choosing right tippet size

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2007/11/17 17:37:53 (permalink)

choosing right tippet size

im just gettin into flyfishing, i went the other day and hooked 4 fish, lost all 4, all broke at the tippet knot or tippet to fly knot, i have 4lb test on my spinning rod and it never broke even with large steelhead, im using 7x, is this too light, can i get away with 3x or 4x, fishing meadow run and dunbar and other local streams
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    Green Weenie
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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/17 19:34:16 (permalink)
    A general rule of thumb is to divide the hook size by either 3 or 4 and this will give you the correct tippet size.  Example: on a size 12 hook you can use either a size 3x or 4x tippet.
    Remember that strength of the tippet  will vary from company to company, but the diamater of the line will be the same.

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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/17 19:36:00 (permalink)
    The tippet size your using for steelhead - 7x is way too light. Depending on what type of tippet material your using it is probably rated at only 2 - 2.5 lb test. The only time I use 7x is when I'm casting to extremely wary trout - in low clear water during the summer. For steelhead I always use 3 - 4 x which is rated at 6 - 8 lb test, again depending on what brand your using. I also use flourocarbon. As for the knot, I learned to use the improved clinch knot and have never had this knot fail. Hope this helps.
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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/17 19:59:09 (permalink)
    To add to what steely just said, when tying your knots wet the knot before tightening and pull the lines smoothly.
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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/18 11:31:04 (permalink)
    There are a few things to consider when you're choosing what tippet to attach.
     
    The thinner in diameter that the tippet is, the harder it gets to turn over larger flies and shot. If you are casting small dryflies in very clear water, 7x is fine. If you are casting a larger dry. lets say a size 14 adams, your tippet will have trouble casting the fly, and your leader will likely twist while your casting. With nymphs, I typically never use anything less than 5x, unless low and clear conditions call for it.
     
    For steelhead, since your most often using nymphs, eggs etc, with some shot, I wouldn't reccommend using anything lighter than 5x, because anything lighter would not turn over well, and because steelies will break anything less with ease.
     
    I dont often pay close attention to the pound test rating on tippets. A lot of the tippet materials such a frog hair have a high pound test rating, but dont hold a strong knot. Other materials like maxima have a lower pound test rating, but hold a very stong knot.
     
    As far as matching tippet strenth to the size and fight of the fish, just use common sense. If you keep breaking fish off, try heavier tippet, or check your knots.
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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/18 11:37:48 (permalink)
    ya i use the same improved clinch knot, been using it on my spinning reels and baitcasting reels forever and never had a break, i just think this 7x 2lb tippet is too light especially for a newb, i was gettin snagged on some rocks and just the lightest flick of the wrist to get it off would break the tippet, i have caught 10 inch trout on this 7x no problem, but the fish today were well over 15 inches, im gonna pick up some flouro 4x, i already use 3x for steelhead, thats strong enough right? it seems 7x is really only needed on very small low clear streams with spooky natives?
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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/18 11:39:35 (permalink)
    i know my knots are strong, i just think the 7x was too light for where i was, im gonna pick up some 4 or 5x and see how that works
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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/18 13:13:33 (permalink)
    trans go to sportsmans warehouse and get yourself some gamma edge competition grade fluorocarbon is on the expencive side 18,00 bucks i think for 120 yds 6lb the line it self is .010 inch in dia. lots of the fellas up erie are using it in the tribs and swear by it they are using it as the leader and tye right to it. trans check your pms
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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/18 22:02:32 (permalink)
    I most often use 5X for trout and 3X for steelhead.  The original clinch is much stronger than the improved (if I'm thinking of the correct knots).
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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/19 08:34:36 (permalink)
    I'll have to agree with most of the posts that the 7x is way to light for steelies.  I don't even own 7x for trout.  I go to 6x and that's it.  If I need anything lighter I'll suffer and make do with the 6x. 
    For steeelhead I use 3 or 4x flouro.  Never had a reason to try to go lighter, plus I'm a believer in landing a fish ASAP.
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    RE: choosing right tippet size 2007/11/19 16:24:00 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: TransAmWS6

     can i get away with 3x or 4x, fishing meadow run and dunbar and other local streams

     
    Probably 4x and 5x for trout in those cricks.
    6x if you're fishing tiny flies.

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