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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/24 22:56:45 (permalink)
if you stillhead fish youre gonna be furious in a couple months. just sayin'

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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/24 22:56:47 (permalink)
"but it sure does seem like alot of guys went on defense mode when the look at me subject was brought up"

That's because the "look at me" label was tossed in the direction of some good, long standing members. Folks that I can assure you are not that self serving in their motivation for posting. In fact quite the opposite.

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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/24 23:10:36 (permalink)
If one was such a long standing member, then one should have know better. Unless one couldnt help oneself but to inform the masses.......
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/24 23:19:10 (permalink)
  commander imo the web ruined the steelhead fishin way b4 it ruined arthur guys i kno kept blaming it on the web and i wasnt buyin it but now i realize it was the web. i dont know anyone who is postin here and didnt intend to point fingers at anybody in particular and ill admit as i read through post i made earlier i was a lil cocky. i didn mean to offend anyone or upset anyone. and yes i was takin out some frustration here. i understand times have changed and im not ready to change with them. i fish alot more than most guys and arthur is close to home and maybe i just took it for granted but heck i lied to ppl for years who asked me you doing any good out there id reply with no or got a couple small ones i didn care what they thought about my skills i didn want to say ya im crushin them cause i didn want to draw att. to the lake and now to see it all over the web just kinda got to me a lil. like i said just letting out some frustration
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 01:07:10 (permalink)
Commander are you reading anything the man is saying jesus christ ur like a 12 year old boy listen to what you want and not pay attention to the rest... They were talking about effects on the striper population he clearly stated that he heard alewives pray on striper fry. Let me spell this out for you.... If alewives feed on striper fry the alewives( the little silver bait fish that lives in Arthur) will eat the baby stripers (fry=baby fish) which in turn will decrease the population. Its kinda like 1+1=2?
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 01:14:50 (permalink)
I personally have also witnessed the guys at pilot after the fish turn off showing off there catch and vie asked numerous times what the hell are you going to do with that and i have got some interesting responses one guy told me he was going to show his wife and throw them away and he had 2 fish about 25 inches.. I had to hold back from hitting him.. I proceeded to tell him i though he was a complete jackass.. You guys are taking this way to far all some of us were trying to do is say that the internet has affected the pressure on the lake and to be completely honest if you don't feel that way i don't really give 2 ****s because i know it has vie had guys from Pittsburgh tell me they read online they were crushing them so they came down. Without the Internet those guys wouldn't have been fishing arthur.. Like most of us have stated the damage is already done and I'm not saying you shouldn't help other anglers out but why spoon feed someone information when you had to go out and learn everything on your own?
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 01:48:07 (permalink)
Hahah who would have thought it would come to this? haha definately agree with the one comment made about pressure late when the weather breaks. When you girls that are crying about pressure, why dont you go out the in late march and april, when your lucky to hit 45 degrees those are the best nights maybe a dozen boats total. and alot of people are out there for the leisure. You guys haha. I gaurentee we can all catch stripers and snyder fyi i have been skunked twice this year out of the 40 plus nights i fished out there. both times i had no moonlight and was the memorial day eve when i counted 47 boat from old 422 to as far as my eye could see to the west and east also if you think that getting rid of the alewife is the answer you may not want to post again. thats the bread and butter for their diet. the only thing they hurt is taking away habitat for walleye reproduction. also I dont think anybody on this site spoon feeds anything maybe in a pm if a guy believes he s interested. if your a true sportsman you would help out somebody as much as you should so they can enjoy it like we do. but some people have it others dont you can only take it so far. but someone who looks it up and wants to fish prolly has the passion to become skilled in fishing. so lets drop this debate its pointless. a metropolitan lake will be pressured. not to mention in arthurs prime. cranberry was the second fastest growing economy and township in the us. think the population may have grown or not? NO PROBABLY NOT
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 04:23:24 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: snyder61

Commander are you reading anything the man is saying jesus christ ur like a 12 year old boy listen to what you want and not pay attention to the rest... They were talking about effects on the striper population he clearly stated that he heard alewives pray on striper fry. Let me spell this out for you.... If alewives feed on striper fry the alewives( the little silver bait fish that lives in Arthur) will eat the baby stripers (fry=baby fish) which in turn will decrease the population. Its kinda like 1+1=2?

