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2011/11/30 17:26:33 (permalink)

My buddies great buck

I have often wondered where the big bucks go after the shooting starts. Well, after yesterday, I am convinced many of them do not go anywhere. Tuesday afternoon, the guys get to their stand and I begin a slow circle of about 1 mile.  Bumped some does and small bucks to the guys but nothing to shoot at.  Decided to head to one last bench thick with multiflora rose.  Got there and took a 30 minute break for water and oxygen. Little did I know that this guy was watching me the whole time.
 
Only when I started headed right to him and my eyes met his at 15 yards in a brushpile did he make his last mistake and bust down over the hill right to the best rifleman in our group.  I knew he was big when I jumped him but had no idea he was this big. A old Pa. monarch.  He only had two front teeth in his bottom jaw with his molars down to the gum line. Three of his hooves were cracked badly. One ankle was broken and fused.  Just peeking into his mouth I am guessing him at 8 plus.  The taxi is going to save the bottom jaw for us to get a better age on him.
 
My other buddy say him during the rut twice and both times got his butt whipped by much smaller bucks. His age explains it now.  A old guy still trying to stay in the game but sliding downhill fast. I felt privledged to put my hands on him.  Enjoy the pics of this true Pa. monarch.  Here is my buddy and his buck.

The buck as he layed.

And me,  enjoying the moment with this guy.  Glad I was in on it.  I am quite sure this buck has watched me walk those same hills many times. He finally made a mistake and it was his last.

 
 

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    Claypool313
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/11/30 17:44:33 (permalink)
    Wow is all I can say.  Glad someone got him before he went downhill too far.  When you look up 'perfect buck' in the dictionary, that's what you see in my opinion
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/11/30 20:41:14 (permalink)
    Just looking at the face you can get the idea it is an old buck..
    hardly any brown at all !!!



    Congrats !!!!
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/11/30 20:58:14 (permalink)
    What an awesome buck!  Congrats fellas!
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/11/30 22:35:50 (permalink)
    WOW, super buck!

    What part of the country , generally speaking of course, was he taken in? The big one I shot in '99 has a lot of similarities. Crab claw on right side and the brow tines are similar looking.
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 05:11:17 (permalink)
    Very nice, congrats to your buddy.
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 07:51:31 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bulldog1

    WOW, super buck!

    What part of the country , generally speaking of course, was he taken in?

     
    This was in western Washington County.  Almost zero pressure on the first day and none on the second.  The least pressure I have ever seen. 
     
    Local WCO also confirmed little pressure.  Maybe the split had guys staying home and waiting till Saturday? 

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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 07:55:55 (permalink)
    Mine was shot in 2D, so most likely no relation but they are very similar looking deer. Congrats to your buddy!
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 11:07:15 (permalink)
    yum yum!!!!
     
    Great buck!!!!
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 12:05:55 (permalink)
    Great buck!

    There have been quite a few megabucks taken this season so far, that's for sure.

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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 16:16:30 (permalink)
    Awesome deer! Congrats to you and your friend.
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 16:39:49 (permalink)
    That is a tremendous buck for sure. Good job and great story.

    Sometimes with a little luck it just happens that easy doesn't it.



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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 19:17:11 (permalink)
    There have been quite a few megabucks taken this season so far, that's for sure.


    There have been very few bucks taken in my area but a handful have been bruisers. The 25"+ of snow we got early in the season last year let some get to 3-4 yo. Could be the same thing happening with the current lack of snow saving a few for next year.
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 21:24:37 (permalink)
    Good for you guys D.  Hope you remember the moment well for a long time.  Antlers lookin' good for such few teeth !  
     

    My reports and advice are for everyone to enjoy, not just the paying customers.
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/01 22:05:32 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: S-10

    There have been quite a few megabucks taken this season so far, that's for sure.


    There have been very few bucks taken in my area but a handful have been bruisers. The 25"+ of snow we got early in the season last year let some get to 3-4 yo. Could be the same thing happening with the current lack of snow saving a few for next year.


    Good point.

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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/02 07:35:38 (permalink)
    Was that another eastern earthquake I just felt or was it S-10 and Ironhed agreeing on something pertaining to deer hunting?

    The poster formally known as Duncsdad

    Everything I say can be fully substantiated by my own opinion.
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 05:01:28 (permalink)
    Just saying two front lower teeth are the norm.Nice buck but 8 yo ?
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 06:47:22 (permalink)
    That is a MONSTER Congatrs to you guy's
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 08:02:01 (permalink)
    great pictute and story.

