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2007/12/11 21:53:56 (permalink)

PA rifle regs


What do you guys think of the no semi-auto rifles in Pa. I think there are good and bad things as with anything. Got to talking to someone out of state who used them where he was from( cant really remember where he was from wasnt really paying attention) he said he hates hunting without them.
 
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    bankyanker421
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/11 22:10:05 (permalink)
    If you need to use a semi-automatic rifle to kill a white-tailed deer you have major issues.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/12 00:17:51 (permalink)
    Id say go for it...just use one bullet
     
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/12 02:15:07 (permalink)
    H&K PSG-1 Sniper rifle is perfect for deer in West Verginia.
    Gun is a little heavy but the night scope is probably illegal on my AR-15 A Elite

    Regular AR-15 is light but the 3 jungle clips add a lot of weight
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/12 07:34:17 (permalink)
    Would love to give my AR15 a try but would not support the legalization of semi-autos for big game in Pa.  Too many spray and prayers in this state that unload thier clips in the gamemasters.  Would hate to see all the gut shot and three legged deer with 20 round clips.
     
    Small game and predators they should be legal, never understood why they are not.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/12 08:07:23 (permalink)
    I thouht a 7600 remington was a Semi-auto.  It sure sounds like when my friends shoot it.
     
    Keep the semis at the range and make the first shot count
     
     

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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/12 09:01:32 (permalink)
    Would be nice for ground hogs , grouse & ducks shotgun, but not tasty critters such as deer one shot no waste of meat. Too many lead slingers.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/12 11:19:41 (permalink)
    After almost being shot by some hunter unloading on a doe doing top speed acroass a field at over 100yrds away, I'm not a fan of using semi autos. This guy could reload fast enough. Unfortunately, because of the distance (and the fact that this guy couldn't hit a semi driving through that field) I did not get a chance to get his number. He never did check for blood, just walked away after unloading. I was that close to returning fire, but better judgement got the best of me. I wouldn't mind seeing semis for shotguns and/or small game, but not for big game.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/12 13:59:30 (permalink)
    i can see it now, a squirrel hunter witha semi-auto banana clip 0pening up on a tree rat running across the tree tops, lead flying all around, tree after tree, archery hunters falling from sky.

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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/12 16:47:20 (permalink)
     I think it is legal to use a semi auto shotgun on small game and thats just fine. Theres no need for a semi auto big game rifle. I dont understand why the people in an earlier issue of outdoor life a couple of months ago got so irrated when jim zumbo said that semi autos had no place in the woods. The last day of buck saeson my friend also got shot at when a doe was running across the top of a field its guys like that that give hunting a bad name or put hunting on the front page of the paper in a negative manner.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 09:11:34 (permalink)
    One shot, one kill.  
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 10:21:39 (permalink)
    I'd quit hunting if they allowed semi-auto rifles, no way I'm going in the woods with those nuts.
     
    I laugh everytime I hear someone unloading wildly. Not saying I never done it, but not anymore.  Chances are if you do hit them with those wild shots, it's going to be somewhere bad and most of the meat is ruined.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 10:32:52 (permalink)
    You're forgetting something.  In PA, we don't hunt for meat anymore.  It's all good as long as those trophy antlers don't get hit. 

    **** it!  That reminds me.  I shot a button buck.  No antler stew for my children this winter.  I'm a baaaaad Daddy.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 12:12:03 (permalink)
    Nice, gotta get them buttons before they grow up into a useless,foul tasting, soon to be hat rack hanging on some goofs wall.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 12:19:57 (permalink)
    Plug them for three like they do shotguns and I see no problem. Make more money for the clip manufactures.  Fine them if they possess a larger clip or a unplugged rifle.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 12:24:20 (permalink)
    Check out this year's rule book.  PAGC got rid of that page that said "Think about letting that button buck walk".  They replaced it with "Let that half-rack go, 'cause like, if it doesn't get hit by a car, or a junior or senior hunter doesn't shoot it, it just might live to grow both antlers and not lose them rutting next Fall, and that's what we really want in this state.  You know, big, symmetrical trophy antlers."
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 12:44:41 (permalink)
    Semi autos in rifle season is a baaaaaddddddd idea. We already have to many people with the lead slinging mentality. Allowing semi's would only make that worse. I posted another thread talking about how many times I hear people unloading their guns on/at a running deer. I dont think we should add to that problem.
     
