fischnmachine
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Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
Okay last year my buddy caught a brown and took the skein. He kept it intact and put good old borax in a zip lock and froze them. Is it possible to take them out of the skein and then use a different type of cure or will it ruin the eggs. I'm mean technically they've already been cured with the borax, right? Ultimately, we would like to get them out of the skein and tie sacks with them for steel. We would prefer to not have the membrane in the bags because of how it turns white in the water.
I suspect the most appropriate option is to simply do our best to get them out of the membrane and just tie them up or cut chunks and use an egg loop....
Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/17 12:56:25
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catch another brown and start again?
i've never had much luck getting eggs out of the skein 'specially when its tight
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/17 13:19:04
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Thanks bear, I'm wondering if it would be fine just cutting them up and putting them in bags. I've read people want to get them out of the membrane. I personally never understood why. When fishing salmon we would just cure the skein and use an egg loop. For steel, for whatever reason we've always used loose eggs and tied them in bags.... Sort of funny that I sort of just fell in line in terms of fishing for chrome... I really was hoping to use the BT eggs as some seem to swear they outfish salmon eggs.
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/17 17:17:43
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Use the egg loop and leave them in the skein. They should work fine until you get another brown that is loose. They don't want to come out because the ovary had not fully developed, but skein works well.
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/17 23:19:20
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fischnmachine
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/18 00:13:03
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Thanks Eagle I looked at this the only issue is the eggs were cured using borax and then frozen. So this process might not work. Now I want to essentially cure them again because I would prefer them not to milk out in less than 5 minutes.... But I also don't want to ruin the eggs. Finally I would prefer to fish bags versus skein so originally wanted to take them out of the membrane. I think I'm simply gonna thaw them shake of the borax let them air dry and dust them again with borax. Afterward I'm gonna cut them into small chunks and just bag them up. Who knows if it will work. I have king eggs for backup.
I do appreciate the insight. I might have to keep this in mind for the future when we haven't already boraxed the eggs.
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/18 07:09:56
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After the thaw and redust, put the skeins in a bowl and pour Karo (or any corn) syrup over them. Leave them out overnight. The thin liquid inside the eggs equilibrates with the viscosity of the karo syrup through the borax hardened membrane of the eggs. They will milk out very slowly after this. If you believe the old folklore about the 2 best trout baits being whiskey and sugar ( but how do you keep them on a hook) add a shot of amber and a couple of tbsps. of honey with the Karo!
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/18 09:07:50
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Put a shot of Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum in the mix. LOL
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/18 09:58:34
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Thanks lucky its seems this thread is now turning into a mixologist forum... Capt Morgans, maybe a little Baileys and of course Disarrono amaretto.
I will withhold telling my buddies next thing you know it will be a right of passage every year. You go up and start the trip with a cigar and the pulaski cocktail: 1 ounce of capt morgans, 1/2 ounce Baileys, 1/2 ounce amaretto. Sprinkle 5 cured salmon eggs and serve with crushed ice. Can't forget the maraschino cherry and piece of basil..... All joking aside our first year up we each made each other eat a cured salmon egg. More of a dare versus learning why a steelie eats them I think.....
Thanks again guys....
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/18 17:29:44
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Hey anise flavored plastic worms work on bass why not pickle the skein with your favorite libation. Geez I may be on to something here....Gotta go to the patent office to file some paperwork.
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/19 21:09:11
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I used to buy skein like that at poor Richards in erie. I wou break off a rubbery chunk and work it on a single hook. Caught a lot of steel that way. then once you catch a new one milk it.
CP
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/19 21:53:57
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Had great luck with skeins bagged up after borax cure and froze. But yes, as you said membrane whitens up fast. But if the fish are in/on the steelys gobble em up. Luckys secret sounds like a good one. Gonna remember that one.
Best eggs for large trout though are loose trout eggs.
Now pour me a double skein on the rocks!!!
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/19 22:10:34
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Skein Martini Shaken not stirred with a lemon twist
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/20 07:36:46
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The Karo syrup thing came from guys in Oswego years ago. The whisky and sugar I remember from the Russerts from Buffalo when I was a kid, but I always thought it might be a waste of good whiskey!
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Re: Brown trout skein to egg sacks...
2013/09/20 08:34:02
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To funny, well thanks again guys. I do appreciate the input as I didn't want to just throw them out. Now all I need to do is work on that pulaski c-o-c-ktail, only 4 weeks and counting.... Apparently the database/platform/forum did not like that word and chose to throw some asterisks in there so figured I would break it up with some dashes. Lucky, I'm not sure the whiskey would ever make it into the cure with me and my buddies around so I have to agree better let to drinking than curing.
post edited by fischnmachine - 2013/09/20 08:37:27
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