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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/06 10:03:05 (permalink)
Well the 40+ degree temps cleared the drive and the car is in the barn.We're getting the Artic blast tonight minus the snow.....Thank you weather God!
With the melt and rain the river should be clear for the Steelhead Junkies this weekend,good luc......wait I forgot the 3 to 5 feet of snow coming,bring a snowmobile!
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/06 18:29:35 (permalink)
Windy as hell and gettin worse.  Temp is around 20 now, but going to drop fast.  I think we will dodge the majority of the snow here in Parish.  Northern Oswego county and the tug seem to be the bulls eye.   3 to 6 feet.     Don't know how much we will get, but as long as I keep the plow truck out of the garage  I will be a happy man.   Real story for most of us again will be the cold temps with many schools already cancelling tomorrow.  All  Syracuse schools have already closed.  This weather makes a SLOW day at work for me.

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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/06 22:34:41 (permalink)
It is 5 here in Rochester, with wind chills at -15, and getting worse. I am glad I'm not in S. Buffalo (36" forecast) or Boylston (80" forecast) tonight.  10 minutes doing the trash outside with the fishing gloves on  and I had to keep the index in an armpit for 5 to thaw the frostbite.  Hunker down tonight, it's not fit for man nor beast out there! 
 
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/07 06:43:00 (permalink)
This is Fing nuts.   The wind is soooooo bad  the house is creaking and boiler running nonstop  even with the woodstove cranked.   2 degrees right now and not a flake of snow has fallen.   Up north is another story.   Can't imagine heavy snow and this wind.   To make matters worse Gubbner Blomo has shut down 81 until Brewerton.   It is going to be a cluster getting to work

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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/07 06:58:28 (permalink)
2 below here with wind chills that are scary.  Took the dog out, she pooped and peed at the same time for the first time ever! Started finger frostbite in under a minute, switched leash hands, and got her back in the house VERY quickly.  Only a couple of inches but last night with the wind driving was all but impossible.  Cold is coming right through the walls, definitely a sweater day today! 
 
Stay Safe out there!
 
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/07 07:09:08 (permalink)
-9 in Erie, with wind chills at -41
 
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/07 07:18:26 (permalink)
-5 in my back yard, I would guess (since the kayaks all blew into the field from their rack) that the wind topped 50mph gusts, and forgetting my cold weather prodocall, I let the bed room bath pipes freeze, so a day full of fix it projects now
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/07 07:40:40 (permalink)
-15 in Bemus Point. With wind chill oh, about absolute zero.
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/07 09:13:11 (permalink)
Has anyone heard from Al Gore?......Al when does that warming start?    Al you listening?......Where are you Al?
 
It's a balmy 0 here in SE Penna. and the Sun is shining.......and I still hate winter!
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/07 17:23:48 (permalink)
One of the features of the climate change scenario is higher highs and lower lows and more shifts and extremes.  Our emergency people in West Central New York are already worrying about the possibility of ice damming and flooding when it gets back to 40+ with rain on Saturday.  Ugly will get to the SR soon after that to find 5000 cfs of runoff from the 6 feet they are getting in the central Tug Hill.  And the indicator for me are all those glaciers that have disappeared over the last 20 years.  It will take a lot longer for them to come back than a couple of snowstorms.  Step away from the carbon, son! (but I'll bet Al feels entitled to keep an SUV for when he wants to go to the woods to dream up an internet or something!)
 
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/07 17:35:38 (permalink)
I've been on several glaciers 30 years apart, one in Alberta, one in the Sierra. It's absolutely incredible how far the headwalls have receded.  I climbed nearly 1,000 in elevation over moraine and talus, basically bare rock,  in Sept. that was 100's of feet deep in ice in the late 70's. It's one thing to see it on a PBS special, it's another to see the decimation first hand. Mixed in with the very dry,warm years are ridiculous snowy winters- 100 year events- that happen with greater frequency. In 2011 the Sierra  had snow on the passes in the end of August and stream crossings were raging with snow melt. I had an iceberg float into a cove of a lake I was fishing for Goldens, and put down the feeding!  The lakes above 11,000 were still icing out! Closer to home, the slides created on the mountains in NY and Vermont are something I've never seen in my lifetime. Whole mountainsides stripped of trees and soil by Hurricane Irene. Something's wrong. That's all I'll say, something's wrong.
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/07 17:59:42 (permalink)
Maybe  This weekend looks to be  a warm one and if it rains Saturday we could be in trouble.   This is the same scenario as the  flood in 84 that was 25k.    we got a hum dinger of a storm  right before Christmas and then around New years or so  it was 60 degrees and poured for a few days.   You could stand in the park on top of the hill in Pulaski across from the theater and just feel the water rumble through your whole body.  Flow has been raised to 750

