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2013/08/21 20:21:33 (permalink)

early season perspective...

Welp... hit down low for an hour and a half. No cohoes showed themselves but managed to hook a few wild Chinook. One was a solid player and it lost the battle. A high 20's wild female. Water warmed up noticeably for the first time in two plus weeks. I saw a few dead ones for the first time since they've been running. Luckily weve got cooler temps coming before the weekend to cool things off a little before the circus comes to town. Fishing is good. little movement this evening in the waters I targeted tonight. Probably a result of the warmer water.folks shouldn't expect to come up and have salmon at their feet. Its definitely time and place and knowing when and where to target. Have fun
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 21:05:54 (permalink)
    Very nice Db.. So with what seems a fair amount of early fish in the low water, what do you think will happen when they give that traditional release ?
    Well besides the ppl invasion . Lol

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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 21:24:31 (permalink)
    Good to hear from you Dime. I fished yesterday and hammered the kings. Didn't see any coho. Caught and released 12, lost a bunch to rocks. Tuna the cool water and on shore wind seem to be the only drive for these things right now. With another cool down coming hopefully it'll limit the floaters that were starting when I left at 3 yesterday. I fished up by Haldane btw.
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 21:26:25 (permalink)
    Thanks tuna... funny you ask. As it usually does, it should suck a good amount of fish in. The past two weeks have been a west wind and it has been pushing closely staged fish towards the cooler river temps. Friday night is a shift to a NE wind and cooler temps... wow, could make things happen pretty big by bringing those deep fish in close. Its gonna be a killer season in to September I imagine.

    Two Bob... I'm still holding down my original prediction from a month ago...what do ya think????.... ;)
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 21:28:56 (permalink)
    hot tuna

    Very nice Db.. So with what seems a fair amount of early fish in the low water, what do you think will happen when they give that traditional release ?
    Well besides the ppl invasion . Lol

     
    I'll have a crack at that............they're comming with the water,after all don't they always do that every year,don't they?
     
    PS: the fish and the people will come ............FISH ON!

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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 21:30:32 (permalink)
    Hook, what's happening bud??? Our posts ironically posted at the same time. We're obviously on the same page
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 21:37:20 (permalink)
    Read a post today on another forum indicating the release at the end of the month may have been cancelled very recently. As I recall this happened a month or two ago too. After all that rain early guess its been dry lately.
     Looked at the schedules myself and see that they havent been updated in a few weeks and could find no 'new' info--anybody hearing that ???
     Personally was kinda looking at a few days after the release for a trip.
     Have been able to just drop and run for a long time and this new house thing is really fouling up my fishing picture this year.
    post edited by retired guy - 2013/08/21 21:38:37
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 21:44:25 (permalink)
    Trev, I haven't heard of the cancellation.. I haven't heard of or checked the reservoir at all but water tables have lowered locally at first sight just about everywhere. My bet is they're coming soon even if there isn't water (as a lot have already come)...
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 21:54:24 (permalink)
    Well they canceled last years release due to a drought that lasted into mid season.
    While I have no clue what the reservoir looks like but if they are hurting then someone needs their head examined or pull it out of their azz. Absolutely no shortage around here even with the short break we have had without any. It's coming again soon.

    So db, I don't care what you have to do but kick them back out to the lake, at least until I'm done on tues.. I'm still not quite ready to SR fish yet ( to hot ) but sure as heck can't wait to lake fish :)
    Yes , I think after the day of our Labor it will be full blown game on ..

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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 22:12:14 (permalink)
    Even with a lower table  the res should be in great shape compared to those LOW levels last season it was full up a couple of months ago when last there ( late June sounds right).
       The only real issue one may think is weather there is enough to run decent  outflows while they maintain a res resource.
     Heck- last season was so bad they barely managed those VERY minimum outflows.
     Nuts weather lately.
     Like the man said -they will come----
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/21 22:55:41 (permalink)
    Yeah trev, I'd be shocked if its cancelled... too much water for too long this summer and they did a good job of throttling it down or up when necessary.

