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2011/11/29 21:54:56 (permalink)

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This year in 1A and 2B has been INSANE with deer ticks.  Has anyone ever tried the clothing that is supposed to repel them, and anyone else have any insight on ticks in general.  I personally didn't mind the wood ticks I'd pick off while hunting in Mckean county, but the last two years and this year especially these deer ticks are creeping me out.  I pulled thirteen deer ticks off me and my five year old in one hour of squirrel hunting last Friday. 
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/29 22:15:21 (permalink)
      Ct is LOADED with ticks and has been for a lot of time now- Lyme disease is named after a south central Ct Town. Every year have several imbeded someplace on me despite many an effort with sprays and repellents- specially in Spring during Turkey season. This deer season had a deeply imbeded one that is still infected on my chest. Not to mention many 'crawlers' found when clothing is removed after each hunt.
         Had the Lyme cure years ago as have a number of family members and friends--- on the bright side most ticks we have to deal with in the woods are actually brown deer ticks and not the pencil dot sized Lyme Ticks.
        The flathead I shot last week was covered with them.; Some years seem worse than others and this Fall seems a bit above normal-repelents work but they only go so far as the darned things are found on overhanging branches and grasses and drop onto passing game- and folks- as they walk along.
    The little Lyme tick is often missed even when imbedded so please watch that youngster carefully- the 'bullseye' mark a day or two after a bite is the most telling signature visible thing that says 'DOCTOR and blood test".
          Also flue like or mild fever can indicate a Lyme reaction. A simple round of antibiotics is the immediate medical response and should be done ASAP along with the blood test and follow up blood test a week or two later if in doubt as Lyme can get really complicated if left to its own.
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/29 23:48:59 (permalink)
    Had a tick embedded in me a couple years ago...

    This is what the doctor said to do and what the nurse did to get the tick out...


    Get a little liquid soap, hand soap, dish washing soap, or whatever you have, dip a Q tip into the soap then pressing down gently rub the Q tip in a circular counter clockwise circle around the tick until it backs out. Usally takes only a couple minutes and the tick "backs out"


    BTW === tweezers, matches and cigarettees are NOT the best way to go... they may cause the tick to leave a discharge in you on the way out and that may add "poison" into your body by doing so...

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 06:04:16 (permalink)
    don't waste your money on tick-proof clothing...

    If you want to use a repellant use Sawyer's (sold in****s Sporting Goods). Active ingredient = PERMITHINE.
    Comes in a yellow bottle - you spray the stuff on your clothes and then them hang dry - the treatment lasts weeks.

    The stuff works.
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 06:06:08 (permalink)
    darn interweb sensor - Richard's Sporting Goods....
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 09:26:16 (permalink)
    The ticks are so bad in Delmont and surrounding areas right now.  It is ubelievable.  When you are sitting in the woods be very wary of them, I pulled at least 100 off of my clothes this entire weekend, and had 5 manage to dig in.  It was horrible, I HATE TICKS. Permithine does work though.
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 09:34:06 (permalink)
    If you want to use a repellant use Sawyer's (sold in ****'s Sporting Goods). Active ingredient = PERMITHINE.
    Comes in a yellow bottle - you spray the stuff on your clothes and then them hang dry - the treatment lasts weeks.


    Yep. Works on black flies, too. Just be careful with that stuff. Don't touch it or breath it while its still wet. Make sure the clothing is dry...

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 09:50:13 (permalink)
    Don't forget Fido! Around this time of year, people start thinking, "we're on the downhill side of flea and tick season," and stop treating their pets. Frontline 'em one more time.

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 10:41:41 (permalink)
    Not sure why but my son had a bunch on him every time he went squirrel hunting, I hunted the same area and had none. Must be that they don't like some folks or maybe there's something that I ingest that he doesn't that repels them...
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 10:46:22 (permalink)
    Beer?

    Eating Brewer's yeast keeps some insects away... Not sure about ticks, but works for black flies, mosquitos, etc.

    Cider vinegar, apparently too. But I've never tried that....
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 11:33:23 (permalink)
    I was going to post something about ticks here today. They are really bad up here. I had 11 on me on monday and 4 yesterday. Wonder why they are so bad lately?



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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 11:34:42 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK

    I was going to post something about ticks here today. They are really bad up here. I had 11 on me on monday and 4 yesterday. Wonder why they are so bad lately?



    Guess that kills the beer theory Might be the whiskey...
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 11:55:22 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK

    I was going to post something about ticks here today. They are really bad up here. I had 11 on me on monday and 4 yesterday. Wonder why they are so bad lately?



    PGC stocked them. Dropped them from choppers. draketrutta has it right.. permithine.

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 12:27:19 (permalink)
    permithine.

     
    Says if you get it on your skin to wash for 20 minutes and see a docter!
    Also to let cloths dry for 6 hrs.
     
     

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 16:24:27 (permalink)
    I guess I'll be getting some permithine.  Thanks guys. 
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 19:18:31 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bulldog1


    ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK

    I was going to post something about ticks here today. They are really bad up here. I had 11 on me on monday and 4 yesterday. Wonder why they are so bad lately?



    Guess that kills the beer theory Might be the whiskey...


    . Well not totally. I drank more beer tuesday than monday since i was walkin all day. Had less ticks tuesday. So more beer=less ticks? Dont know what the threshold qty is? Must have to drink a 30 pack to keep em off?



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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 19:41:48 (permalink)
    " Wonder why they are so bad lately?"

    Maybe nobody told them how "decimated" the deer herd is. Otherwise they'd all move to Ohio.


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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/11/30 19:46:02 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: spoonchucker

    " Wonder why they are so bad lately?"

    Maybe nobody told them how "decimated" the deer herd is. Otherwise they'd all move to Ohio.




