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2011/05/19 13:34:24 (permalink)

circle hook trout

Anybody use circle hooks for pellet heads? I can't seem to find a size/brand that won't gut hook em and still get decent hookup petcentages.
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    fishnabarrel
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 14:51:16 (permalink)
    ive never tried it, come to think of it i havent seen a size small enough to work for them yet
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 14:56:55 (permalink)
    Try a treble hook. They are harder to swallow.
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    FishinGuy
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 15:13:41 (permalink)
    They'll swallow a number 4 gamak octo circle no problem bout 50 percent have been gut hooked on them. Gonna try number ones I think
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 16:36:23 (permalink)
    I use gamakstsu size 8 octopus cirle they don't sawllow them and the are extremely sharp
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 16:43:48 (permalink)
    I tried it years ago. 5 trout caught and 3 were gut hooked. From there I figured what's the point and haven't used circle hooks since.
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 16:57:50 (permalink)
    Matzuo #6 or #8 or #10 18" Fluorocarbon Circle Hook Snells
    works great with minnows



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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 17:16:52 (permalink)
    Gut hooked with a circle hook? If that is happening more than rarely, no offense intended but I think y'all hafta check your approach. I've been baitfishing with circle hooks for years and could count the number of swallows on one hand. I'm not claiming to be better than anybody else, I'm just saying that circle hooks do work to avoid guthooking.

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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 18:34:29 (permalink)
    I know that's why I'm trying to figure out what's going on, I've tried the size 4 gamakatsu octopus circle, but it does have an offset point I straightened one out once but didn't get any hits. I'm using them w crawlers and small creek chubs. Bout a third are fine a third are gut hooked and I third don't get hooked. I've had great success w circle hooks on bass cats carp and various saltwater fish. And no, I'm not setting the hook... size six 8 and 10 huh? , ill have to try that, thanks for all the quick replies guys.
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 18:42:34 (permalink)
    I'm not positive, but here's my theory.... circle hooks are designed to slide to the side and roll into the corner of the mouth 'as the fish turns away or swims away from you'... in a stream/ flowing water situation most fish are facing upstream and feeding without really turning or moving away much of the time. If that is the case, then it would be possible they would swallow the bait, hook and all, because they are remaining stationary and current is bringing it to them and 'washing it down' so to speak.
    I'm not sure what the answer would be for avoiding this.... it's just my take on what may have happened FWIW.
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 18:52:27 (permalink)
    This actually happened in a lake this spring/winter through the ice and shortly after ice out. I've only trout fished a few times since opening day.I'm thinkin the size,four may have just been a little too big and it was getting lodged in their throat. The smaller hooks might slide out like they're supposed to.
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 18:55:44 (permalink)
    OK... the still water kinda shoots my theory
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 19:54:10 (permalink)
    Idk how your fishing? Lake trout or stream, but the smaller the hook the easier theyll gobble it up. I use size 8, thats the magic number. You need to cast upstream and let it naturally drift and reel in you drag as it comes down to you. You'll feel them hit then just set the hook. The more natural the drift the more fish you'll catch. Also Idk if your feeling the hits? but look to see if your lines as its drifting stops for a second if thats the case yank
    post edited by SevenMileShowcase - 2011/05/19 19:55:14
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 19:59:08 (permalink)
    i've had problems deep hooking trout with circle hooks as well. they dont fully swallow the hook but they get hooked pretty far back in the bottom of their throat. i have used eagle claw lazer sharp and gamakatsu circle hooks and i've had this problem with both hooks, i've never had this problem with any other species of fish but trout.

    the best hook that i have found for trout is the daiichi octopus hook, it's so sharp that it doesnt do much damage to the fish and you rarely hook fish deeply with them.
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 20:45:30 (permalink)
    Bubble gum and invicta I feel your pain. Seven mile I'm amazed your hooking any fish doin it that way, you're never supposed to set a circle hook. But hey its worth a try. I'll go buy some little ones and give it a go. I'm using the circle hook setup as second rod while I cast a lure, so I don't have it right in my hand at,all times, I'm doing either the standard hang a bobber on the line between the guides thing w a crawler, or a minnow under a float.... size 8 it is then I guess. Anyone try em for steelhead?
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 20:55:34 (permalink)
    If your catfishing with size 2 circle hooks you'll hook em. But with trout I'd say drop your second pole. Unless your at a lake I use the octopus circle because if they do swallow theyre easy to pull out with pliers if theyre not in the gut. I can count on one hand how many time they swallow the hook. If you try my method make sure that you dont overreel on the return or it will screw up the drift. I use it for steel head as well with a Berkley Gulp steelhead worm or Alive Minnows. They work great.
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/19 22:11:52 (permalink)
    I have no problems w gut hooking in streams, the rod is in my hands and hits are instantly detected. No problems there. It's the short wait running to my bait rod that gives them time to swallow it. That's why I thought circle hooks were the obvious solution. I'll let you guys know my results w size 8s. I use 4/0 circles for big flat heads. its all about the hook gap compared to the size of the bait and fishes mouth. That's why I thought a size 4 looked like I good gap cuz trout have thicker jaws than say, a lm bass. And crawlers and chubs are fairly large baits. Thanks again for all the replies I'm goin to grander mtn on my way to mammoth tomorrow and pick some up but I may end up carp fishing... never used the matzuos but ill look for em.
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/21 00:24:30 (permalink)
    Got size 8 gamakatsu circles today, they were out of tens. Only had about an hour and a half caught one trout and 4 bass, all hooked in the lip.
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/21 00:37:04 (permalink)
    if you need a circle hook for a little trout you shoudld give up fishing!! leave the circle hooks for the big fish!!
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/21 09:17:50 (permalink)
    Gut hooked trout don't live very long in my bait tank... and I've been trying to use circles more and more I've caught almost every species I Target w them.
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    RE: circle hook trout 2011/05/21 09:36:47 (permalink)
      I have no problems w gut hooking in streams, the rod is in my hands and hits are instantly detected. No problems there. It's the short wait running to my bait rod that gives them time to swallow it.


    ~Ah, now I get it! :) Yup, with enough time any hook can be swallowed.
    post edited by luvinbluegills - 2011/05/21 09:38:35

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