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 13:00:58 (permalink)
    'nuf said.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 13:08:43 (permalink)
    Wellllllll--- you can fire a pump nearly as fast as a semi----and most shotguns are semi or pump and accurate beyond what the average whitetail is shot in Pa. I guess the antis could use that same argument to outlaw all pump rifles and shotguns and semi shotguns. How about lever action rifles? Where do you draw the line? I say plug them for three and let them use them. Don't want to argue but your just as hurt with a ounce lead ball from a shotgun as a 223 bullet.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 13:11:12 (permalink)
    This dude is nuts!!!!
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 13:26:58 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: S-10

    Wellllllll--- you can fire a pump nearly as fast as a semi----and most shotguns are semi or pump and accurate beyond what the average whitetail is shot in Pa. I guess the antis could use that same argument to outlaw all pump rifles and shotguns and semi shotguns. How about lever action rifles? Where do you draw the line? I say plug them for three and let them use them. Don't want to argue but your just as hurt with a ounce lead ball from a shotgun as a 223 bullet.

     
    "where do we draw the line?"
     
    I think we have already drawn the line in the right place. I dont think we need to change it in either direction.
     
     
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 15:37:15 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: walcat01

    This dude is nuts!!!!


    Speaking of nuts...

    Have you sat on your's lately?  I hear that's the second or third thing to go wrong at your age.  They kinda just,      uhm,       drop...
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 18:39:41 (permalink)
    I would like to see the junior hunters be able to use semi-auto shotguns for deer. Alot less recoil, shorter effective range so there shouldn't be any unloading across the field and slugs are not as dangerous as rifles when it comes to the length the projectile can travel...
     
     

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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 20:01:06 (permalink)
    Alot less recoil, shorter effective range so there shouldn't be any unloading across the field and slugs are not as dangerous as rifles when it comes to the length the projectile can travel...



    As much as I tend to agree with alot of what you post, this I have to say I do not.  Just because there shouldn't be _____, doesn't mean in real time that there wont be ______.  Think drunk driving.  Human nature dictates that not all of us are on the same wave-length.  You'd have LOTS of youth hunters unloading on the fly.  They do it now with rifles.

    Also, the heavier slug goes a whole lot further than most people realize. It takes a whole lot more mass to stop one than does their "caliber" cousins.  That is especially true with ricocheted misses.

    I would much rather see mandatory range testing than ever seeing semi-autos in any deer season for any hunter/shooter. 
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/13 22:55:43 (permalink)
    i believe you start giving jumior hunters semi-auto's they'll forget about making the first bullet count because they'll have a second and third shot. how many junior hunters will actually take the time to fire at the range at a fixed target with the semi's to see how inaccurate a quick 2nd and 3rd shot will be when in the hands of a junior gun hunter just starting out. 

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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/14 07:40:38 (permalink)
      I should have stated "with proper adult supervision". They are juniors and should have a responsible adult near by..I say that with a little sarcasm as we know some of the adults are the same fellas that empty their clips.
      I mean shotguns only. NY doesn't allow rifles they are to dangerous. You can use semi auto shotguns though. Would I want to take a richochet slug in the back?? No..But with a shot gun I can't kill some one a mile or more away either as with a rifle..
    Personally I would like to see the whole state go to shotgun only like NY. Would stop all that long range stuff.

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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/14 09:56:15 (permalink)
     Bings,
    Couple things.  NY allows rifles in their upstate region.  Also, Autoloading shotguns are legal in the Special regulations areas for deer hunting.
    I agree the special regulation areas could be expanded for shotgun only but I don't think the entire state should go that direction.  Would it lead to bigger bucks, I'm sure but a lot of guys love their rifles and I don't blame them.  I wouldn't want to give that up if I were them.  Me, I'll stick to my bow but in my opinion, going shotgun only in the entire state is stepping a little too far over the boundary.
     
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/14 09:59:59 (permalink)
    I'd think that is something we'll never see in our lifetime or our childrens.  Too much tradition in PA for that.
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    RE: PA rifle regs 2007/12/14 10:41:24 (permalink)
      You are right about it not being a good idea going state wide. It would make hunting the big woods awful tough..If all goes right for my hunting I won't have to worry. Just stick em with a stick and watch the rifle season from the couch.

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