    Lmao, maybe with less deer to feed on they now have more of a thurst for human blood......

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 02:21:20 (permalink)

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    permithine.

    Says if you get it on your skin to wash for 20 minutes and see a docter!
    Also to let cloths dry for 6 hrs.



    I actually got a slight rash on my arm the first time i used it.
    but it went away quickly.

    I dosed the clothes heavily with the stuff and the fabric was still a bit damp when I put them on..

    I don't blame the product, I blame myself - I have a bad habit of doubling down on the doses - whether it's Permithine, Beer, or Whiskey...

    The ticks are not only repelled by the stuff, they DIE!!

    Good luck out there in Penn's Woods...

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 06:09:18 (permalink)
    " Wonder why they are so bad lately?"

    Maybe nobody told them how "decimated" the deer herd is. Otherwise they'd all move to Ohio.


    Actually the population and spread of ticks has nothing to do with the deer population. It was just another of the bogus claims made in the effort to sell herd reduction.
    After herd Reduction was in progress the PGC posted their studies that show the deer have little or nothing to do with the spread of ticks and even state that if the deer were non-existant it would make little difference in the tick numbers.
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 07:58:38 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: S-10

    " Wonder why they are so bad lately?"

    Maybe nobody told them how "decimated" the deer herd is. Otherwise they'd all move to Ohio.


    Actually the population and spread of ticks has nothing to do with the deer population. It was just another of the bogus claims made in the effort to sell herd reduction.
    After herd Reduction was in progress the PGC posted their studies that show the deer have little or nothing to do with the spread of ticks and even state that if the deer were non-existant it would make little difference in the tick numbers.

     
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 10:17:26 (permalink)
    Your right, you should never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Not too many up my way although I did find my first two imbedded in me summer before last.
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 12:11:12 (permalink)
    if i remember i eat garlic the night before i hunt or fish. tics and other pesky insects don't bother to land on me or stick around too long. neither do the women!!! 
    i heard to get ticks off is to put a layer of vasoline or other greasey substance on them. the tick can't breath than and will back out.

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 12:32:15 (permalink)
    DO NOT apply substances such as petroleum jelly, finger nail polish, finger nail polish remover, repellents, pesticides, or a lighted match to the tick while it is attached. These materials are either ineffective, or worse, might agitate the tick and cause it to force more infective fluid into the wound site.

    If you do get one that is imbedded, use a Tick Twister:

    They work.

    Where I hunt, there are lots of ticks and it used to be that I would find one embedded on me somewhere, almost daily. 
    I treat my dogs with Frontline once a month.  Each and every time I treat them, I sneak a little onto myself, on the back of my neck.  I have not had a tick embed on me ever since.

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 12:48:19 (permalink)
    DO NOT apply substances such as petroleum jelly, finger nail polish, finger nail polish remover, repellents, pesticides, or a lighted match to the tick while it is attached. These materials are either ineffective, or worse, might agitate the tick and cause it to force more infective fluid into the wound site.


    I use a tick twister on my dogs, but I've heard conflicting advice on this. First off, if the tick is going to secrete its saliva, vomit, etc. when you put petroleum jelly, finger nail polish, finger nail polish remover, repellents, pesticides, or a lighted match, etc. on it, why wouldn't it do the same thing if you start twisting it? Secondly, if its inbedded and has been there for a while, hasn't its saliva, etc., already gotten into your bloodstream?
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 12:49:02 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout

    Had a tick embedded in me a couple years ago...

    This is what the doctor said to do and what the nurse did to get the tick out...


    Get a little liquid soap, hand soap, dish washing soap, or whatever you have, dip a Q tip into the soap then pressing down gently rub the Q tip in a circular counter clockwise circle around the tick until it backs out. Usally takes only a couple minutes and the tick "backs out"


    BTW === tweezers, matches and cigarettees are NOT the best way to go... they may cause the tick to leave a discharge in you on the way out and that may add "poison" into your body by doing so...



     
     
    I had to get one cut out a few years back and the Dr. basically told me to do the exact opposite as what yours did.  He said to never use anything to force the tick out like alcohol, vasoline, soap, heat, cold, ect.  He went on to say that all of these techniques would likely induce the tick to vommit into your blood and any diseases/pathogens in the tick would be passed on to you. 
     
    I was told to either use a remover like Ironhed suggested or to use quality tweezers and use a gentle steady pull with a just a slight twist.  I have used tweezers a couple times since and I was able to get the little bastids completely out.
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 13:01:32 (permalink)
    Two of my cousins have Lyme disease. They went to the doctor after feeling sick and the doctor found embedded ticks and removed them professionally. My cousins still got Lyme disease. In my opinion, once they are embedded it doesn't matter how you remove them as long as you get the entire body out and prevent from getting an infection...

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 13:19:10 (permalink)
    I recall reading a journal that basically stated that your odds of contracting a disease increase exponentially up until 72 hours after being embedded.  After 72 hours, it didn't seem to matter whether or not you had the tick removed because you would have already contracted the disease if one was present in the tick.  Time is a factor according to the journal and the likelyhood of disease contraction was far less at 24hr than 48hr and so on.  I guess the moral of the story is catch the tick early and remove it properly.
     
    I have known a few people that contracted Lyme and it can be very nasty.  From what I read it is tough to diagnose early as well. 
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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 13:23:36 (permalink)
    My cousins live in central MA where Lyme disease is really bad. One cousin has had no serious negative effects, but the other one has had circulation problems, weakness, irregular heartbeat, etc...

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    RE: ticks ticks ticks 2011/12/01 13:34:58 (permalink)
    it say not for humans but if I put it on my dog then I'll put it on me..


    Would you eat dogfood or heartworm medication?

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