Majority has a vioce ?

Just a thought.. Why couldn't the PGC come up with a poll on all the willing sportsmen,sportswomen to throw a vote Yes or No with topics like   " Rifle for turkey in certain  WMU's ", " AR,s ", the list could go on and on based on the license's issuing number . Insuring there would be an accurate and clear vote. With the majority making the decision. We the sportsmen,sportswomen would have the say in these matters, sort of like a democracy. Most all would have internet access providing easy registration. It's our $$$ that keeps them going anyhow we should have a say in this.            

Commonwealth look it up. This is to be decided by the people for the common good, And the polls would be based on your hunting license number 1 vote 1 topic.Computers can be programmed to sort through this so there would be no repeat votes.  

The problem arises when the hunters want something but the PGC or their partners don't. Remember, the CAC's were supposed to give everyone a say in deer management until the PGC wasn't getting the answers they wanted so they stopped them. It's a good idea, at least for some issues, but no agency likes to give up the power to make the final decision.

you should be really glad it isn’t up for a vote and instead handled by hunters selected to represent the interests of both hunters and the wildlife resources.
R.S. Bodenhorn

That is a stretch since the BOC (the supposed hunters representing us)just voted to approve the statement in their guidelines assuring that hunters will have no more influence over game issues than any other organization. We are now officially on par with the Audubon, Friends of Animals, HSUS and any, non hunter, or anti hunter in the state.

never assume anything

I have heard there is consideration on allowing rifle in 1-B for turkey? The hunters I work with all said this absolutely absurd and I totally agree. Why couldn't we have a vote on an issue like this or is it because we don't have the proper schooling to reason this one out.       

If pgc were "any kind" they would survey hunters and act upon those surveys. Im not talking having major issue put on ballot. Just informal surveys. There is NO excuse for at the very least gathering extensive input and making the decisions based on that input. But no, decisions are often made that clearly the majority wouldnt support, just because its what one or two commissioners want and they support of a few others to gain majority board support.There are many issue that are not biological in nature that effect hunter satisfaction. Those issues should be up to the hunters period. That should only be common sense, and would be something to maybe improve pgc hunter relations at least to some extent. And no, I dont care what scare tactics some want to use, there is no danger of any ramifications on many of these issues by excluding others from survey. Its none of audubon, peta, or anyone elses dam business whether we as a group agree we should have crossbows legal or not, change ar as we just had done, change turkey to rifle or keep it shotgun only as it is now in these units... Btw, just using those as examples of recent or proposed changes that we should or shouldve had say in, and didnt.

As for having more "say" over the deer management issues, I was hoping the environuts would be starved out of the commission when the fee increase denials were not granted going back several years now.... Then with more normal policies & possible staff forced to be in place, common sense management would then occur.... But its been a nonissue since they dont need that fee increase, and probably knew for quite some time they didnt "need" it with huge projections of gas income known even then. Also "other" incomes theyve been getting since. So it doesnt look as if that tactic will be panning out any time soon. Only other thing to hope for, is that somehow in coming years enough individuals are willing to make the attempt and can "fool" enough folks including the governors advisory committee and get onto the board, and vote appropriately but only after its known that the appropriate majority existed. Till then, go with the flow. Otherwise, Like boop, every attempt will be made to keep that "type" to a tiny minority on the board at all costs.

Could go right along with your mandatory report every year.
RSB says there is no need for negetive reports, waste of money.
Everybody reports,,,,Everybody does a survey...

You would have excellent data for GUESTIMATING the deer herd and allocations and you would also gain valuable feedback from hunters.

ORIGINAL: retired guy

Add all the antis in with the folks who could give a a carp bout huntin and then all the 'special interest' folks =compare it to the number of hunters--- think about it-
Headline- Hunting voted OUT.

and I am willing to bet that the anti's would gladly buy licenses so they have the PGC account # to allow them to vote NAY on every issue balloted.

I didn't find the question you are referring to in the survey from the PGC to abolish hunting ? Do you think that question would be on a ballot or survey when polling hunters collectively from the PGC, unless they already had this in their things to do list? I'm talking about issues that effect the Pennsylvania hunter's,and letting them know we want something done about said issue. Is this hard to understand.A majority voice that will be heard is all I'm talking about. Does anybody have an issue here that is concerning them or do they see a problem that should be addressed to better our Commonwealth hunting grounds ?

Years ago, they would send a survey to all license holders whose numbers ended in 0 , I believe...WF

I was sent one years ago, back in the early 90s === I believe...

I also remember filling out some sort of survey at one of the deer open houses just a few years ago......

Doc, way back ,in my young days, I believe archery eason ended before the rut. I think the tradition of deer hunting would still rule as to the openning day and the length. No one ,that I have read, wants a 2 week season for doe. Let the archers take a doe with their regular license, as before.Also, I still would like to choose which buck I would kill. Young is always tastier...WF..IMO, HR was needed but now should just go away except in urban areas.Why can't there be some flexibility in doe seasons?

I'm all for a tweety bird season!! 20 or 30 tweety birds roasting in an orange sauce and served over a bed of rice. A glass of Charles Krug chenin-blanc and I'm there...WF....Followed up with a scotch on the rocks and Double Taper cigar..

" 20 or 30 tweety birds roasting in an orange sauce and served over a bed of rice."

I'm pretty sure I had that at the Fortune Star buffet last night