Thurs Fir Sat river report

Got in on Thurs evening to mid 60s weather-thats 30 more that a couple of weeks ago. Took a look at LFZ and it was up but fishable. Still lots of cars in most of the lots upriver.
  Friday got a late start after gettin a cat out from under my place. It went nuts under there most of the night- lol.
 Went to my favorite little brook in the world and found it over populated by tons of fishermen-some  fished and some had half pounds of wts. a foot above #1 hooks- thought it was the Ballpark in Sept. Made me sick. They had been pushed off the SR due to the flood conditions. Lots are empty now.
 Here and there found spots alone and had some pretty good luck using a dark red bead- C&R throughout and had a nice fresh mid teen male at one point- GREAT fight in the brushy area and GREAT memory. Biguns is neat.
   Came close to keeping him but took greater pleasure in the release. Fish were there but spooky from the crowds- hadda be careful and quiet and they cooperated.
 Went to see the river and saw some guys fishing the lower LFZ parking lot after driving through the water overflowing the road.
 It is UNSAFE to be anyplace on that river again Today too.
  Had some great fishing in my 'secret' spot earlier today but the temps had dropped into the mid 30s and it sleeted, hailed and snowed- all in a nice big wind lol.
   After a while guys came in from both below me and above me and I bugged out when somebody started fishing the same hole as me. Just like the big river in Shark season- no rules.
 All in all a very good trip for a year I figure is down on Steel for the most part, Never thought I would hook up as much as I did and they loved those beads- never had to change what I was offering and they took them readily..
 Have some real fears bout the return fish in the future with the numbers this season and the dirty silty fast big water running over the beds.
 Dont know how long it will last with the big water but hope for at least one more trip- Gonna be stuck here I fear due to municipal budget woes for a couple of weeks now.
MAY-I hope I hope I hope.

Yeah clint... drove by trout brook iin my travels today. Probably saw twenty cars...

RT, now ya see why i was winking at ya a few days ago ;)
Glad to hear you hit em good... kudos

Hey- hope  I'v been wrong bout the quick in an out--
 Report elsewhere says there are still many fresh ones coming into the hatchery in the past couple of days. GOOD.--
 Perhaps the water temps drifted down with the melt and runoff slowing things a bit.

dimebrite

retired guy

Hey- hope  I'v been wrong bout the quick in an out--
Report elsewhere says there are still many fresh ones coming into the hatchery in the past couple of days. GOOD.--
Perhaps the water temps drifted down with the melt and runoff slowing things a bit.

Shhhhhhhhh!!!!

 
Good to know...I'm getting the word out to all my snagging friends,might come up now with about 50 of them!

pafisher

dimebrite

retired guy

Hey- hope  I'v been wrong bout the quick in an out--
Report elsewhere says there are still many fresh ones coming into the hatchery in the past couple of days. GOOD.--
Perhaps the water temps drifted down with the melt and runoff slowing things a bit.

Shhhhhhhhh!!!!

Good to know...I'm getting the word out to all my snagging friends,might come up now with about 50 of them!

Always knew you had it in ya jack

And it is porbably just fine with the transplanted locals, I hear if three or 4 guys get in the brook with a snow fence and a few other guys walk downstream you don't even need to get your lines wet, and you can fill a couple of coolers way before light, and then go act effete in the flyzones. Jeez, if we make enough noise we can fill all the hotels twice a day, like shifts, and take some of the pressure off the Erie tribs when we pull the Pa guys and the Ohio guys up! We can probably get the Pulaski to Altmar corridor back to the glory days of cricket snagging!
 
L13

retired guy

Speaking of weighted trebble hooks -- how heavy does your Fly Rod have to be to effectively throw them ??  I would  HATE to become a Neandrathal and go back to spinning.

 
I just got off the phone with the snagging gang that's coming up this weekend.....we're going to 11 wt to chuck those crickets.......stoke up the smokers 'cause we will have the meat!

Regs.........

• Only one hook with a single hook point is permitted, except that floating lures may have multiple hooks including double and treble hooks only as permitted below or in Lake Erie tributaries where multiple hook points are permitted.

Floating Lures

• A "floating lure" is a lure that floats while at rest in water regardless of any weight attached to the line, leader or lure.
• Any hooks on a floating lure must be attached to the lure by a ring or swivel.
• The distance between the body of a floating lure and the points of any attached hooks shall not exceed one and one-half inches.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/31420.html
 
Waters With Restrictions On The Use Of Multiple Hooks with Multiple Points On Floating Lures
 All Lake Ontario tributaries except the Oswego and Salmon Rivers Cayuga & Oswego Restricted to 1 hook with a single hook point September 1 through March 31
 
Salmon River Oswego Restricted to 1 hook with a single hook point August 15 through October 31
 
Genesee River Monroe Restricted to 1 hook with a single hook point from the Driving Park bridge upstream to the lower falls September 1 through November 30
 
All other tributaries and the Oswego River All Multiple single, double, or treble hooks are permitted at all times

So would a 4" long Intuder on a Switch rod be an acceptable alternative to a 4" long rapala on a spin rod, when the goal of each is to provoke a "Defense of Redd" response from the spawners that a few years ago posters on this board said it was unethical (and I think is still perceived as unethical on the Erie tribs) to be targetting in any way in the spring.  Or maybe the rapala is the new J plug, which is a great trolling bait for fall kings in the lake but was definitely an expensive cricket in the river until outlawed by the wording of the regulations on floating lures, especially if they are using them in the little creeks like OB and TC.  But I know exactly what Dime is talking about with floaters along cut banks (or hotshots if you got em) the poor man's drift boat when the water is up, and a perfectly legal and ethical way to have your arms wrenched around heavily!! Ace in the Hole!
 
L13 

Intruder with a single hook, I don't see why a  rapala with a treble or a single would be an effective snagging tool, the lure jerks this way and that way, but I'm never looking for a way to snag a fish.  And I am completely in agreement that along the undercuts is targeting fresh or holding fish or dropbacks, but if you get upsteam from a redd and let the lure wobble down in, watch out for the Males.  The most effective snaggers I've seen are still the old ESLO Steelhead winners who could outfish a cricket snagger with a Size 2 single and some split shot, and were a big part of the reason there are no tributaries allowed in the derby now.
 
I'm also pointing out that wherever you are on the slope, if it is slippery, eventually everyone ends up at the bottom.
 
L13

The guys I spoke about in the trib were NOT appearing to be doing any lifting or snagging. They were casting about and working the lures appearing to fish them nicely in all directions..
 Just wondered about it and thought about the 'possibility' of trebbles whipping back and forth in all the right places.
 Just not my cupa tea in smaller waters.