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Re: Trump... 2019/10/19 18:51:17 (permalink)
I’m taking Michigan +7 1/2.
(How ‘bout that Trump fella.)
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/19 22:08:41 (permalink)
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I’m taking Michigan +7 1/2.
(How ‘bout that Trump fella.)

Unfortunately the Theil Tomcats are living up to the Coke commercial... I just realized today, that is the actual Theil College in Greenville!
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/19 22:30:20 (permalink)
Irisheyeball
I’m taking Michigan +7 1/2.
(How ‘bout that Trump fella.)



So..... how's the bowling going?🙉

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Re: Trump... 2019/10/20 09:31:17 (permalink)
That was a good bet. Hope you actually made it.

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Re: Trump... 2019/10/20 09:36:51 (permalink)
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That was a good bet. Hope you actually made it.

I did but there wasn’t much more than pride involved.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/20 09:39:56 (permalink)
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Irisheyeball
I’m taking Michigan +7 1/2.
(How ‘bout that Trump fella.)



So..... how's the bowling going?🙉

I haven’t gone bowling in about 15 yrs. I just really like the movie. I play golf, and I fish. Tomorrow it’s time for the latter!
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/20 12:04:24 (permalink)
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Irisheyeball
I’m taking Michigan +7 1/2.
(How ‘bout that Trump fella.)



So..... how's the bowling going?🙉

I haven’t gone bowling in about 15 yrs. I just really like the movie. I play golf, and I fish. Tomorrow it’s time for the latter!


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Well thennnn, good luck with the latter.

Yeterday on my way, to see what I could see, I saw few boats on the water but lots o carts parked about the links.

Heck.... there was most as many golf carts on the course as there are in RV parks.

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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 10:55:06 (permalink)
I’m curious if the Trump supporters here can name some real measurable ways in which their lives have improved because of his policies.

He made a lot of promises about jobs, healthcare, energy industries, etc... and his administration had the opportunity to get a lot done especially during the first two years when republicans controlled both chambers of Congress. What has administration accomplished which has made your life better?

How has his immigration policy actually improved your life?

What about the tax cuts? Is the trade war affecting you positively? Or negatively?

Does his online conduct actually make your life better?

I’d appreciate honest answers. Thanks.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 11:36:37 (permalink)
Show of hands please from anyone who really gives a rats butt about Ukraine.
Dems are milking this cow way past its capacity.
If this is all they got going for them its a sad reality.
Starting to wonder what next really really bad impeachable Trump atrocity  they will try and lock onto.
 
In regard to the last- I feel better about America with this guy in charge than any two of those socialistic/communist jerks the Dems dug up.
Not one of them is capable of running anything but their mouths fulla free stuff as they have no real issues whatsoever to offer.
Trump 2020 ( and beyond lol)
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 11:57:31 (permalink)
All I know is, I work in the Strip District and Trump will be in town on Wed. talking at the shale gas conference at the convention center and I will be working from home that day!  
I am sure it will be a circus down here with traffic, road closures, protesters and supporters....  
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 12:35:36 (permalink)
 
Honestly... I'm curious why you would even have to ask such questions?

But let me think about it for a minute......
 
Hmmm, You say; Trumps administration had the opportunity to get a lot done.... republicans controlled congress???  You mean, the very same republicans who have been seated for how many years before Trump was elected and allowing our country to be flushed down the toilet... those republicans?
 
 
As for jobs, healthcare, taxes, I'd have to say those subjects all play a part in my feelings towards the new immigration laws, least not forget, better control of drugs smuggled into our country and let's not forget those bad guys who wish to do harm to American citizens.   You understand the old saying "if it saves "one" life then it's worth it"?  How many lives might you think will be saved by stopping just "one" terroist?
 
But let's not stop there on immigration because I think it important to mention the immigration laws deal with "ILLEGAL ENTRY" the last I knew.
 
 
As for being affected by the trade wars I'd would definitely say yes I have been affected.  It is the best feeling I have had in many years.  Makes me happy happy to see America no longer being ripped off, by countries such as China.  In addition, I rather much see a conflict fought over trade than over bodies.
 
Speaking of war, has it ever dawned on you, for the past  sixty years the only way used  to control  a recession was  getting involved (and staying) in some sort of conflict (a/k/a;war) in another country?   The very results, of the seated 'congress controlling' republicans, you mention when Trump took office. 
 
