DarDys
So, by some of this thinking, if PGC stocked pheasants wonder onto posted property, I should be able to hunt them because I bought a hunting license, part of which went to purchase them.
 
Sounds pretty silly when one simply swaps the word steelhead for pheasant, doesn't it?
 
Posted is posted.

That isn't the argument that I am seeing from most of the posters here.  It seems like the majority here respect the landowner's choice to do as he pleases with his land.  I think the issue for many, including myself, is the exploitation of a resource funded by public license holders for the monetary benefit of a few individuals.  I'm not contesting the legality of the situation, I just don't agree with it and refuse to support any of the players behind it.   

alttile different in that birds can go where they want, but fish kind of have to stay in the water
i think it would be fair that those entities who want to benefit $$$ from the state supplied product should have to pay atleast 50% of their gains to the state for supplying those products (fish, birds, whatever)
 
but just as up in NY i refuse to pay to play on their turf so i find public spots to do my fishing

Just as a side note I don't care if you raised the pheasant from a chick as soon as it hits PA soil it belongs to PA.

and once the process starts, it just progresses
no areas ever open back up, there are just more closed

D-nymph

Loomis
I could honestly give a crap less.  If there's 100 yards of water with fish in it ill fish it.  What I don't understand is with so much open water to fish, who cares? The fish go below and above the posted areas of Elk Creek, fish for them there.  You aren't going to do a thing by posting on a forum about it, go stand outside trout run bait and tackle if you have that much of a problem with it.  I for one could give a crap less.

So you've said, a few times.  You care so little you keep reading & posting, telling everyone to shut up.  Don't act like a dumass, you're too smart for that.
 
Here's the thing about new postings, in general, for me... why I care... and really I don't care that much either.  It's not any one spot, THAT doesn't bother me in the least.  This one cuts off from Uncle John's area to the Easements south.  You used to be able to walk right though.  Or, park a car at one end & walk your way down a long stretch.  With each posting, more walk through areas are lost so the "go out and walk" people can't do so as much any more.  All it will take is a couple more of these, in the wrong spots, landlocking long open stretches of stream that can't be fished because you can't get to them. 

I guess ill have to get a helicopter licence and start dropping people off in these landlocked sections, it will be like they are fishing the wild outback in Alaska.  Then I can profit without taking away any land, but instead increasing access to fish....
 

 
 

I could honestly give a crap less.  If there's 100 yards of water with fish in it ill fish it.  What I don't understand is with so much open water to fish, who cares? The fish go below and above the posted areas of Elk Creek, fish for them there


That's the point. If this trend continues, that's all you and 10,000 other fishermen will have...100 yards of combat fishing.

I think I fished this particular section one time. It's posting will not directly impact my erie steelhead experience. It will however have an indirect impact as other landowners follow suit and other fishermen begin to crowd the areas I do fish. This will most likely take years, but there is nothing to suggest that it won't happen.

Luckily for me, I'll fish all winter and there are far fewer anglers in the streams in December and January.

Loomis
Honestly is it even worth it to cry about this?  There are tons of open sections of Elk and other streams to fish.  Why don't you just be happy with what you have? The tubes to route 5 aren't going to help you catch more if you can't catch them to begin with, why even get upset about it?  If I had a section of a stream, i'd post it too, and nobody would fish it.  I'd fish w all the rest of the jagaloons like I always have, and like Art who owns the manchester hole does...pretty much never see him not catching fish.  Point is, where there's fish to fish for, one has a chance at catching them.  So go do it and shut up.

A 7 page thread so far and this is one of only posts that even makes sense and is worth reading.

lost sage rod sectio
This forum and the people who write on it are proof cowboys had sex with sheep!!!!!!!

 
 
Those of us that don't have sheep for mothers will recognize the irony
 
 
..L.T.A.

is this horse dead yet?
 

Esox_Hunter

DarDys
So, by some of this thinking, if PGC stocked pheasants wonder onto posted property, I should be able to hunt them because I bought a hunting license, part of which went to purchase them.
 
Sounds pretty silly when one simply swaps the word steelhead for pheasant, doesn't it?
 
Posted is posted.

That isn't the argument that I am seeing from most of the posters here.  It seems like the majority here respect the landowner's choice to do as he pleases with his land.  I think the issue for many, including myself, is the exploitation of a resource funded by public license holders for the monetary benefit of a few individuals.  I'm not contesting the legality of the situation, I just don't agree with it and refuse to support any of the players behind it.   

How do you feel about people who charge a few bucks to park in their yard near a fairground, race track, or sports venue? 

DarDys
 
How do you feel about people who charge a few bucks to park in their yard near a fairground, race track, or sports venue? 

That's not at all an accurate representation of the situation.

Will they let you tailgate in said yard?

DarDys
^It wasn't meant to be.

So you just threw something out there to intentionally distract?

Cold

DarDys
^It wasn't meant to be.

So you just threw something out there to intentionally distract?

Just trying to lighten the mood by being as absurd as asking someone to move from their residence so that a person that paid a whopping $20 can use the property that said $20 granted them some God-given right to do so.

Just thought I would take  a minute and let  those of you who gave me some advice about streamer fishing the kings/silvers I made it up their twice fished three day and had an enjoyable time.  Alot of fish and surprisingly not really crowded!  Mixed results swinging flies in a traditional manner, it didn't snag many fish but using a an unweighted fly I was not getting deep enough I guess, and even an intermediate sink tip hung up too often. I broke down and started "short" swinging streamers to visible, holding fish and did well. My son was able to hook several fish and landed a few big bucks.  I must admit i really enjoyed the fishing and found those fisherman around us friendly and accomodating when we hooked a fish. I think i may return for salmon again next Sept.  But I'll be up steelheading next week. 
 
Asking your opinion on a single handed steelhead rod. I have put my Sage 99 into storage and vowed not  to use it. Fishing  some other rods i have that rarely get used. I am finding all these "fast"action rods I have bought may be too fast and not able to absorb those first frantic moments a big chromer always supplies when hooked. Tips are not soft enough. I have hooked approxamately a dozen adult fish this season so far and only been able to close the deal on 4-5.  All others broke me off. I use Rio 3x tippet as I have done for years with much better results. So I'm thinking this is a good reason for a new rod. Does anybody fish the Winston Boron rods for steel and what are the reviews.  Would really like to get a Winston again. What do you think?