    That is the most impressive Pa buck I have seen in a long time.

    Congrats to you and the lucky hunter.
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 13:19:06 (permalink)
    Nice Buck- congrats- Whos gonna try to eat it??
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 14:08:01 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Big Tuna

    Just saying two front lower teeth are the norm.Nice buck but 8 yo ?


    Really?


    As I said most of the front teeth from the lower jaw were missing and the molars on the upper jaw were to the gum line.  Bottom jaw is hard to see without skinning back the cape. Taxidermist is saving the lower jaw so we can get it aged professionally.
    post edited by dpms - 2011/12/04 19:10:11

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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 14:09:27 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: retired guy

    Nice Buck- congrats- Whos gonna try to eat it??

     
    Thanks.  Nothing that sausage spices and pork fat can't fix.

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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 15:35:23 (permalink)
    YOU said he only had to front teeth with his molars wear down to the gum line. ALL DEER HAVE TWO FRONT TEETH and molars.The 2 fronts cut the molars grind the food,I'm not taking anything away from a great buck just telling you thats normal.The teeth not the wear,not many deer live to 8 1/2 yo in Pa.and I doubt he's 8 1/2.
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 18:53:54 (permalink)
    the deer will have 6 back molars....judging on the dentine line and other things I couldnt tell ya by not seeing it. the front teeth regardless do not tell the age. its the six back molars. period, and face it even Experts are making educated guesses, they'll either say 4.5 or 5.5 or 6.5 plus...easiest deer to age are 1.5, 2.5, and 3.5-5.5 but that category is a 3 year guess.
    Judging on the lack of body mass size...he doesnt appear to be a large deer, you look big next to him still. His face lost all his young grey look and doesnt look "old". Regardless I'm not bashing, trying to educate on my small knowledge.


    Heck of a deer though. I would be proud of that deer regardless if it was 1.5 years old. Congrats to your friend
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 19:15:31 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Big Tuna

    YOU said he only had to front teeth with his molars wear down to the gum line. ALL DEER HAVE TWO FRONT TEETH and molars.


    Maybe we are not understanding what is meant when I say "two front teeth". In the picture above there are 8 front teeth.  Care to clarify what you are referring to as when you say it is normal for a deer to only have two front teeth?
     
    I also realize that front teeth are not indicative of age.  Just was cool to see a buck with almost none.
    post edited by dpms - 2011/12/04 19:21:09

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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/04 19:20:02 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Bull Lifter

    Judging on the lack of body mass size...he doesnt appear to be a large deer, you look big next to him still. His face lost all his young grey look and doesnt look "old". Regardless I'm not bashing, trying to educate on my small knowledge.


    Heck of a deer though. I would be proud of that deer regardless if it was 1.5 years old. Congrats to your friend

     
    Thanks.  It was great to be in on it.  Looking forward to checking over the lower jaw good once it comes back from the taxi.  First deer I ever saw whose molars were flat and to the gum on the top. Any deer over 4.5 is rare in Pa. This guy will easily be older.

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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/05 01:15:28 (permalink)
    absolutely outstanding beast!  one fine PA buck.
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/14 17:03:41 (permalink)
    A buddy of mine pointed out some more information to me today. I had mentioned that this buck had three of his four hooves cracked badly. Two were almost split the entire length.
     
    Well, it turns out, deer that survive a EHD infection often develop cracked hooves as a result of the fever associated with the virus. The farm that this deer came off of suffered a heavy loss from EHD in 2006. So the possibility is this deer survived the virus and puts him at least 5.5 y/o if he was a fawn at the time.  I suspect he is older but it is a cool twist if this is true.
     
    Neat stuff.

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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/14 17:30:14 (permalink)
    possible. i shot a year and half year old buck this year..and his feet were split up pretty bad too..just saying. he also had a foot injury as it appear he didnt make a jump high enough or even got scuffed by a car.. my assumption was he crosses the road alot and i know the terrain he lived around wasnt "easy" for his feet.

    Again, not saying anything wrong, Im just saying in most case scenarios a buck over 5.5 i would bet his rack doesnt look like it should keep growing like your buddies does..and his neck doesnt appear to have flapping skin everywhere like hes crippled.
    I'm putting that deer still at 4.5
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    RE: My buddies great buck 2011/12/14 17:31:30 (permalink)
    on a side note..i notice a natural light beer can in the background......hehehe
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