Whats going on at Pa Game Commission?

Sure is a lot of 'happenings' at pgc recently.  First of course there was the highly publicized accusations against the bureau of land director Capoullez about double dipping etc. and the governor stepped in and took actions...    Then there was the big debacle with the dismissal and subsequent attempted "pay-off" of ex executive director Roe.   Now,  I hear that the Director of information and education...Neville... was fired a few months back.   I found this interesting as Mr. Neville regularly fed information to certain posters on multiple message boards during the ever ongoing "deer debates".   I have heard some juicy, but believable rumors about why he was fired, which was basically some speculation based on facts but nothing substantiated.   I have also not seen anything made public.    Anyone know anything about this??

Heard nuttin eh?   Well as I understand he definitely didn't leave on his own accord. lol and you don't get told to hit the road just because you were friends with a co-worker.   Lots of others at the agency got along with Carl very well, some even one directly under him were even promoted!   But yeah, I think they both got wrapped up in a lot that they shouldn't of.   At the very least, if he was fired for the reasons I have heard, and believe he was, then it is nice to see that at least some at pgc are making the right decisions once in awhile.   **** shame none of this is ever made public.   Though it would be another hit to pgc credibility over some of what was going on and I guess they definitely don't need more of that these days.

Maybe ?

Wayne,
The internet is where all the rumors start, right? What ya waiting for man. On a fishing expedition? 

Roe suing for $220,000....

35,000 additional doe tags will be enough for the payoff. The PGC I have no respect for anymore their all corrupt.Money hungry and gready.I can't wait till next year's license sales.I bet they sell less than 650,000.You what that means licenses go up 10 bucks.

Might that not be "where's the venison?"

wayne c
Carl Roe, Jerry Feaser, Calvin Dubrock, Joe Neville.........  Commissioner Martone

'puter got a virus (flue season don't cha know) can't access the PGC web sight yet and no mobile sight for my phone.

My devious little mind needs more to feed on ............. Martone???????

I don't know what will happen with the 'my' deal, but if you think that the governor took the time and effort to get rid of the guy just so he could help make the age limit 9, you've been listening to the wrong idiots. lol.  Understandable though, as  I see there are a couple that are going around to every board they can find, using multiple****on each board, and screaming its a big conspiracy against MY. lmao.    Unreal.    As if there aren't much bigger issues than that. lol.    Ignore the environmentalist clowns who have had their feelings hurt because their 'man' was removed from the board.
 
And besides, we could use a mentored youth age anyway.  Shouldve only been common sense since day one.   This proposing I think it was 9 years?    More than reasonable.    3 and 5 year olds have about as much business pulling a trigger on a deer as they do sitting at the local bar and smoking a cigar.

Typical spring turkey guns----3" 12 gauge, 3-1/2" 12 gauge, 3-1/2" 10 gauge. Weight loaded =  8-12lbs. Typical deer rifles----243, 270, 308, 30-06. avg weight 8-10 lbs. They all bounce an adult when they have been fired.  Perhaps Wayne is just being realistic.  If you are not able to pick one up and hold it steady perhaps you are too young.

One Pennsylvania Game Commissioner's career has come to an abrupt end. 



Ralph Martone of New Castle was relieved of his position on the agency board Thursday morning by Gov. Tom Corbett. 

Corbett spokesman Jay Pagni said that decision was made simultaneously with the Governor's nomination of Jim Daley of Butler to represent District 1 on the commission. 

District 1 includes Butler, Clarion, Crawford, Erie, Forest, Lawrence, Mercer, Venango and Warren counties. 

“Upon that nomination, Mr. Martone was thanked for his service,” Pagni said. 

Martone suspects things aren't that simple, however. 



Commissioners serve eight-year, unpaid terms. They're typically allowed to serve six months beyond that, or until a successor is named. Martone's term officially ended in mid-October. 



Martone's being let go early, with what he called no prior warning, makes him the exception. 



He said he asked if he could attend the board's next meeting, set for Jan. 25-27, because there are several controversial items on the agenda. One calls for limiting the state's mentored youth hunting program; another for creating a user permit required of hikers, mountain bikers, snowmobilers and horseback riders using state game lands. 

Martone has opposed both proposals, and said he suspects that might be behind his dismissal. 

“There was some intention here. I can't tell you more than that. But it's very suspicious,” Martone said. “As you know, this is not the norm.” 

Martone's absence will leave the eight-member board one member short for at least its January meeting, if not longer. 

Daley — a longtime volunteer hunter education instructor and director of environmental services for Novel Geo-Environmental, an engineering consulting firm involved in the gas industry — must be approved by the state Senate after going through a waiting period. 

It will be at least “a few weeks” before he might be confirmed to the Game Commission board, Pagni said. 




http://triblive.com/sports/outdoors/7573816-74/martone-board-game#axzz3OwucjgBI

Nice to see you join the anti-hunting fold Wayne.  At least your are out in the open now
 
Yeah. lmao.   that's me.   Frankly, hunter youth age or no age is far from the biggest concerns out there, but yeah, if I am to give an opinion, we should have a rational age limit, just like most other states.
 
Don't worry bro, plenty of guys like me out here that have hunters backs.
 
Even the naïve/uneductated ones, whether they know whats going on or not..

wayne c
Dpms, a governor is free to remove a commissioner any time he feels like it for any reason he deems fit.  The only thing "wrong" would be in the eyes of those that feel they would've liked to have had him vote on particular issues.   Frankly he voted at way too many meetings as it is for my liking.

As I said, it is unprecedented as removal has always been for one of the four reasons I mentioned. Never because someone was nominated for a seat.  
 
After this fellow served the sportsman of this state as he did. Whether one agrees with his ideas or not, pretty crappy way to go about it. Especially just 10 days before a meeting. Why not wait till Daley is confirmed and let the BOC  vote the issues with the full 8 commissioners? Unless you would've liked to not have him vote on particular issues.
 
Especially when Jay Pagani said the nomination of Delay was simultaneous with Martones removal when Daley has been on the senate calendar for 2 months. 
 
Has Delaney voted to many times for ya? How about that old attorney that used to be a commissioner? Martones stint was abbreviated since he took Hill seat when he resigned. 

S-10
The problem now will be with the new Governor and his picks.

Be interesting to see who he puts up there for sure. 
 
Jay Delaney, a current commissioner whose term is coming to an end, is supposedly on Wolf's transition team already and is working the field for a position in the administration.