Sorry for the double post but just checked the 10 day on wunderground.com and its saying 1-3 inches for mostly the next 9 days...lol

winter is official... hope to get some steel time in before the deep freeze. My best days have often fallen in mid-late december

Yea it was sleeting this AM at 5 so I went back to bed for a few hours.   Got a couple inches total.  Lake effect is in order I hear

Well the warm temps this afternoon(35) melted the ice by 1 PM so I did n't need to do a thing 
Yea Charlie that snow at the Eagles game was something.Used to be a big fan of the birds then they hired that scumbag Vick,I only caught a couple minutes of that game had better things to do.At least Foles is playing now but I'm having a hard time forgetting that they took on Vick.

Charlie x2 on prayers.   Working in that field I see the effects of strokes and aneurysms on a daily basis.
Andy time will tell on the snow, but they can keep the bulk of it on the hill.  
I am thinking ice here by  next weekend the 21st if the cold stays put.  Gonna get my gear out Thursday.   Gander Mountain is having an  Ice expo this weekend.    
 This is on sale for $119 

Still not a flake in the sky as of 945 here since earlier this afternoon.  Looks like  it is sitting on Pulaski though.  Could be a day to sit home  and veg.  My gear is ready we will see in the AM how I feel and how the weather is doing.   This time last year was just sweatshirt weather.
 
12/15 last year

Clint... looked like 10 inches by me this morning...

Back flow preventer??? Let me guess a watts 9d?

If its dripping from the blow off try tapping on it... if it doesn't stop and you have positive shutoffs on each side undo the unions and take the body out... try rinsing water through the body of the check valve... beats buying the new part especially since the lead free ban has been fully adopted. Prices on brass are through the roof. Give me a ring if you need a hand or have a question

Water does heat faster than antifreeze. if you have supplemental systems though be sure there's no areas near your sill plate or anywhere else that will catch a draft and freeze when supplemental heat sources override your thermostat.

No problem with just keeping that ball valve off and plugging your vent. I'd bet a watts 9d is upwards near 60-70 bucks since the lead ban... flexxing the spring check back and forth while rinse the check valve body may do you as well though. Good luck. Its sounds like you have a handle on it either way.

DB I got the part it was $33.   The vent is plugged so now to put it in when I feel rambunctious.
 
Now for the weather.   I just got home from the worse driving conditions in MANY, MANY years.   There are no banks so you do not know where the side of the road is . Visibility in front of the car was probably 15 to 20 feet tops.   It is coming down hard.   Looks like I will be plowing in the AM for sure.

NWS says you guys in Pulaski are getting buried, 28" at 7 last night in Lacona, 22" in Redfield, 14" in Pulaski with forecasts of 1.5" per hour for the next 36 hours.  This is why I hesitate to travel up to SR in the winter anymore, a 2 hour drive can easily turn to 6 or 7 hours of white knuckle driving.  Charlie, if I were going to the SR, I would be very sure to check the NWS forecasts for that area, you are almost to Utica before you get out of the lake effect band.  And our experience was we could always get there fine, but the ride home was what we needed to be considering.  I've been in clear skies at Port Ontario and driven into a 0 visibility wall on 3 before the cutoff to Mexico, and I've spent 1.5 hours just between Palermo and Hannibal, which is usually less than 30 minutes.  I could do this in my 30's, but at 62, I can get a little aggravated, as can the bladder and prostate!  Time to get out the snowshoes with Korkers built in, if you are going to be hiking the river, and make sure you have all the winter safety stuff in the car if you are going to be around the hill, or anywhere down wind of the lake!
 
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Came from cuse to Richland last evening... from about 3 miles north of square to the town of Richland line was brutal!!! Clints description fit the condition perfectly. I heard red field has totalled 44" so far. Let's pray no warm trend with rain comes out of no where

Good score on the back flow clint. There still are pre lead ban appurtanances out on the shelves. Sounds like you got one. The city plumbing supply houses are wiped out.

Looks like the snow is getting organized again up there.   Friend from Sandy creek  said it 3 below this am with well over 2 feet to take care of.
 

Sunny alot of the day, stayed in the low 20's
 
That friggen valve is still leaking after the change.   Hoping it just needs a chance to seat as that is what the guy who does most of my cleanings said when I called to ask him

It snowing like a mother here right now as it is moving south.  Looks like I will be plowing around noon if this keeps up.   21 degrees
 
HT I have a pretty old clam 2000 that has a few tears in the fabric that I am working on now too.  What limits me is size that clam will barely fit in my SUV.  That had a nice pull over there that I was quite interested in,   it would not fit in the back.  My usual spots for perch do not require much mobility, just a need to get warm.  Going to go to the ice show tomorrowif the weather permits and check the all out with a tape measure.
 
Well I have to get back to YET ANOTHER plumbing project as I have a leak in the freshwater feed to my boiler so back down stairs to sweat some pipes

gosh, I just took the clam 2000 outta the back of my Rav-4 before I set out this morning, with the flip over included..lol
Obviously I had to remove the back seats but I can fit 2 shanties in there.. A few years back I was running a subie waggon and toting 3 guys around every weekend.. I strapped the 2000 to the roof racks (which was it's home for the year) and we stuffed 2 jet sleds in the back with 1 seat removed.. If there is a will , theirs a way..lol
 
If the floor on the clam 2000 is shot, trace out some cardboard for a pattern and cut some luan (water seal it first) to fit on both halves.. Pop rivet the luan to the plastic floor and it will be great..
Honestly from what your saying I think the pop-up (hub) is the way to go.. I think you'd be very disappointed in a flip over.. They just don't have the space, the 2 mans are heavy as heck (80 lbs without gear) and the price for a good size one is outrageous..  I am using my smaller one right now as it's pretty light for an on the fly trip and mobile for moving around on the Ice but man, it is tight inside with the heater , vex and gear..
 
Please Keep all the snow up there.. I am doing another trip before work in the morning with some friends and don't need do be trudging through heavy snow.. We are expecting 12" ..ugh...

Jack, HT sleeps while he is fishing.  Remember the old cartoons where the guy fishing ties the line to his big toe and sleeps while waiting for a bite, well that's HT.  LOL