Yep Trump's trade wars is a terrible thing especially when, America gets results in months and not decades aaaaaand without firing a shot.
 
While we're on these once upon a time, 'congress controlling republicans', I'm enjoying the smell of dirty diapers now wafting from their chambers.  These politicians  are so politically correct (and scared of their positions) they don't know when to kiss the asz of which special interest group first. 
 
Well seeing the "censure" being imposed on Adam Schiff tells me these mealy mouthed powerful republicans have finally learned Trump has his own "special interest group" known as We The People Of These United States of America. 
 
So yeah, I'm happy happy with "America Being Great Again".....  Thanks for asking.
 
 
P.S  Did I mention                       TRUMP/PENCE 2020
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 12:57:15 (permalink)
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All I know is, I work in the Strip District and Trump will be in town on Wed. talking at the shale gas conference at the convention center and I will be working from home that day!  
I am sure it will be a circus down here with traffic, road closures, protesters and supporters....  




 
Eyes in my journeys of driving a commercial vehicle I would have the pleasure of being in the wrong place at the right time...…. tooo many times.
 
Honestly if you can get out to see the event..... DON'T DO IT!!!!  No seriously, it's a sight to see if in fact you can even get near the route(s) the President is traveling.
 
Of course sitting high in the seat of a 'big truck'   had it's advantages  but didn't always make it easier, for me to see the miles of traffic backed up, on the beltways and byways.
 
Definitely brought true meaning to "ya shoulda been here yesterday".
 
 
When opportunity knocks.... go for it.

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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 13:25:00 (permalink)
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I’m curious if the Trump supporters here can name some real measurable ways in which their lives have improved because of his policies.

He made a lot of promises about jobs, healthcare, energy industries, etc... and his administration had the opportunity to get a lot done especially during the first two years when republicans controlled both chambers of Congress. What has administration accomplished which has made your life better?

How has his immigration policy actually improved your life?

What about the tax cuts? Is the trade war affecting you positively? Or negatively?

Does his online conduct actually make your life better?

I’d appreciate honest answers. Thanks.

MyWar are u kidding me????? U on another planet???? The tax cuts did benefit me to tune of 700 bucks or so That's better than the government having it to waste on say social security for illegal aliens. Jobs u say you cant go anywhere without seeing Help Wanted signs or adds for help everywhere regardless of the industry.The trade war you asked The us not being taken advantage of as they were from the previous administrations Finally I say believe me china is suffering!!!! Energy sir we export energy now havn't you read a paper or watched any news lately Oh u probably watched fake news open eyes look around were so much better off.If you think the clowns that are running are gona be better your kidding yourself. anf finally as for his personal conduct I could care less he wasn't voted on for his conduct he was elected to MAGA otherwise if we wanted conduct we would vote for Maybe the pope or Mother Theresa!!!
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 13:58:21 (permalink)
I’m looking for real objective examples here. If you say “I have $700 more dollars because of a tax cut” then that is an objective example. So far that is the only one.

But I’m not sure any of the other things that have been mentioned are “objective”. A claim like “trump makes the US more secure” is highly subjective (and in fact there are some compelling arguments that the opposite is true).

Do you have a job now because of a Trump administration policy?

Is the current state of the economy benefiting the field where you work?

Have your healthcare costs decreased or do you have access to better care?

I’m looking for specifics.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 14:12:31 (permalink)
Nut even the pope would get piszed if he was treated with such disrepect as has been Trump, three years in the running

Butt I agree, it was Trump's tone that set the stage. Kinda like wearing a sign around his neck sayin "kome getcha sum".

Unlike other administrations, Trump drew only one line in the sand.

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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 14:47:00 (permalink)
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Nut even the pope would get piszed if he was treated with such disrepect as has been Trump, three years in the running

Butt I agree, it was Trump's tone that set the stage. Kinda like wearing a sign around his neck sayin "kome getcha sum".

Unlike other administrations, Trump drew only one line in the sand.

Ya reap what ya sow I suppose...
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 14:56:22 (permalink)
Mywar are you in denial or withdrawal?

Your "subjective" vs "objective" remarks wreak of self assured intellectual superiority and dude you ain't the first to play that game on this, or any other forum.

BTW your comment "(and in fact there are some compelling arguments that the opposite is true)". is highly subjective.

