ORIGINAL: dimebrite

Hey; leaving a little ammo in the chamber when your tight lined downstream will help your positive hook up ratio on those short strikes.... if you let the slack go while setting the hook it will allow the fish to move without pulling the fly out...

same thing basically happens if you using a pin outfit, - if you drop the rod for an instant b4 driving the hook home.

easier said than done, gotta have discipline to ease off the trigger - regardless of type of fishing hardware...

reminds me that no matter what "chit happens" - like the time I tucked my fly rod under my arm to light a smoke. Wooleybugger was straight downstream from me,bouncing in a couple inches of water,and a big brown trout rolled toward the bank and whacked the snot out if it. I hooked the fish, but dropped the smoke - and my lighter!!!

Drake the fact that you have a boober on makes it A-O.
It does a least 2 things.
It is moving downstream while dropping changing the angle, in effect creating slack, of the hookset.
It creates a pivot point unlike the straight line of the flyline.
Even with the line freespooling tight to the boober the human reaction time allows this to occur.

When using spinning gear you shouldn't have to worry about dropping the tip since the time it takes to reel up slack gives more than enough time for the boober to have moved downstream.
Being sure to reel up slack is the main concern with spinning tackle and boober.

ORIGINAL: dimebrite

ORIGINAL: waDerboy

Drake the fact that you have a boober on makes it A-O.
It does a least 2 things.
It is moving downstream while dropping changing the angle, in effect creating slack, of the hookset.
It creates a pivot point unlike the straight line of the flyline.
Even with the line freespooling tight to the boober the human reaction time allows this to occur.

When using spinning gear you shouldn't have to worry about dropping the tip since the time it takes to reel up slack gives more than enough time for the boober to have moved downstream.
Being sure to reel up slack is the main concern with spinning tackle and boober.

If tour line is up off the water and tight to the bobbed you gave to drop your rod tip to create slack;)

Not unless you have the reaction time of the Flash.
But I'm sure you do.

ORIGINAL: waDerboy

Drake the fact that you have a boober on makes it A-O.
It does a least 2 things.
It is moving downstream while dropping changing the angle, in effect creating slack, of the hookset.
It creates a pivot point unlike the straight line of the flyline.
Even with the line freespooling tight to the boober the human reaction time allows this to occur.

When using spinning gear you shouldn't have to worry about dropping the tip since the time it takes to reel up slack gives more than enough time for the boober to have moved downstream.
Being sure to reel up slack is the main concern with spinning tackle and boober.

Reread the first word in this post and then explain how my last several posts have been aimed at you.
You are at best an afterthought.

You were blocked!
Remember all the PMs back and forth.
I thought we were cool and unblocked you afterwards.
Since then I decided you aren't worth caring about enough to change anything because of you.

Feel free!
Come on.
I will gladly take the gloves off and go barekuckles with you.
No more holding back because some other posters don't like it.

Or you can control your need to be a fool.
Balls in your court!

Peeps, send your PMs to DB if this isn't to your liking.

Back to the trout beads. I know typical set up is with a bare hook would having a fly under it work?

Say like a egg sucking leach or something to that effect?

Just curious went up a couple of weeks ago but never tried it but plan on heading up next week and would like to get a little action.

Retired I read 36" below float 3" above hook

   Guys- am not rally into bobber fishing- would just use garden hackle If I was gonna do that. Wanna bounce or drift with the bead if it works that way.
  So if I got this straight I can go bout 3 inches from the bead to the hook----

So for the 100/10 that day you saw 890 deer? :)

ORIGINAL: dimebrite

Wow didn't realize you were letting your cheese slip off the cracker so much over here as well lee... as said in the other post its my pleasure at this point...for the tough guy comments; pretty frikkin sad man...although I know you like to boast about your size; if toughness and size matters that much to you that's pretty frikkin sad...

Please quote any tough guy comments I have made.
Or just admit its more of your BS.
It seems you are a bigger loser than I ever imagined.
Outright making stuff up now.
Anybody that has met me will attest to my size.
I have mention it, I have never boasted about it.

Thanks- will probably use that system- without the bobber.
  Is the swivel just for DSR or do ya think it necessary to keep out the twist with that rig anywhere??

Thanks- am considering using a fly  instead of the sac just to keep from having a bare hook or having to keep replacing  it. Probably about a number 6 or 8 something or another made for Steel. Guess its the bead they are really after anyhoo.

Like a swivel myself---fish 14main 10 floro leader all yr.

ORIGINAL: waDerboy

So Dime you found time to post several times but not to back up your LIE about me.
Very telling about YOU!
Please post my tough guy post or be shown as the worthless liar you are.

PS oops my bad.
I see when you done with my BS now that you are painted ion a corner and have no answer but to make stuff up.

ORIGINAL: retired guy

Thanks- am considering using a fly  instead of the sac just to keep from having a bare hook or having to keep replacing  it. Probably about a number 6 or 8 something or another made for Steel. Guess its the bead they are really after anyhoo.

RT - Since you don't plan on using a float with a bead, consider trying the right angle indicator setup that some of fly guys use.

I personally never used it, but from memory think it would provide a similiar presentation to a float based bead drift...

Not sure exactly how it is rigged, but perhaps some of the fly experts can inject some of their knowledge as to whether or not it would work.

later

I'm goin to play in the snow...

Hmmmmm, depends on how good you are at highsticking....   Competitive flyfishers usually  will choose to go without indicators, even  when they are allowed. A better drift can be had without, because the fly-bead, whatever will follow the bottom contour better, dropping in holes than if it's pinned to a set depth. Sometimes this doesn't matter or they are in mid-column. In the cold, it may be more important to stay low. . Changing the depth of the indicator to suit each drift would counteract that for sure. I use a section of  .021 for a butt, another section of 012, then a swivel to a 3'  tippet. The indicator goes on the butt section. The large diameter transition from the butt to the second section makes a hinge effect. I use a knot that allows for large gaps in size (Orvis blood knot, better known as Lefty's) . The indicator stays in place well on the heavy butt. The 90 degree bend I've always tied by forming  a triple surgeon's, then putting  just the  tippet section back through the  loop before tightening up all the way. This rig is good for SHORT casts using water hauls. It rollcasts for shi..  The fact you are limited to a 4' tippet also puts a damper on tying in a 90 degree bend. It wouldn't be very good unless the water was shallower than 3'. Just my take, probably full of crap, but it's what I've used and found. I'm sure you could rig up something with a 3-way swivel, but it's getting too much hardware heavy for  me.  I'd be interested to hear other's rigs.
 
Charlie