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RECORD-BOOK BUCK TO BE SCORED DEC. 16 IN HARRISBURG

 
By now, you might have heard about an Allegheny County buck taken two months ago during the statewide archery season; a buck so large it might be a new Pennsylvania state record.
Will it measure up as the No. 1 buck on record?
That remains to be seen, but viewers everywhere can watch live online as the buck is measured and its official score recorded.
Allegheny County hunter Jeff Lenzi, who harvested the massive 10-point buck Oct. 10, is scheduled to bring the rack to the Pennsylvania Game Commission’s headquarters on Tuesday, Dec. 16, to have it officially scored.
And the 9 a.m. scoring session will be streamed live on the Game Commission’s website, www.pgc.state.pa.us.
Most big-game animals can be measured officially to see where they rank all-time. Pennsylvania launched its Big Game Records Program in 1965, and today, records are kept of all official measurements recorded for white-tailed deer, black bears and elk that meet minimum qualifications for entry into Pennsylvania’s records book.
Records are split into a number of categories, based on things such as the configuration of a deer’s or elk’s rack, and whether the animal was taken with a firearm or archery gear. A successful hunter must take his or her trophy to an official scorer.  
It appears likely that Lenzi’s buck will be scored in the typical category, meaning its rack does not have many abnormal points. While Lenzi’s buck was an archery harvest, but he has said unofficial measurements taken on the rack might make it bigger than any of the typical record-book bucks in the firearms category, as well.
It could be the top typical deer of all time in Pennsylvania.
To date, the top buck in the typical firearms category was taken way back in 1943 in Bradford County by Fritz Janowsky, of Wellsburg, N.Y. That buck scores 189 inches, based on the Boone & Crockett Club measuring system.
The top typical buck in the archery category also is a product of Allegheny County. It was taken in 2004 by Michael Nicola Sr., of Waterford, and its official score is 178 2/8 inches.
Minimum qualification for the Pennsylvania Big Game Records book is 140 inches for typical bucks taken with firearms, and 115 inches for typical bucks taken with archery equipment.
Official measurements on any deer cannot be taken before the conclusion of a 60-day drying period to allow moisture to evaporate from the antlers and the rack to reach its final size.  
Lenzi’s buck will be scored by Bob D’Angelo, who coordinates Pennsylvania’s Big Game Records Program.
D’Angelo, who said he’d been hearing about the buck long before scheduling the scoring session with Lenzi, said he’s excited to score the rack. The potential new No. 1 has been drawing a lot of interest, too, D’Angelo said.
“We are getting plenty of calls from hunters who have heard about the trophy buck, or have seen photos of it,” D’Angelo said. “It does not surprise me a buck of this caliber was taken in Allegheny County. Allegheny County has the second most entries in the Pennsylvania Big Game Records book, behind only Bradford County.
“This trophy also could meet the minimum score for inclusion in the Boone & Crockett Club’s records book, which is very difficult to do, and a testament to the trophy deer potential we have in the Keystone State,” D’Angelo said.
Pennsylvania entries scored now through the end of July 2015 will be added to the 2015 edition of the Pennsylvania Big Game Records book, if they meet minimum qualifications. The 2014 edition was published in October and can be purchased for $6, plus shipping and handling, through The Outdoor Shop at the Game Commission’s website. Pennsylvania residents must pay sales tax on all purchases.
 
Big-game scoring session scheduled
Successful hunters who are looking to have their trophies officially scored can do so at a public, big-game scoring session to be held on Feb. 14, 2015, from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., at the Pennsylvania Game Commission’s headquarters in Harrisburg.
Deer, bear and elk that have been harvested in Pennsylvania are eligible for entry into the Pennsylvania Big Game Records book.
Deer and elk racks cannot be measured until after a 60-day drying period from when the skull plate was removed from the animal. For bears, the 60-day drying period begins after the skull is thoroughly cleaned by boiling or from the use of beetles.
Deer racks to be scored should have at least eight measurable points, and hunters need to register by Feb. 9, 2015. To register, call Patty Monk at 717-787-4250, ext. 3312. For more information on the session, contact Bob D’Angelo at 717-787-4250, ext. 3311.
All are welcome to attend.
The Game Commission’s headquarters is located at 2001 Elmerton Ave. in Harrisburg, just off the Progress Avenue exit of Interstate 81.
 

 

Here's a Mcnasty from Spartansburg.
Archery kill non-typical.. Scored 204...
Not my deer, but I did get him on game camera and hunted him for 3 days before he got shot...

190"-class deer is called scrawny...I've read it all.

You know, I was thinking the same thing; he should have let him go another year.  Silly hunter, shooting dinks...
 