Here's the deal, we not so highly intellectual common folk on this board, have over the years learned to "read the writing on the wall" and "see the forest through the trees" and we know reality when it happens.

Unlike the highly intellectual who need be indoctrinated with the way they see and think.

However, should I be mistaken, I shall be most willing to apologize for basing my opinion, upon the condesending way you present "objective" and "subjective"

One question if I might; would my opinion be looked upon as "objective", "subjective" or just "observative"?

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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 15:08:38 (permalink)
LDD
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Nut even the pope would get piszed if he was treated with such disrepect as has been Trump, three years in the running

Butt I agree, it was Trump's tone that set the stage. Kinda like wearing a sign around his neck sayin "kome getcha sum".

Unlike other administrations, Trump drew only one line in the sand.

Ya reap what ya sow I suppose...


You know it L"D"D... Trump gonna go down in history as the greatest president that ever was.

Couldn't be controlled by the left wing anti-America press corp and the one who "Drained The Swamp".... amirite?

Now about that "L"ong"D"istance"D"elivery. Just doesn't seem to fit.

You mentioned working & puters in the same sentenace once, so I thought maybe Ldd_(unix) but that would be "Ldd" and not "LDD", now wouldn't it?

Welp back to the drawing board, as they say.

Have good one.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 15:19:27 (permalink)
An opinion by definition is subjective. I’m not looking for subjective opinions. I’m looking for examples of real, tangible ways that Trump has made your lives better.

What is he doing for you that actually makes your life better? That gives you a better wage? That lowers your healthcare costs? That gives you opportunities you didn’t have before?
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 15:23:13 (permalink)
MyWar
Is the current state of the economy benefiting the field where you work?

As a government contractor, we have been swamped with orders this year (which has been cutting into my fishing time).  It really doesn't matter the President though.  They all do it, some fund different agencies more than others.  We just follow where the money is.  They all need the products and services we sell.  If one agency is shut off for 8 years, most likely they will be getting pumped with funding after.  It is all cyclical.
 
If he'd put down the Twitter, golf clubs and stop inviting other countries to meddle in the elections, he wouldn't be the worst President in history...  My life is just fine with him in or out.  
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 15:51:28 (permalink)
Not to change the subject but--
Whistleblower laws were made to protect the person WHO COMES FOREWARD from on the job -or any other- harassment or being fired by virtue of their coming out with info about their place of employ.
Case in point those folks who came forward who worked at Vets Hospitals.
 
The 'whistleblower' in the Trump idiocy being investigated by Schiff is NOT a whistleblower. They play that to gain sympathy or even some distorted way of making him sound trustworthy.
 
This person is in fact an anonymous informant whose only info is NOT from personal knowledge. Anyone here can  do the same thing with stuff ya read on these Forums -- heresay -stuff others said that you actually have no knowledge of whatsoever.
 
As a past detective in LE for over 28 years I could NEVER have used heresay info in any way shape or form in a criminal case. Woulda been laughed outa court.
All those lawyers in Congress and their Press minions cant figure out that basic thing--Hmmmmm- sounds like an agenda at work.
 
Schumer takes it to a new low level complaining Trump might 'expose' the whistleblower creating a dangerous situation -HE OR SHE IS NOT A WHISLTBLOWER BY VIRTUE OF THAT ANNONYOUS STANDING and Schumer knows it and makes it more nefarious by implicating Trump may cause 'danger' to the idiot.
 
These people are a danger to the country by virtue of their tactics and clear low opinion of John Q's ability to 'get it' IMHO.
 
Sorry for the Shouting.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 16:51:41 (permalink)
Everything in the whistleblower report has been corroborated by the White House at this point. Why attack the credibility of the whistleblower? Trump and his people have admitted it’s all true.

Furthermore, an impeachment is not the same as a criminal trial, so whatever standards of evidence you may be familiar with may not necessarily apply here. Congress makes the rules for impeachment, not the judiciary.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 16:56:44 (permalink)
As a detective, how many times did you get to see a suspect dictate the terms of the investigation into their conduct? Because that is exactly what Trump is trying to do.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 17:09:23 (permalink)
MyWar
As a detective, how many times did you get to see a suspect dictate the terms of the investigation into their conduct? Because that is exactly what Trump is trying to do.


