Pitch vs Diameter

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2012/02/13 12:44:52 (permalink)

Pitch vs Diameter

I'm considering changing up the prop on my boat this year, would like to get up on plane a little quicker and don't really use the top end on Erie very often. I have calculated the difference between the two props I already have but was wondering whether to go with less diameter and more pitch or less pitch and more diameter. Currently running a 14.5" x 19 and my spare is a 15 x 17. Not a lot of difference in displacement per revolution but enough to make a difference. Was thinking of trying a 15 x 15 or 15 x 16 but didn't know if tweaking on the smaller diameter might be better.

I know Marty has posted some good prop links in the past, but I couldn't find them doing a search.

This sheet just gets more confusing to more you think about it...
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    harliqu1n
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    RE: Pitch vs Diameter 2012/02/13 12:56:06 (permalink)
    Gimmie a little more information...

    Boat weight, engine type, wot rpm
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    bulldog1
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    RE: Pitch vs Diameter 2012/02/13 13:02:29 (permalink)
    Boat weighs around 3,800#, engine is a 4.3 vortec, wot @4,500rpm. Boat is heavy for the motor and is a bit of a pig coming out of the water but will top out around 36 mph...
    post edited by bulldog1 - 2012/02/13 13:15:29
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    RE: Pitch vs Diameter 2012/02/13 13:30:16 (permalink)
    Ok, I’m writing this quick before I have to head off to work, so pardon any spelling errors.
    I’m assuming that it is an alpha one, with a 1.47:1 reduction in the outdrive. Correct me if I’m wrong.
    Your best bet would be a 14.5x17 Stainless vented. Why vented? Why stainless?
    Most people stay away from vented or talk dirty about them because they do not fully understand how they work, or what their purpose is. A vented prop allows a heavier boat with an underpowered engine to get onto plane quicker, without sacrificing total top speed. How?
    Simple. With a vented prop, there are holes in front of the blades to allow the prop to cavitate. Why do you want your prop to cavitate?
    When you are allowing the prop to cavitate at slower forward speeds, it allows the engine to build more rpm and to get it its power curves sooner. That will allow your boat to gain the initial bottom end and plane sooner. Once you boat reaches about 20ish, the water pressure flowing over the prop exceeds the exhaust pressure and seals off the holes.
    What makes me say stainless? A 15x19 aluminum and a 14.5x17 stainless are basically the same prop. With that big of a wheel, you get a tremendous amount of deflection. With a stainless wheel, the prop doesn’t deflect as much, and you don’t lose any pitch as the wheel is spinning faster.
    Prop dia. vs pitch is about as complicated as it can get. A 17 pitch wheel, is going to move 17 inches forward with 1 revolution. The diameter comes into play with the amount of water volume its moving, not how far forward its moving.
    Pm me with a phone number and I will explain father, I apologize about bouncing around everywhere, but there is so much to a simple question.
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    bulldog1
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    RE: Pitch vs Diameter 2012/02/13 13:38:48 (permalink)
    Actually it's an OMC I don't know, off the top of my head, what the reduction on the outdrive is. Interesting suggestion though. I'll pm my number...


    A little googling and found this - 1.68:1 upper ratio, 21:19 lower
    post edited by bulldog1 - 2012/02/13 13:51:16
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    RE: Pitch vs Diameter 2012/02/13 13:42:06 (permalink)
    What was the original prop when new?


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    RE: Pitch vs Diameter 2012/02/13 13:52:36 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: pghmarty

    What was the original prop when new?


    Not sure Marty, I assume it was one of the two that I have. I did replace the old motor with a new Vortec crate motor so the hp is up some from original...
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    RE: Pitch vs Diameter 2012/02/13 15:10:42 (permalink)
    Bulldog, I have taken Harliqui1n's advice and the changes he suggests are quite dramatic. He helped me with my rig (20' WellCraft with a 228 HP I/O) It jumps out of the hole and has a GPS speed of about 38MPH @4300 RPM. (Trim Tabs Help) He has a very good understanding of prop dynamics vs. engine HP. I would give his suggestions some serious thought when you talk to him. Good luck!!

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