What ever happened to the pics of the Clairton buck?  It was pretty close in size to Lenzi's, at least from the bad pic I saw of it.  Maybe it wasn't really from here?
 
Big Wags, if you need any help "scouting," let me know...I can swing by after work next year, with my bow and climber!
 
Maybe I need to hit my spots in the SE of 2B more than the NE part I have been hitting.
 
I do drive by 30-50 deer almost every night out in cut bean fields, even during rifle, but its posted up tight (and not Round Hill).  Serious doe reduction is sorely needed.  I will be asking in the spring but won't have high hopes.

A lot of those posted properties are that way because of what the state did to the deer herd so I don't see them being able to get them opened up. Many landowners either lease their land to folks who manage them for maximum sustained yield (like the PGC used to) or do it themselves.
 
Interesting that the state try's to destroy the deer herd and then takes credit for the deer taken by folks who said scr-w the PGC and started to manage the herd on private land themselves.

Eyes and gills COME ON DOWN......
 
Open property abounds here in Forward Township.....Ask the amish...JK
There was a group of 10, from Butler 2 years ago, and they kept trespassing and got caught.
They brought an ex-large passenger van and a flat trailer--- had 12 or 15 doe on it.
Our local magistrate laughed at their lawyer told him and them pay at the window and to get out and don't come back!!
ConSol property has over 900 acres.  BUT you better have some strong legs to hunt it....
Triple B farm above Bunola ALWAYS asking for hunters to come in and hunt deer(not sure of their acreage but a guess 150 or more).
Wish we could hunt in the landfill....there's one in there bigger than Lenzi's, and yes I have seen it.
 
All I can say is this year is and has been very odd when it comes to wildlife.
My camera only had 24 pictures for the week. 4 days straight with nothing????not even a raccoon...
 
Hunted 2c first day. Owner of the farm said in archery season one evening she stopped counting at 42. Several small racks and only
one nice 8 point. I saw 15 first day...all bald.
My brother hit Forbes above Elliotsville Monday. He's gotta doe tag. Saw 2 spikes. left 10 am
He came back and went into Floreffe walked in within 15 minutes had an 8 point walk right up to him.....I guess asking to die....he did. 
 
Soon as I find it I have a picture of a road kill from a few years ago that sparked a major rack hunt by PSGC. I had been seeing this guy
for 2 years and couldn't get even within 100 yards
 
They are here but hiding in nooks and crannies.........
 
 

This sort of thing happens all the time, so I'm not surprised.  I go to a scoring event every February and I can't tell you how many guys come in with a 100% certainty that they have a P&Y buck only to leave with a scoresheet showing 110-115".  I'm no expert at scoring but it's really not that difficult to score a typical buck and come up with a reasonably accurate score.  I can't really figure out why so many people are that far off when they do their own scoring.
 
Either way, it is still a 175" gross buck, which is a true giant in just about anyone's eyes. 

Esox_Hunter
This sort of thing happens all the time, so I'm not surprised.  I go to a scoring event every February and I can't tell you how many guys come in with a 100% certainty that they have a P&Y buck only to leave with a scoresheet showing 110-115".  I'm no expert at scoring but it's really not that difficult to score a typical buck and come up with a reasonably accurate score.  I can't really figure out why so many people are that far off when they do their own scoring. Either way, it is still a 175" gross buck, which is a true giant in just about anyone's eyes. 

Because Gary said they would all be record book bucks. Gary is a biologist and knows everything about whitetail deer. Just ask him.


Sorry............ (lol)

Always figured more trophy bucks go home to hang in a garage or be chewed up by mice than get scored.
Most guys don't really care about  what everyone else thinks as their hunting is a very personal thing.
Like Wayne they may only show up for an official opinion with one that they think  is VERY special and ought to be shared...
 

 
killed in Snyder county last day of rifle. By Chad Hostetier

Most huge bucks die of old age...WF.....most of the ones I knew of did. They get old and become lazy.

GREAT Deer !!!!!!

r3g3
Always figured more trophy bucks go home to hang in a garage or be chewed up by mice than get scored.
Most guys don't really care about  what everyone else thinks as their hunting is a very personal thing.

Awhile back in another thread on deer hunting (maybe in the archery forum) was talking about a buddy who has a wall full of P&Y Class bucks from the Pittsburgh suburbs.  
 
Was over there last week, and was asking about them.  5 of the 8 he has mounted are not just P&Y class, they are P&Y.  
 
But, guess how many he's entered?  
 
One.  The first one he shot about 18 years ago.  
 
'zactly what you said r3g3, he doesn't really care what others think.  

Mika what/where was that last one from.
 
 

It's hard to get PY buck in PA.