Well, 9 degrees it was this a.m. ... guess they ate their wheaties last night

6 above this a.m. clint I'll take a peak at the town pool to see how the hard water is setting up for you :)
Colder days and nights still to come. 0 is in the near forecast so I'm sure we're gonna dip below zero again. With my chimney swept out the house is getting much warmer. It was long overdue.

I've been waiting for a cold enough winter to keep the Genny from blowing out for years, and now that we have one it is so cold, you have to thaw the guides every other swing!  And I've been sick half the winter.  Looks like a little thaw next weekend, but I just checked outside and it is a balmy 12 now, a little too cold for the swatter.  I was down at the lake the other day and the ice sheet went all the way to the horizon, first time I've seen that since 1982. 
 
L13

Clint, apparently the previous owner never cleaned the chimney... clean as a whistle now and she pulls hard. I agree with you about this weekend. I have an opportunity to get out on schmo bay for monster walleyes and plentiful large perch but I just don't feel like doing anything, especially after nearly having pneumonia this past week.

Lucky, I remember in the past being told I was wrong about colder water temps making your guides freeze more... it is true though. Of course air temps play a big part but just a few degrees difference in water temp makes them freeze much quicker.

I've been itching to get down to Selkirk since my last visit 3/4 weeks ago. Ice banks were 12-15 foot high then... can't imagine what they look like now. I hope the next few winters are similar. It will make for a great steelhead return in years to come... BIG FISH!!!

Lucky here is a article our local weather did on the lakes freezing.  
http://www.localsyr.com/weather/detail/d/story/great-lakes-freezing-over-dave-eichorns-blog/16063/6e6a-yWypkS3yRb4ky6gSg
 
Here is another link on the subject
http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/pubs/brochures/ice/ice.pdf
 I think it said in the late 70's Ontario was over 90% iced.
It is like 40% now.
 
DB  Chaumont bay can be good, but it is a long walk without a wheeler or sled.   Can be hit or miss.     Some pig walleyes out there.  
I have some sort of leak under my kitchen sink so I may have to tear into a wall tomorrow. I hope not ......................
 

2 above this morning with a fluffy 2-3 inches on top of the thick snow pack...not a cloud in the sky... its rather breath taking

Clint heard of a 14 pound taken out of shmoe recently. Don't know how true it is

Edit: took a little ride around and hit a few pockets of -2 and -3

Edit#2: still no temps near freezing mark for at least a week... some zero lows and very low high temps in the forecast

dimebrite2
Very interesting graph on ice cover. Looks like last high ice readings were 94 and 96. I remember New jersey had record breaking snowfalls and low temps both those years and I remember fishing in frigid temps on the SR those years... before that mid 70's was the next 90% ice coverage... now 2014... could it be an approximate 20 year climate pattern? Or maybe just a coincidence??? Interested to hear what the scientists have to say

Andy,get in touch with Al Gore,he invented the internet and is a expert weather guy.He is all knowing!

I will hijack the weather thread for a bit
Here is  the story on the EYE
http://www.abay.com/alexandriabaynynews2979.htm
I caught a a 33 to 34  incher late May at Henderson about 10 years or so.  Was nowhere near that fat, it was  spawned out when I caught it. No tape so just cut a piece of string and measured at home.  Back 20 years ago we used to catch 1 or 2 eyes in the 30's in Quebec, biggest one I saw was close to 40  up there in August.   Have not caught one in the 30's up there for at least 15 years.
 
Thanks for the offer DB, but I think it is all  good.
What a run of bad luck I had yesterday.  Decided to flush and clean my hot water tank yesterday.   After finishing the kitchen faucet was running at about 1/2 speed. It is a pull out with a switch from stream to spray.  Removed the faucet, took the cartridge out and clean everything else I  could and no dice.   Spray was OK, but stream was 1/2 speed. I think the switch is messed up/plugged   The wand is not serviceable.  Frigging thing is 6 months old so we are going to try and take it back to Lowes if not maybe try warranty, but they will say it is from crap in the water so after shipping there and back........may as well possibly by a new one.  
Went to my nieces birthday party gone for an hour.
Got home,  I went downstairs to get an old faucet I rebuilt after I got this new one, to swap them out and water dripping from a joists.   Did not remember dumping/spilling that much water under the cabinet.   Waited 20 minutes and still some water dripping so I shut off the water and  and it stopped leaking after a bit,  so I figured it was a leak in the wall.     Turned the water back on an hour later and no leak so thank goodness.     l think I may have left the valve on a small bit under the sink when we went to the party  or I spilled way more than I thought.   I left the water on all night and no leaks.   Put the old faucet on this AM and it seems to work well and my rebuild worked as it does not drip anymore.   Well $100 down the drain for the new faucet , but much better than ripping into a wall. 
 
Back to the weather.  Like DB said it snowed a bit last night.  I got up at 6 and did not check the temp, but it was around 10 at 7am and 20 now.   Sun even came out for a bit.   Just do not feel up to dragging the sled over snow and getting cold this afternoon so I will take a nap watch TV all day.  

Slowly learning that Andy. If you want quality you have to pay for it and take the time to go to the mom and pop stores (sometimes).   We did our research and thought we were getting a decent mid level  faucet. We will see what they do about it , told my wife to take it back and see what they will do.  I totally disassembled  the thing as far as I could and even soaked in vinegar all night.    

It is a slob, they come in they bays in the winter to eat the perch.  They are a little less abundant in the summer, but there none the less.

Lucky13
You could have lunch on just one of that slob's cheeks!
 
L13

That brings back memories of an guy we met up to Quebec back in the  early 90's.  We got to know him and would call him when we were going up so he could come up with us.    He made the trip up alone,  he was from a small town near Montreal.  He was from Italy and a teen during WW 2 .   Johnny Perota was his name.  Man the stories he told up.   He said his mom hid him under the floor as a teenager so he would not have to fight and  he saw Mussolini strung up.    Anyway I was cleaning up a walleye and he came up and tapped me on the shoulder.   He called me what sounded like kid with his accent and said in a thick  Italian accent,  "Kid you waste much, very much, you are wasting the best parts ."  Proceeded to show me how to cut the cheeks out for  poor mans  "scallops"   AND cut the throats of the fish out.   We cooked up the "cheeks and throats "   and man did the throats stink when they fried up.    The cheeks were very good and the throats were OK, but he gobbled the throats up like they were Lobster.    We had called his wife one year near 2k  and found he had passed.   We were up there about 6 or 7 times with him at least what a guy.

My brother in law has been fishing an impoundment ( res ) that the Susquehanna flows through for 3 days now near our deer camp in oneonta . It holds eyes, good ones too but so far in 3 days a big fat zero .. They can be tough to catch at times that's for sure.

I just plowed up the weekends snow,  not that much, but did not want it to pack down and cause a slush pit when and if it warms .

It was tough down there last week.
Mono rod fishing with the shelves extending 4-5 feet over the waters edge.
Moving from spot to spot was treturous so I only fished 2 spots.
Nobody dared the other side.
Group of 4 coming up from the trench as I walked in.
One guy fishing the head of the red rock.
 
Jack's dancing should take effect soon as its back to work for me.

Been meaning to have an excuse for a new quality drill and give one of those a try.  Heard the secret is keeping the batteries warm and you can get at least 10 plus holes per battery.    
 
Weather
 
I drove through a pretty heavy lake squall on the way home from Cicero to just past  C Square.   Dropped a quick 3 inches here in Parish before moving south.    Looks like it may sit to the south as 4 to 8 Southern Oswego to the 'cuse tonight