 
 U don't have a clue, do u?
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 04:55:07 (permalink)
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I personally have also witnessed the guys at pilot after the fish turn off showing off there catch and vie asked numerous times what the hell are you going to do with that and i have got some interesting responses one guy told me he was going to show his wife and throw them away and he had 2 fish about 25 inches.. I had to hold back from hitting him.. I proceeded to tell him i though he was a complete jackass.. You guys are taking this way to far all some of us were trying to do is say that the internet has affected the pressure on the lake and to be completely honest if you don't feel that way i don't really give 2 ****s because i know it has vie had guys from Pittsburgh tell me they read online they were crushing them so they came down. Without the Internet those guys wouldn't have been fishing arthur.. Like most of us have stated the damage is already done and I'm not saying you shouldn't help other anglers out but why spoon feed someone information when you had to go out and learn everything on your own?

 
  If somebody asked me " numerous times what the hell are you going to do with that" I would prob. respond in the same manner as he did
 
 Last yr. you posted a # of photos of fish smaller than avg. at best under the Arthur topic & gave your reports on how great the fishing was there, ehhh? Not a good way to keep the place a secreat, noe/?
 
 But then you went to the lake on more than one night to get in a fist fight with one of SStuffy's gang, so you said. So Smitty  locked "Arthur". I'll give you credit there for keeping people away from the lake. Nobody needs to see that kind of behavior. Act your age if you say you are as old as you say. From your photo's you posted of yourself last yr. you must age quickly
 
 FISHIN' IS FUN.
   crappy
 
 Had my best yr. ever for large Hybird Striped Bass this spring so with all the reports ov little ones caught this yr. the outlook should stay good for awhile.
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 09:22:49 (permalink)
Man, this Lake Aurthur section is getting almost as bad as the Erie Section. any one asks for some info even as simple as where is McDaniels launch there reply is Get a friggin map!!!!! Its internet combat!!! as bad as the stillheaders!!!!!!!.I think reason why the pressure is up at Moraine is the price of gas!!Personally hate the lake but i have fished it a few times this year just to save gas costa a lot more trailer to erie or to pymatuning. I fish alot post seldom and i consider Lake Aurthur the worst lake in western pa Bar None!!! I got some bad news for everyone! All the lakes are pressured big time on pymatuning you wait for long time to launch and couls almost walk from boat to boat!!! Try Mosquito on a july day!!you see real pressure!!! Should have seen Shenango this past weekend!!!!!!!! LOts of people fish and boat LOTS!!!!!! The lake is close thats why its not the hybrids or an internet post that brought them,its also not a certain persons own private litte fishing hole his secret little oasis from the masses. here is a spot burn Caught lots of stripers at Shenago last few weeks More than i ever got at moraine easier to catch there also.Didnt keep any though thet DO TASTE NASTY!!!!

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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 09:28:35 (permalink)
There's really no point in arguing about this anymore its like beating a dead horse.. This all started out as some guys saying that the web has had an impact on the fishing pressure. Its not only the internet but it does play a big role in the pressure of the lake. And i never once said you shouldn't help another sportsman out. I'M just not going to broadcast it all over the web, if anyone on here would send me a pm and say hey I'm coming to arthur just looking to get pointed in the right direction i would be more than happy to help then out or even meet them out at the launch and help get them started. Yu guys are taking some things way out of context and twisting them around a bit.. Arthur is a great fishery, and probably one of the harder lakes around to fish. Ie spent my time out there a lot of long days on that lake trying to figure things out and i have learned a few things that i don't waanna post on the internet. Does that make me a bad person? According to some of you i think it does.
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 10:19:54 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: ICE NUT

i consider Lake Aurthur the worst lake in western pa Bar None!!!

icenut




That used to be music to the ears. BUT guys know better now. Ofcourse you used to have to do your own legwork before the spoonfeeding came about..............just sayin'
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 10:20:42 (permalink)
This is getting spun more than MSNBC and FoxNews spins political garbage.

Those saying that the internet is a factor are correct. Those saying that there are other factors than the internet are correct.

Those saying that the internet has killed this fishery are incorrect. Those that say the internet has no influence are incorrect.

Besides the first comment on this, which was probably a bit more emotionally driven and a bit exageratted, I don't see many posts on here stating this site or others as the soul cause, or have nothing to do with Arthur being crowded.

The fact is, there are a handful of factors that are on the same level of the internet causing the place to be crowded.

