Westwood gerry ;)

Size 18 midges vs. Size 10 glo bugs??? That's apples vs. Oranges to me... But I guess its a Westwood thing :)

When on the Erie tribs I sometimes use #16 nympths/#14 glo bugs when there are low and clear conditions.I have used #14 on the SR and my go to hook for Glo Bugs is a #12 Mustad Egg Hook.I find early in the season my flash back nympth,PT,and the Prince does well on size#10.
As I always say it's the jntent of the angler not the type of fly that determines ethical fishing,if you're a lifter/liner you could use almost any fly.Ask Chartist,he'll tell you!

  Any pattern that is used to actually match something fish are feeding on is ethical . That's my opinion, anyway. Glo bugs fit ,so do nymph and pupae patterns. Fishing midges in the winter with a ton of weight and small tippet in order  to line podded up fish isn't, at least to me. I didn't intend to drag this thread about Oneida into a one up contest . Drake's back on SC if you want to do that again.

I guess I should go fishing to get this thread back on track, maybe next weekend.

I'm pretty sure that was a 1/0 hook I pulled out of that salmons mouth we caught yesterday . I will have to look at them next time I get to the boat :) lol

No worries Andy it's all about the estaz anyway

3.50 for an estaz fly??? Wow a hole lot of suckers out there. In defense of estsz I've caught 100's of fish on them since the early 90's... It seemed to stop working as well as it got popular but steelhead returns also dropped drastically in the late 90's... Even the lakers would hit estaz often when they were in the river... Blue with a read or pink z-lon, hi-vis, crystal flash or even glo bug yarn pulled over its back was hot for steelhead. White estaz with an orange thread wrapped underlying body was killer... Always took browns ...

Went to Ithaca for the weekend, watched the baby rainbows tearing up the drop pool at Enfield Falls, bodes well for future runs out of Cayuga. Saw college roommates that I had not seen in near 40 years, talk about feeling young again! 
 
Legitimate flies are those being used as imitations of some food stuffs, as opposed to being legal camoflage for a snagging hook.  So a 16 caddis in one set of hands is a legitimate fly and in another is no different than a cricket.   If a fisher has a flybox containing nothing but 1/0 fuzzies, I would say "snagger"; no fly works 100% of the time, not even wader boy's, I mean 2 bob's, "stuff on shank" series.  Like wise you could be carrying the entire fly selection at the local store and if you put on a cannonball and start yanking, appropriate conclusions may be drawn.  It's not so much the fly selected as the method with which it is fished. 
 
Psst, please keep this quiet so it does not get out, but those glo bug thingies work really good in a left field color that is sort of a cross between yellow and green, chartroose I think it is called, but you don't want this one out on, lets say, Salmon Crazies.  Since there's only about 6 of us here, I'm not too worried, but....
 
And Fichy, I think the inability to see the tongue in cheek is a mark of a good person, valuing what the other says and giving it credence without judgement, and it is almost the shame for the perpetrator of the guise, but to paraphrase Chesterton, nearly everyone laughs when a man slips on a banana peel.  I can tell that sharing water with you would be that, sharing, and I'm hoping to get the chance after my last day in the workforce (until Christmas shopping time, when I will probably be helping fat ladies try to fit into skinny dresses)  9/25!
 
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Only? I was very specific about mid-winter flossing, not a glittering generalization, so don't accuse me of being ridiculous, then call me a good guy.  Oh shiz, I missed the sarcasm again!  Same back at you, Dime. Now back to twiddling my thumbs waiting for a floor finish to dry .

Excuzzzzeeee me---I thought this was the "world famous" Sr smallmouth fishery.

Have fun on the coast fichy. Yeah I'm pretty sure the Lunkers went with the 6500 cfs on top of 1000-3000 average for over a month... Bummer!!! Some friends of mine fished a few miles of bank a week ago and caught nothing over 2 pounds

Fly snob that I am, I've got a pretty long life list of species that I've got on a fly. Goby ain't on it, so I might have to target them. From what I've read of them, they are some good bait. Have you gone to CP, Clint? Or is your float rod just a long spinner?  If you did go to CP, you gotta let me try it.

One of my biggest catches yesterday

Started at Godfrey, like Friday I go with a couple of older fellas so 1000 is as early as I can get out. Like RJ says its about the company not the fishing. Went o shakleton  and around. Got real windy and was a real tough go coming back we drifted slot of it with poor mans downriggers. Ended up with 4 nice perch and a sunny. No eyes though. 

Well there were whitecaps and swells taller then the boat a few times, but we braved it. We each caught a small pickerel and a few perch and a whit perch.  I caught a 15 inch eye that was returned for another day. It was not my day though, I lost 2 very nice pickerel and a very nice eye,  they were close enough to see. We entered no fin in the tourney. We checked before we left and the best eye was 20 inches at 2.5# and there were no limits (4) of pickerel.  A handful of 3 .  First place was a bit over 4.5# for 3 fish when we left.  Normally 3 to 4 pickerel a guy is not a problem, but today was a bad day.......