Rain did not help much

Picture 1 was taken today 9/7  and number 2 was taken on  8 /18    see the difference.   The rain did not even dent the levels.   The pictures were taken in almost the same spot.
 

You would think with no snowpack to speak of and off and on wet weather they would have cancelled all the water releases during the spring/summer so they would have something to run now.I guess a kayaker must be making those decisions.

Would appear that even with very low flow  the natural loss of water through evaporation and perking has lowered the Res significantly in the past few weeks.
  Evap. alone can be huge. Specially in warm dry weather- my swimming pool can easily go down several inches in a Summer month.

The Enviro idiots LOVE to hear that. Gives them work to do on 'studies' that lead to more detailed studies -that leads to more studies then detailed permits with restrictions that can make the whole thing not even worth doing.  Govt  gone wild with extremists in all the wrong places. Of course by then the Res will have been full again for a few years.
  We got a little brook that goes dry every Summer on the Golf Course. We have been trying to remove a old worn round metal pipe where the brook goes under a Cart path and replace it with a new pipe.. Same thing replacing the same thing in the same spot.
    The Brook- on a good day -is about 2 feet wide at its very widest point and  bout 2 inches deep-the pipe is about 30 inches around. Remember it is commonly a DRY stream bed for weeks at a time..
 Been a few years now-= still no permits----reason --- the Fish in the brook.  Yep-- it leads into a nearby Golf course pond and  it seems shiners occasionally run up-then back down of course in dry weather but - no matter to the Enviromaniacs.
  In some areas common sense is very uncommon.
 

Clint,I was watching the radar today and it appeared that there was more reds and yellow and longer periods of dark green inland from the lake.Is it possible the area west of you got more rain,hopefully feeding the lake ?

lol
yes we sometimes take the environmental protection thing too far....with good intentions
im a beg forgiveness kind of guy myself....do it then if someone b  itches try to work it out :)
 

Lucky13

retired guy

The Enviro idiots LOVE to hear that. Gives them work to do on 'studies' that lead to more detailed studies -that leads to more studies then detailed permits with restrictions that can make the whole thing not even worth doing.  Govt  gone wild with extremists in all the wrong places. Of course by then the Res will have been full again for a few years.
We got a little brook that goes dry every Summer on the Golf Course. We have been trying to remove a old worn round metal pipe where the brook goes under a Cart path and replace it with a new pipe.. Same thing replacing the same thing in the same spot.
  The Brook- on a good day -is about 2 feet wide at its very widest point and  bout 2 inches deep-the pipe is about 30 inches around. Remember it is commonly a DRY stream bed for weeks at a time..
Been a few years now-= still no permits----reason --- the Fish in the brook.  Yep-- it leads into a nearby Golf course pond and  it seems shiners occasionally run up-then back down of course in dry weather but - no matter to the Enviromaniacs.
In some areas common sense is very uncommon.

As a professional "enviro idiot", I can't let this one pass.  The capital costs of dredging are astronomical, aside from the excavation costs, you have to come up with a place to put the stuff.  They build resevoirs in natural low spots with downstrem constrictions so they can avoid all those costs.  Oh, and let's see. when you are mucking up the muck to dredge, you are creating suspended material that will continue downstream and might kill this entire year class of fry.  And I believe it was concern for fishery that got the minimum releases started. Let the lower river dry up in the summer to improve your "sport" in the fall, and three years from now you can have half the kings, we don't know how many less steelehead, and kiss the potential atlantic fishery goodbye because you cooked them in the hot months.  All for a fishery that is pretty much unnatural, no longer justfied in terms of alewife cleanup, and may be causing more environmental damage than it does good, according to some critics.  And folks wonder why they call us " fishheads" in Pulaski. A 30 LB KING HAS A BRAIN ABOUT THE SIZE OF A QUARTER.

 
being a beginner i don't know much but i've heard you are a world class fishhead.

I am kind of surprised about the lack of response to the rain I saw on Saturday.  I was back on a pond on the headwaters of the Black River in the AM, and the wind came up enough to make me get out of the woods to the extent possible when camped 15 miles back into the woods, so I went back to camp.  I put on the radio and got a NWS report of a severe t-storm warning for the whole upper Tug Hill, High market, Lowville, etc.  About a half hour later, having put on the rain gear and gotten some beer out of the truck, which was only about 50 ft away, the rain hit, accompanied by gale force winds that had me holding the ridge pole of my tarp to keep the whole thing from blowing away.  This continued for about 50 minutes.  When things died back a little my tent was sitting in a lake, and a bucket I had placed under the corner of the tarps was full.  I can see on the USGS that Canada Creek is up quite a bit, and the Black River went up after that, too. Anything that fell on the central Tug and ran off should show up in the reservoir, but with water there is also time of travel and it is a long way from Montague to Redfield as the Mad River flows. So I would not expect to see the reservoir go up so quickly, but there shoudl be some effect unless the storm didn't start to dump until it hit the Balck River Valley. I know Booneville got creamed, as I was listening to a 96-0 high school football game from over there while waiting for weather updates.
 
L13

Oh yeah it rained hard for a bit on saturday...how about last week when it rained up on northern tug...north sandy creek went from 2.5 cfs all the way up to 1300 cfs in a matter of 24 hours. Most folks i know who were out of water have now gotten it back...we are by no means near out of it but i think it'll change soon. Look at the 10 day for next week...could be a good one