Subjective....... at it's finest. Right? Or should I say "correct" or is that incorrect and right is wrong?
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 17:22:43 (permalink)
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As a detective, how many times did you get to see a suspect dictate the terms of the investigation into their conduct? Because that is exactly what Trump is trying to do.


Actually, no.

Whistleblower is a legal term that protects the identity and purges any possible wrongdoing in the effort to do the greater good. At least that is it in laymen terms. There are other very strict qualifications for a person to be considered a legal whistleblower.

The so called whistleblower #1 does not meet the legal definitions of the term because they had no direct knowledge of the even, only secondhand information. That is an immediate disqualification as a whistleblower. So they are not protected for their leaking what turned out to be classified information and could be prosecuted for it.

Whistleblower #2 also does not qualify for protection under whistleblower laws because they did not follow protocol by going first to their internal superior or internal ombudsman, but rather revealed classified information to someone that didn’t have the proper clearance or role to hear it. They could also be prosecuted for their actions.

But, like the msm, don’t let the laws or the facts get in the way of a good story.

The poster formally known as Duncsdad

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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 17:28:40 (permalink)
Well, here we go with a special EMitch oratory. This country showed improvement not just with the Trumpman's election, it actually started as soon as he won the nomination. The 'Crats like to say it was all Obama policies that started the revival, but we know that's a crock! Just on the nomination alone, the economy began the rebound that jump started a host of MAGA improvements. American confidence was up, and consumer confidence is unparalled. The tax cuts that were pushed through have absolutely bolstered the economy, and American companies that were sheltering their money in foreign banks have brought much of it home to America. Manufacturing has come back to the US under Trump, and there's more to come. 3 million + jobs have been created; in fact, there's so many jobs right now that employers are scrambling to find employees. The housing industry is doing great 'cause more folks have jobs. Where we had 15 million Americans on food stamps under Obama, there's 7 million less on food stamps now because those recipients now are productive workers. Wages have gone up and are going up because employers are willing to pay more to get good employees and keep them, plus the fact that companies are more productive and selling more product and services because other companies are doing well and need them. Healthcare, you say. Yeah, a bit of a bummer but too many in Congress are only interested in impeachment, and not doing what they were elected to do. On the other hand, they did get rid of the individual mandate, which was a fine on younger Americans for not having insurance. (They're mostly young and healthy and don't need insurance). Infrastructure; same deal. That's something that Trump would sign in a heartbeat, and infrastructure alone could account for a million or more jobs. Energy. Do you know that the US now has so much oil and natural gas that we are now a net exporter? All of the crap regulations and red tape cut, (much of it cut by executive order), makes corporations and individuals freer to improve the economy and their individual lives. I know I got my first raise since 2011 in the first year of Trump's presidency. Trump forced our NATO allies to come up with their fair share of the expenses, instead of stickin' it to the US to foot the bill. Under the 'Crats, the US was happy to pay for Europe's defense and feelin' bad about doin' it! Another biggie? Not just one, but two US Supreme Court Justices, both conservative constitutionalists. When a lame duck President leaves office, he has usually filled nearly all of the vacancies for the Federal Courts and the Courts of Appeal, and leaves most likely a half dozen or so. Trump and the Republican Senate have now confirmed 156 conservative judgeships througout the US. And that's just another reason that the 'Crats hate him, 'cause whenever they can't get their way through legitimate legislation, they run off to the activist courts to get it done. There's more but I'm not a typist, but I'll be happy to orate again if you're not the least bit convinced. BOOM!!

Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 17:41:26 (permalink)
Very well written EMitch you hit about all the the very things MyWar was asking about but im sure in his infinite wisdom will dispute them all.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 17:43:19 (permalink)
My question was: why bother to discredit the whistleblower? Everything in the whistle blower report about the Ukrainian misconduct has been corroborated. I didn’t say anything about whistleblower protection.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 17:54:18 (permalink)
I could hear any number of pundits on Fox News or conservative talk radio recite those same talking points as posted by EMitch. People like Sebastian Gorka and Mike Gallagher go through the same spiel every day.

I’m not interested in that.

I’m interested in tangible, identifiable ways in which Trump and/or his policies have actually made your lives better.
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Re: Trump... 2019/10/21 19:25:16 (permalink)
I dread the thought of the outcome should those Socialists ever actually try and take T from the White House.
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