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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 10:49:10 (permalink)
Amen
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 11:40:34 (permalink)
Lake Arthur....
 96...... 31,000
 01...... 32,200
 06...... 1,700
 07......  21,100
other yrs. in that time frame 'til last yr...... 16,100


Last yr. the STATE had 31,090

  
09..... 133,825
08..... 67,290
07..... 155,816
06..... 50,670
for the whole state.

If they go back to the way they stocked in the early days just think how crowded it would be

I like the 16,100, seems to work good for that water, don't want it like the Erie streams with way to many.
Plus it's called fishing & it's way better to have a little challenge in turn should help keep the fish pres. from getting
out ov control.

Have a nice day
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 12:17:31 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: snyder61

Commander are you reading anything the man is saying jesus christ ur like a 12 year old boy listen to what you want and not pay attention to the rest... They were talking about effects on the striper population he clearly stated that he heard alewives pray on striper fry. Let me spell this out for you.... If alewives feed on striper fry the alewives( the little silver bait fish that lives in Arthur) will eat the baby stripers (fry=baby fish) which in turn will decrease the population. Its kinda like 1+1=2?

people HEAR lots of things. doesnt mean its true. are they stocking fry or fingerlings? should know the facts before speculating...and perhaps if you remove the sand from your **** you may not get so excited. just sayin'

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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 12:21:07 (permalink)

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ORIGINAL: snyder61

I personally have also witnessed the guys at pilot after the fish turn off showing off there catch and vie asked numerous times what the hell are you going to do with that and i have got some interesting responses one guy told me he was going to show his wife and throw them away and he had 2 fish about 25 inches.. I had to hold back from hitting him.. I proceeded to tell him i though he was a complete jackass.. You guys are taking this way to far all some of us were trying to do is say that the internet has affected the pressure on the lake and to be completely honest if you don't feel that way i don't really give 2 ****s because i know it has vie had guys from Pittsburgh tell me they read online they were crushing them so they came down. Without the Internet those guys wouldn't have been fishing arthur.. Like most of us have stated the damage is already done and I'm not saying you shouldn't help other anglers out but why spoon feed someone information when you had to go out and learn everything on your own?


If somebody asked me " numerous times what the hell are you going to do with that" I would prob. respond in the same manner as he did

Last yr. you posted a # of photos of fish smaller than avg. at best under the Arthur topic & gave your reports on how great the fishing was there, ehhh? Not a good way to keep the place a secreat, noe/?

But then you went to the lake on more than one night to get in a fist fight with one of SStuffy's gang, so you said. So Smitty  locked "Arthur". I'll give you credit there for keeping people away from the lake. Nobody needs to see that kind of behavior. Act your age if you say you are as old as you say. From your photo's you posted of yourself last yr. you must age quickly

 FISHIN' IS FUN.
   crappy

Had my best yr. ever for large Hybird Striped Bass this spring so with all the reports ov little ones caught this yr. the outlook should stay good for awhile.

nice. that sums it up. just sayin'

"I'm sick of all the fairytale stories of how this is destiny and how the saints have rebuilt new orleans.Sorry but you can write the script anyway you want but the actors(sean payton and crew)do not have the talent to step on the stage."---Logan Wade
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 14:58:02 (permalink)
The Internet killed Kenny!

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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 15:05:05 (permalink)
those basterds
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 15:13:05 (permalink)
you bassturds

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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/25 15:16:11 (permalink)
hey do you guys like fish sticks?
do you like putting fish sticks in your mouth?
that makes you a **** fish!
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/26 13:49:51 (permalink)
Long time lurker here but a few people in this thread inspired me to finally register lol.. I been fishing the same section of the Allegheny River since I was a kid that's 30+ years. I dont have much of a choice but to fish there since I don't have a boat or a car and this spot is only 10 mins walking from my house. It's few mins from downtown Pittsburgh. Some mornings/days/nights there are people drinking, doing drugs, shooting wildlife, body slamming fish, dumping the garbage bag, lighting fireworks, or carving swastikas on the chair I hide in the bushes. I have to hide my gear while I'm there because of robbery attempts. Do I complain? No. Why? Cause I don't own the river. Be glad you guys got boats and options to fish elsewhere and stop crying over water you don't own. just sayin'
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/26 17:33:23 (permalink)
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Long time lurker here but a few people in this thread inspired me to finally register lol.. I been fishing the same section of the Allegheny River since I was a kid that's 30+ years. I dont have much of a choice but to fish there since I don't have a boat or a car and this spot is only 10 mins walking from my house. It's few mins from downtown Pittsburgh. Some mornings/days/nights there are people drinking, doing drugs, shooting wildlife, body slamming fish, dumping the garbage bag, lighting fireworks, or carving swastikas on the chair I hide in the bushes. I have to hide my gear while I'm there because of robbery attempts. Do I complain? No. Why? Cause I don't own the river. Be glad you guys got boats and options to fish elsewhere and stop crying over water you don't own. just sayin'
i dont know why stating that the web increased the pressure at lake arthur is considered crying to everybody can someone please explain this to me
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/26 17:38:13 (permalink)
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ORIGINAL: snyder61

