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Captains Association
Hello we are starting a new Captains/ Mates Association
The first meeting is going to be on January 12th at 9:00 Am
The location is at
My Brothers Place Hall
2058 Leesburg Rd
Mercer, Pa 16137
There are two different memberships
1 Licensed Captian
2 Mate
Anyone interested please attend and me ready to get involved
IF you have any questions Please give us a call
Dan 724 321 6729
Ken 724 681 0756
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Like2Fish
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/13 12:20:07
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Do you have to be a captain or a mate to join? I am up there almost every weekend and have a boat at Lampe
thanks
Clem
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/13 12:51:22
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The association is in its planning stages and currently the only memberships are for captains and first mates.. Thanks for the interest
The pittsburgh downriggers and the epsfa are open for members if you are interested.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/13 13:17:32
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What's the purpose and goal of this association?
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/13 18:42:17
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The association is in it's beginning stages The first meeting is to figure out what the goals etc are.
I feel we need a voice at the pfbc.
Lots of illegal charter operations going on right under the pfbc nose at walnut creek
The big tony illegal net incident etc.
Misappropriated lake erie stamp money
Safe harbor for modern boats at walnut creek
They are just my thoughts hopefully the other Captains will voice there concerns.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/13 18:47:36
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Sounds like a great idea. I hope it all works out for you.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/14 15:51:50
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Don't know how many meetings I would be able to attend since I live in Kentucky, but I would be willing to help out. You have my number
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/14 17:48:28
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buckets
The association is in it's beginning stages The first meeting is to figure out what the goals etc are.
I feel we need a voice at the pfbc.
Lots of illegal charter operations going on right under the pfbc nose at walnut creek
The big tony illegal net incident etc.
Misappropriated lake erie stamp money
Safe harbor for modern boats at walnut creek
They are just my thoughts hopefully the other Captains will voice there concerns.
Some great ideas, perhaps after you get it going you could offer "Associate Memberships" for those of us that support your cause but aren't captains or mates. I'm sure there are lots of us that would offer a hand... Any real upgrade at the Nut is probably not economically feasible. Their limit to 23' boats is a stretch as it is and it would take massive upgrades to fix that problem. I had a few meetings with a couple of state reps a few years ago about the need for a better facility in PA, not much interest on their part. Hopefully your organization can change that...
Curiosity killed the cat, but for awhile I was a suspect.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/14 23:37:02
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im interested. Ill put it on my calendar.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/15 00:44:36
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buckets
Lots of illegal charter operations going on right under the pfbc nose at walnut creek
I dont get it? When takin yer buddies fishin and they give you a lil more than bait and gas $ considered " illegal opperations"? BH
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/15 09:48:00
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BloodyHand
buckets
Lots of illegal charter operations going on right under the pfbc nose at walnut creek
I dont get it? When takin yer buddies fishin and they give you a lil more than bait and gas $ considered " illegal opperations"?
BH
Actually........YES! I believe Dan is talking about that and the fly by night, "I'll take you and your son out for $200 but don't tell anyone" guys that have no insurance and their only experience is a couple of personal trips a year.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/15 12:59:16
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I take my Dad out (2) times a year .. He fills my boat up with fuel every time. She holds 165 gallons of fuel.... $500 each time... If thats Illegal I will move to a Canada.. MM
post edited by mothermoose - 2012/12/15 21:30:12
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/15 13:05:13
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Geeze Moose. I'll take your dad out twice a year (or TEN times) if he'll do that for me....LOL
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/15 15:39:28
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Illegal operation is not usually just gas money. If the boat uses say 100.00 in fuel you have 3 people they give you more than your expenses it may be considered for hire. That is not what I consider illegal There are mutiple boats taking passenger for hire. That are not licensed. The stamp that was sold to the boaters by pfbc was a steelhead stream stamp only. They are stealing our money in my opinion for the streams. Dont get me wrong a lot of stream guys use the tribs but i run approximately 120 trips per year That is 600 stamps per year over the life of the program adds up to a lot of money just from my business. As i said before the association is in its infancy stage Hopefully lots of good ideas and maybe we can get something Done.. Paul and Mike Your are welcome to join and attend as well as any other licensed captain and mate.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/15 15:48:14
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If moose is getting 265 gal of fuel ( must be a h*ll of a big boat ), for $500. There's something shady besides illegal chartering going on at the dock.
Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference. Step Up, or Step Aside The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody. GL
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/15 21:26:04
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I try to fill up before the fuel gauge hit E... Intake tubes on my diesel tanks are higher then normal ..so I have about 120 gallons of usable fuel... And it's only 25ft. long .. Smell your finger chucker if somethimg stinks.. The laws are there to protect a people.. If your paying for a fishing trip from non lisenced charter captain... Your really taking a chance with your life ..IMO..
Every Charter Capt. boat I've been on ....They have there **** together..
MM
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 08:07:52
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I think that Steelhead stream stamp pays for some of those Steelhead you run charters for. Yet your getting short changed.
post edited by bingsbaits - 2012/12/16 08:49:44
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 12:11:58
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bingsbaits
I think that Steelhead stream stamp pays for some of those Steelhead you run charters for.
Yet your getting short changed.
The stamp does NOT pay for fish. Ironhed
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 13:22:27
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I'm gonna show my stupidity here...
What "Steelhead Stream Stamp" ar we talking about???
Never heard of it...
I've heard of a "Trout Stamp" and the "Erie Stamp" and the "Combined Stamp"...this is the first I've heard of the Steelhead Stamp.
On the internet, EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion!
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 14:47:13
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Dan is referring to the "Erie Stamp."
Ironhed
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 16:49:22
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Bings Let me make it clear for you lets say they collected 1,000,000.00 998,000 has gone for stream access improvement etc 2,000.00 has gone for the boaters that pay a large portion of the stamp money now keep in mind those numbers are just ficticious. Understand that the stamp was created by the stream fishing groups and is funded largely by the boaters. I just want our fare share of the money. as far as the steelhead slugs we have here in lake erie i say stock browns and coho and get rid of the rubber trout. I hope that makes sense of it.
post edited by buckets - 2012/12/16 20:11:46
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 17:19:31
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getting the popcorn ready
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 18:34:49
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What's a 'steelhead stream stamp'???
Most people that come out on my boat end up buying a trout and Erie stamp.
Good luck with your club guys, a safe harbor at walnut or elk would be awesome!
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 19:08:32
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Bigger problem; where are the fishermen hiring a charter? Recession has hit this group hard with the poor economy and jobs leaving the area. People are doing whatever it takes to save money. IMHO
Stocking numbers through out the state will be reduced throughout the state due to feds budget problems. I feel there will be little if any spending on projects in 2013.
Watch the roads in January, that will tell of the times ahead.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 20:13:17
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Get the pop corn Ready Not sure what you mean by that Fisherof men can you elaborate?
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 20:26:09
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I need some popcorn as I watch the show. 
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 20:50:31
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Am i reading this right are you saying that boaters buy more erie stamps than stream fisherman. ever been to walnut on a saturday in november
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2012/12/16 21:33:54
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dtjim
Am i reading this right are you saying that boaters buy more erie stamps than stream fisherman. ever been to walnut on a saturday in november
Ive been to walnut on a saturday in july whenever they shut the place down by 8 am because there is no more room for parking..... never seen that during steelhead season.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 21:34:46
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dtjim
Am i reading this right are you saying that boaters buy more erie stamps than stream fisherman. ever been to walnut on a saturday in november
Ever been to Walnut launch (or Lampe marina, any of the bay launches or North East marina) on Saturday (or any day of the week) from June until October? He's a charter captain. Every trip, sometimes twice a day, will consist of 2 to 6 customers, most of them out of towners buying a lake Erie and trout stamps. Multiply that by all the other charters, then add recreational boaters and their riders for an entire spring, summer and fall.
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Re:Captains Association
2012/12/16 21:38:29
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No, you didn't read it right. One of the issues at hand is appropriating more money from the Erie Stamp for boater access/improvements. There is no denying that a huge amount of revenue is generated from offshore fishing. Ironhed edit: Sorry Bogey, my reply was intended to the previous poster, not yourself. You beat me to it.
post edited by Ironhed - 2012/12/16 21:40:38
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