Just having fun dpms with some of this stuff. However, I do believe hunting with semi-auto loading rifles is going to darned far.

Just like the security checks, or the use of seatbelts I must abide by laws in the name of safety because, "there might be a incident".

Yes, there has been bad situations develope in the sport of hunting and this, is enough evidence to cause me to ask, why look for problems.

We both know this new law is opening the door for the itchy finger "kill for thrillers".

dpms

BeenThereDoneThat.
We both know this new law is opening the door for the itchy finger "kill for thrillers".

Has it been an issue in the 49 other states where those hunters widely accept semiauto actions as traditional hunting devices?

I'm not concerned with what is happening in any other state and if I were I would move there.

I am however, concerned with what could happen in my little piece of Penn's Woods.

No offense dpms, if you like the way other states permit hunting, you have a choice.

My choice is to prevent such laws from becoming a nuisance and causing problems. Maybe effective in a small parf of the state but I'll do my best to prevent the use of semi-auto loading rifles in my part of PA.

My neighbor has posted 160 acres where these weapons shall not be permitted. I am in the process, along with another neighbor, in meeting with the area farmers, including many Amish land owners. Together we offer to post any and all land and will provide the signs if need be.

This of course is based on the BOC decision this spring.

If anybody else becomes interested, I shall be happy to provide a link to a web sight for bulk orders of signs. Also, the signs can be installed just prior to and taken down after hunting season, if need be. They do not need be visible year round and there is no law regarding how, or where they are posted on the property. You can post them on a stick or fly them from a fence post.

Stay tuned........

Then again why do you need to really hunt deer with a semi rifle. I've killed a few deer in 4 states over 51 years not bragging but it a huge number,of all the deer I've shot 4 required a follow-up shot. Of those 2 where spined and needed a finishing neck shot. The other 2 where double lunged and just stood there and walked 5 feet and I shot them again,both shots where less than 2 inches apart. I'm not sure why they didn't go down but I didn't wait. I'm thinking it was the bullet not expanding right. I'm not against semi autos just don't see the need for them in the deer woods, WV had for years,Ohio,N.Y., Pa SRA permits semi shotguns. Shot deer in Ohio and Allegheny co. with my 11-87 Hastings barrel,all one shot kills. dpms,just curious why your into hunting with one? Because it the second amendment? Because it's fun? Because you've never been allowed? Because you want to rip a deer 4-5 times?  It won't affect me but I will exit a woods if there's a bunch of yeah who's putting on drives totting a bunch of semi's. 

Big Tuna
Then again why do you need to really hunt deer with a semi rifle.

 
I have never advocated on the basis of need. I assume you support many laws and regs that are not "needed" in Pa. As an example, what is the need for the late flintlock season? What is the need for 10 gauges to be legal for squirrels? What is the need for a grouse season? What is the need for lever actions to be legal for deer? What is the need for afternoon gobbler hunting in the spring? What is the need for Monday hunting? 
 

dpms,just curious why your into hunting with one?Because it the second amendment? Because it's fun? Because you've never been allowed? Because you want to rip a deer 4-5 times?  It won't affect me but I will exit a woods if there's a bunch of yeah who's putting on drives totting a bunch of semi's.

 
 
Not sure if I am into hunting with one or not. I have never hunted with one. If these preliminary regulations are approved at the spring meeting, I will probably outfit my personal defense AR for predator hunting and give it a whirl. Big game, not sure if I will or won't. 
 
To answer your questions. I do believe that semiautomatic firearms are legitimate sporting rifles, so yes, this change will strengthen gun rights in Pa. For those that know me, I enjoy hunting with all weapon types since I find them all "fun" and challenging in their own ways. So yes, hunting with another type of firearm will be fun to a certain extent, but not fun because I can shoot a round with every pull of the trigger. It will not be about ripping a deer in half since I strive to make the first shot count with all of my devices. 
 
Basically, for me it boils down to Pennsylvania's hunters having another choice in devices to hunt with. This is not re-inventing the wheel since semiauto actions have been firmly entrenched into the hunting landscape and tradition across this country and even in Pa for many, many years. There is no evidence that safety will be compromised and no evidence the resource will be affected. 
 
As with any change, some will oppose it and some will support it. If it passes, everyone has a choice to take the opportunity or decline it. 
 
 

Don't have a problem with that either. These people want the responsibility and power, they should be held responsibile.

Should it be the fault of a driver for the lack of safety or design, in the name of saving money.

Who needs a semiauto to hunt deer there is enough deer wounded that the people who shot couldn't follow with snow on if it didn't drop that might go look but don't follow far enough to find blood

BeenThereDoneThat.
But let's not go there, on this thread

 
But you did by claiming it should be the PGC's responsibility if a hunter is careless while hunting. It is no different than suggesting the state is at fault if someone is careless while driving and runs somebody else over on the side of the road. 
 

I'm saying those making decisions should be held responsible if that decision creates a situation allowing for injury to others.

The decision was made by the hunter if an errant shot is responsible for injury to someone else. It is not the PGC's responsibility if a person does not follow safe hunting and/or gun handling principles. 

BeenThereDoneThat.
Well alright, so I have my opinion and you have a right to yours so who is, your pick for the Super Bowl?

Hoping for Falcons but picking Pats to win. 

The official release is not out yet, but the PGC pulled the rug out from under the proposed semiauto regulations at today's meeting. Semiauto rifles will be legal for small game, furbearers, and groundhogs. They amended the proposed regulations to exclude all big game. No semis for turkey, deer, bear, and elk.

per ABC27.com
http://abc27.com/2017/03/28/game-commission-wont-allow-semiautomatic-rifles-for-big-game/
 
"The Game Commission said it found no evidence that semiautomatic rifles led to a decline in safety in any state where they’re permitted for hunting, but it received thousands of comments since the law took effect."
 
 
Sounds like PGC actually listened to people who fund the agency
 
 

Comments on the PGC Facebook page are easily 2/3 being very displeased that the PGC reversed course on big game. 

dpms
Comments on the PGC Facebook page are easily 2/3 being very displeased that the PGC reversed course on big game. 

Think it was Bob Frye of the Trib (but not sure) mentioned that a survey conducted or tallies kept of comments on semi's was very heavily skewed towards younger hunters being in favor, and older (maybe 50 or 55+) being opposed.  
 
So it'd make sense that a social media source would be skewed that way.  

rsquared

dpms
Comments on the PGC Facebook page are easily 2/3 being very displeased that the PGC reversed course on big game. 

Think it was Bob Frye of the Trib (but not sure) mentioned that a survey conducted or tallies kept of comments on semi's was very heavily skewed towards younger hunters being in favor, and older (maybe 50 or 55+) being opposed.  
 
So it'd make sense that a social media source would be skewed that way.  

Yep. Wasn't trying to imply that Facebook was representative of all. Just mentioned some post vote comments. The future of hunting is the under 55 crowd though...