Commander are you reading anything the man is saying jesus christ ur like a 12 year old boy listen to what you want and not pay attention to the rest... They were talking about effects on the striper population he clearly stated that he heard alewives pray on striper fry. Let me spell this out for you.... If alewives feed on striper fry the alewives( the little silver bait fish that lives in Arthur) will eat the baby stripers (fry=baby fish) which in turn will decrease the population. Its kinda like 1+1=2?

people HEAR lots of things. doesnt mean its true. are they stocking fry or fingerlings? should know the facts before speculating...and perhaps if you remove the sand from your **** you may not get so excited. just sayin'
i made it very clear that this was hear say and not facts also made it very clear i had no idea what is stocked in the lake. its amazing how ppl twist words and only hear what they want to.its like trying to explain it to a 2nd grader
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/26 19:23:50 (permalink)
hi guys im new here actually i joined because of this thread. i have been reading on this site for some time now. i live a good distance from the lake and i only get to fish it a couple times a year. i appreciate being able to do a little homework of my own (online) so i don't waste a trip when the fishing isn't good. im not looking for anything more than a report of if the fish are hitting good or not. i know how to catch fish i don't need any help or secret techniques. i do keep the fish that i catch never more than my limit or fish that are not of legal size i paid for my license just like everybody else. i don't think that me reading some post to see if the fish are hitting or not and coming to your lake and keeping a few of your stocked fish is hurting anything. i do believe lake arthur is in the top 5 lakes in the state for stripers so its going to get fished hard. although maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea for someone to have to be a member here to read the post and also post some info of their own. just an idea! no expert here but i can get my limit just about every trip so if anybody needs any help i will be more than willing to share what i know.
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/26 20:00:06 (permalink)
  Click here www.fishandboat.com go to reports on right side of the home page & click on NW.
 They will tell you where the Walleye have been hitting good a couple weeks ago. Some guys don't like us talkin' fishin' on a fishin' discussion board u noe/
 Good Luck & have a nice day, 

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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/26 20:31:13 (permalink)

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i dont know why stating that the web increased the pressure at lake arthur is considered crying to everybody can someone please explain this to me


Wow stating the obvious isnt the only thing going on in this thread lol
People fishing my lake...whaaahhh
people keeping my fish...whaaahhh
people fishing next to me...whaaahhh
my fish are getting small...whaaahhh
people help newbies catch my fish...whaaahhh
ect.
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/26 21:20:29 (permalink)
So it's 2 more newbs, or not so newb??? I dont know wats more pathetic, makin a new screen name to post replies or....... well nevermind, that's pathetic enuff, jUsT SaYIn'.............
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/26 21:39:54 (permalink)
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ORIGINAL: colty
i dont know why stating that the web increased the pressure at lake arthur is considered crying to everybody can someone please explain this to me


Wow stating the obvious isnt the only thing going on in this thread lol
People fishing my lake...whaaahhh
people keeping my fish...whaaahhh
people fishing next to me...whaaahhh
my fish are getting small...whaaahhh
people help newbies catch my fish...whaaahhh
ect.
my point exactly guys got all that^^^^^^^ from me saying the web increased the pressure at the lake. totally over analyzed the statement... the web brings more pressure to the lake. cause i aint cryin bout any of that im just sayin over n over the web brings pressure to the lake and ppl are getting so much more out of that simple statement i cant quite wrap my mind around it
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RE: Lake Arthur ? 2011/07/26 21:45:52 (permalink)
De-nile aint just a river in Egypt, jUsT SayIN'
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