    Tuna, I'll do my best ;)
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/22 03:43:16 (permalink)
    I read that post about the labor day release.
    Since I didn't ever see it ion waterlineI think it was an innerweb joke.
    An attempts to make lurker dumbies not to flood the river more than salmon. 
     
    Don't remember the prediction Nosridimus.
     
     
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/22 06:30:37 (permalink)
    About those floaters.
    The temp was in the low 60s and the water felt cold when I wet waded.
    As I got used to it the temp seemed to even up.
    A report from a reliable source said morning water temp Tues was 69.
    Within the comfort range for kings with a slight raise during the afternoons getting to the upper limits but still tolerable for most.
    Now add to that the number of jalorms on other sites claiming 50 -100 hookups (just guessing but I'll bet a couple of those may have been foul hooked). Playing a  fish head down in the current drowning them is probably adding a major stress to fish at the upper edge of their range.
    Playing a fair hooked fish hard and taking a few seconds (minutes) to revive them probable will still kill an occassional fish but most should survive.
    Getting back to temps in the 70s with nights in the upper 50s and low 60s should keep it that way.
    An over night rain at this point would be  of great benifit.
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/22 07:34:47 (permalink)
    its shaping up to be another interesting season..... it was good to be up and feel a fish on the line, also to enjoy some time on the river without seeing anyone else
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/22 07:40:32 (permalink)
    We were just recently in Watertown for softball and they were saying how dry it has been which is nuts because here on the east side of the state we have had our share of rain. But rain or shine high or low waters they will come as we all know.
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/22 07:51:52 (permalink)
    Ugly, we've had more than a fair share of rain but it has been average seasonally dry for the past month. I don't really think its worth the gas to check the res at this point. I'm sure there's enough water and they aren't coming to come... they already have...lol!!!

    Two b, your 100% correct, yesterday was the almost the warmest water temp all summer besides the heat wave last month
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/22 09:09:27 (permalink)
    Tend to agree with Bob on that- kinda why I asked if anyone else had heard of it  -and couldnt find it posted anyplace.
     HEY- just took a look at the Web Cam and the needle has some guys on it and the water is UP a bit from the past few days too.
     Game ON.
     YES -checked the Waterline and it still says 185, however, the gravel bar on the South side is no longer visible and  under a bit of water.
    post edited by retired guy - 2013/08/22 09:22:28
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/22 12:29:31 (permalink)
    Lookin to go hammer them again tomorrow
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/22 13:05:04 (permalink)
    Geeeez now the gravel bar is showing- Change in camera angle? lighting earlier? Water drop a few inches? nuts?
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/23 22:26:37 (permalink)
    Didn't witness it myself but a firsthand reliable source said ball park and upstream was flooded crowds wading deep in to the oxygenated lies... yes there were some fish he said but really??? Thank god mid September is only 3 weeks away and my itch will have been completely scratched... bring on a long hard cold winter with plenty rainbow tinted mirrors to blind my vision off the snow bank reflection
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/24 09:06:29 (permalink)
    Think it may be kinda predictable  very early season stuff. In most places far more fishermen than fish with good reports from DSR.
      Fish are more jammed in DSR and as they go up and spread it isnt the same experience till more fish are in the river.
     Regulars will find them no matter what but the average fisherman may still have a tough trip.
     Interesting that all expected species are now showing down low.
     Whatever your expectations -good luck and have a great trip.
    post edited by retired guy - 2013/08/24 11:10:30
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/24 12:42:17 (permalink)
    I did fish it yesterday with my wife and daughter, we did get into fish in the morning but it seemed like the water started dropping. And saw more fish going belly up. Even the couple we got into in the afternoon had very little fight in them. Called it quits and went for a walk, some areas in the village had so much dead salmon it stunk and looked like the end of October. Already idiots standing in the runs and leaving trash all over the place. My daughter brought out a small trash bag of litter she picked up along the shore. The circus has started and the opening act is ugly already. Plus I think the power company should cancel the Labor Day release and bump that river to 335 now considering the run is early this year. That would give enough water for these fish to live and keep a higher percentage of morons from standing in the run paths ripping gasping fish. IMHO
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/24 15:09:52 (permalink)
    Well I got off my dead butt this am and headed out for  a couple mile walk.     I figured I would go to Pineville.    It was as expected to say the least.   There were a few holding here and there,  at the usual spots.    For the most part where there were a few fish there were a few people trying to rip them a new one.   There were not alot of movers, most were just trying to sit in the shade and relax.   I only got to fish to what I considered 2 really fishable fish that were moving and holding in the faster water.  I tried at a few others that were just hanging out.  None wanted anything to do with what I had to offer.  I caught 2 smallies and a sucker today though.   
     