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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 06:27:57 (permalink)
We're going to be in teens by this PM here, and they are calling for over 50 and area wide rain all day Saturday.  I don't think I'll get to fish the Genny all winter again, and hardwater on Hemlock and Canadice does not look too likely unless we get some "normal" winter weather for a few weeks.  Might have to put the canoe on the car, and set the tip ups in little inner tubes!
 
Good luck up north there is a lot of water on them hills right now!
 
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 06:40:44 (permalink)
I'm quite appalled over the 81 closure from Mexico to Canada freaking ridiculous. Way bigger storms have come through in the past where 81 did not get closed...not to mention there has been little accumulation from mexico to sandy creek... and the school closures due to cold??? freaking 9 degrees above???Syracuse schools on a two hour delay come on now!!! How soft is this state/country going to get???

Yeah lucky... could be some big water
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 07:49:24 (permalink)
Andy Borowitz:
The so-called polar vortex caused hundreds of injuries across the Midwest today, as people who said “so much for global warming” and similar comments were punched in the face.
Authorities in several states said that residents who had made ignorant comments erroneously citing the brutally cold temperatures as proof that climate change did not exist were reporting a sharp increase in injuries to the face and head regions.
In an emergency room in St. Paul, Harland Dorrinson, forty-one, was waiting to be treated for bruising to the facial area after he made a crack about how the below-freezing temperatures meant that climate-change activists were full of ****.
“I’d just finished saying it and boom, out of nowhere someone punched me in the face,” he said. “This polar vortex is really dangerous.”
 
From the Atlantic.
Wish I could be that clever!

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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 11:27:00 (permalink)
lol, nice
the polar vortex sliding in here was a result of warming in the artic, the normally extremely cold air around the pole holds it there....with the warming it was able to slide into upper level stearing winds and be pulled apart
 
 
ps, the result of global warming will be an ice age ;)

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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 12:27:45 (permalink)
Please don't hit me guys as I really know little about it.However,I still remember when Al was tearing around the country selling his theory,and making a lot of money,he was using a private jet to carry his body around.I thought he should have at least gone first class commericial to carry his body with a bunch of others to sell his story.
By the way I read somewhere that some glaciers are actually increasing....makes one confused to say the least.
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 13:14:21 (permalink)
Humor piece PA.
 
Don't worry about anyone here punching anyone else.
Freedom of thought is the paramount right.
 
Don't get confused that a belief of global climate change (of which humans are only a part, but the only part we have any control over) means we don't  know  Al G is a complete dufflebag
His fortune comes from coal and he leaves a bigger carbon footprint than some small communities.
 
 
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 13:53:05 (permalink)
I love this stuff.
We all know there are seashells in the Sahara Desert as it was once underwater and then a lush jungle after most of the waters receded.. Somebody decided to go and find out exactly WHEN the change came.
 Hmmmm how to do that- OK go out in the ocean where the prevailing winds blow sand remnants and bore holes to see how old the first layers of Sahara sand exist.
 Scientists were SHOCKED to find many layers of sand- not just  the one they were looking for.
 Seems that every 20,000 years of so for hundreds of thousands  of years the Sahara swings from ocean to tropics to desert. I understand that to mean a 40,000 swing from one extreme to the other.
   As has been said we DO contribute to the warming but climate change and cyclical issues therein have been going on for a VERY long time-even without us around.
 Do we make it quicker-perhaps- but its gonna happen depsite us.
 This stuff is why I love the history and Discovery  kinda channels.
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 14:30:20 (permalink)
Pafisher... many days in the past few month have been colder or just as cold in the NYC area as Pulaski... definitely strange.
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 17:50:02 (permalink)
Well, they're getting ready. It bumped up to 1500.
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 17:59:22 (permalink)
fichy
Well, they're getting ready. It bumped up to 1500.


I imagine the 1500 is due to Sunday nights rain event... in less than 8 hrs about a foot of snow melted with pouring warm rain. They must have a lot of water up there to be opening 1500 this early. But there's no doubt they're on top of their game. I'm sure they have this Saturday and Sunday in mind as well
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 18:02:02 (permalink)
Gotta say, wish I could be fishing more this season... despite very cold temps, water levels have been consistently changing which usually livens fish and brings new fish... instead of tired sleep mode fish that hunker down to a stable 185-335 cfs for months sraight
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 18:45:03 (permalink)
Looks like they read my post.
Bout time they started listening to wannabes and know it alls
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 19:03:31 (permalink)
The weekend before this past Christmas was handled well... they maxxed at a 3500 release during a 2+ ft. Snowmelt... Since then there have been two warming trends. 1 was the weekend after Christmas with warm air in the 40's for almost two days with rain. Then this past Sunday with warm pouring rain for 8 hours... huge amounts of snow melt coupled with heavy wet precip. They are definitely playing catch up. If this weekend is a huge flood event its not just from this coming weekends event. I'd say their 1500 release now is clutch and a catch up just as much as a prep.

Twobob... yes, its about time the know it alls and wannabes get heard :) ... what about the a*s clowns??? :) lol!!!
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 19:09:33 (permalink)
Sorry guys that I'm stuck in the ice but we had 8" snow on the ice sunday.. When I got out in the pouring rain monday we had 3-4" water on top of 8-10" ice and no snow left out there .. When I went back out tues it was SOLID glare ice which is now 12" thick..
 
As for the water management, think I said it last season.. Then have been doing a good job of things after the 2010 flood disaster (IMO) .. Only wish I could get my frozen brain to consider the expense and effort into making the trip to open water instead of cheap, easy and warmth of looking down a hole with a short pole..
Looks like it will be spring before it happens though..

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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 19:19:41 (permalink)
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Gotta say, wish I could be fishing more this season... despite very cold temps, water levels have been consistently changing which usually livens fish and brings new fish... instead of tired sleep mode fish that hunker down to a stable 185-335 cfs for months sraight

Andy, there is  more fresh fish this winter. Not chrome up river , but certainly not all dark and tired, either.  I'll be watching this high water and try to go after it goes down and stabilizes. Actually a good scenario if it doesn't go too high. The too high is more for humans though, the fish seem to survive. That's a great point about the changing levels.  Last time out I was surprised how well the fish fought and looked.  Hope you get out there.
 
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 20:12:17 (permalink)
Charlie... I have definitely fallen in to a has been status:) so I know what you're referring to ;) and yes, I hope to get out sooner than later...
I don't think this weekend will be way out of line. I don't see it being worse than the weekend before Christmas. You'd be shocked at the runoff and ground dampening that went on this past Sunday night in to monday. I think the river rose close to 200 cfs naturally this past Monday... one thing that did happen was a solid freeze up Monday pm up til our present time. As long as it doesn't rain too hard, they should have it under control with their present flow releases... but lucky is right with potential ice damming... hopefully the less than 24 hour above freezing time frame will prevent the ice from causing that. As long as the hill doesn't collapse I'd say a 750 + average flow for most of this winter.
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/08 22:57:02 (permalink)
This has nothing to do with the SR but they have flood warnings going up all over the major river systems in SE Penna,NJ due to present/potential ice jams and rain coming Saturday.
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Re:Weather thread 2014/01/09 06:02:40 (permalink)
I saw the Susquehanna has an ice pack and when that water goes up its going to break loose and cause flooding, shipoke look out.....I think the salmon is going to have a good blow out too, releasing 1500 now, add run off and she's going to be moving right along....how much run off can you get from 6 ft of snow on the tug?
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