    There were a TON of dead fish and a few I saw hooked  just kind of hung out like an October zombie.  These fish are warm tired.
     
    As usual I am a bit a bit frustrated at the level of difficulty getting these mid river fish to hit, but that's part of the game though.   Can't wait for steel that are HUNGRY.
     
    All in all not that excited about the salmon, but I am sure when the river loads up it will change.  
    post edited by Clint S - 2013/08/24 15:11:57

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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/24 18:06:03 (permalink)
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    Well I got off my dead butt this am and headed out for  a couple mile walk.     I figured I would go to Pineville.    It was as expected to say the least.   There were a few holding here and there,  at the usual spots.    For the most part where there were a few fish there were a few people trying to rip them a new one.   There were not alot of movers, most were just trying to sit in the shade and relax.   I only got to fish to what I considered 2 really fishable fish that were moving and holding in the faster water.  I tried at a few others that were just hanging out.  None wanted anything to do with what I had to offer.  I caught 2 smallies and a sucker today though.   

    There were a TON of dead fish and a few I saw hooked  just kind of hung out like an October zombie.  These fish are warm tired.

    As usual I am a bit a bit frustrated at the level of difficulty getting these mid river fish to hit, but that's part of the game though.   Can't wait for steel that are HUNGRY.

    All in all not that excited about the salmon, but I am sure when the river loads up it will change.  

    Clint,when the weather cools and the water rises they hit way up river,they'll hit mid river too if the slobs would  stay away and anglers take their place.
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/24 19:42:12 (permalink)
    Yea Jack, I had low expectations for this trip anyway.   You will have to let me know when you guys come up and show me how it's done.

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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/24 22:48:24 (permalink)
    Jack, As much or as hard as you click your heels the slobs will never disappear.  What is a greater testament to your skills as a fisherman is your ability to legally hook and land pressured fish to the dismay of the uninitiated.  You can only control what you do, to waste your energy on anything but is a waste of time. 
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/24 22:57:52 (permalink)
    Smart people know that there is much to learn- Stupid people think they already have all the answers
    ( NOT talkin bout folks who are incapable or just dont know)
     Smart people also know--Ya cant fix stupid.
    Good luck FISHIN fellas hope to join ya soon.
     
      Storytime- Gramp, in his retirement ,was a Constable overseeing the fishermen at the local Reservoir.
     One day he came across a fella from wayyyy up Noath who had a few undersized Bass dead on a stringer. Gramp called him on it and the guy went into a tirade about how thaim was Traiought noat Bass down where he came from way up Noath.
     They were dead and Gramp just walked off tellin the guy to never come back ----why  waste time----
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/25 05:50:10 (permalink)
    As for the lake. We went 2 for 3 and out about 4 miles anywhere from 85fow to 125 fow.
    Yes the fish are very big :)

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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/25 10:02:07 (permalink)
    Thanks for the update tunes... the river is warm and dried up unlike its been the past three weeks. I took a stroll back in 3fan land and saw a few kings yesterday evening... I went 1for 1 and my son went 2for2.................



    On smallmouths!!!! Had to change it up. The kings that are in the river now are far from fresh according to my standards
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    Re:early season perspective... 2013/08/25 10:25:46 (permalink)
    Way slow out here today. It seems the fish and boats moved deeper.

    "whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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