New Gun Control Bill in Pennsylvania

ORIGINAL: dpms

So they know what you have so when they pass legislation outlawing certain ones they can then knock on your door. I laugh when I hear people saying what can it hurt as long as you have nothing to hide. 
 
Scary to think that some sportsman feel this way.

ORIGINAL: thedrake

I'm glad you got a good laugh. I have a good laugh when I hear people say there are too many gun laws, as if those laws are restricting any good citizen from owning any guns except automatic weapons. What laws do you want to do away with?

Lets take for example, background checks. Eliminating these checks will allow certain people who may be dangerous, to acquire a gun. The last time I bought a firearm, there was no wait. I wrote out a check, filled out a form or two and went out the door. No inconvenience. Do you want to do away with those?

How about automatic weapons? Do you want the average citizen to own them? Do you want to own one? You mention that anyone who wants to get a gun illegally will get one. I dont think thats completley true. In the town I live in, there arent exactly many people who are out trying to sell uzi's from the trunk of a car. Allowing the general public to have them would allow them to trickle down into the hands of those who want to do harm with them.

So your worried that a "sportsman" would feel this way? I worry more that a"sportsmen" would want a lot of unregistered guns floating around. Remember, the non-gunowning public groups all us gun owners together, whether we obey the law or not. If gun crimes are reduced, then we have less ammo to give the antigun crowd.

ORIGINAL: dpms

Just an update.  The bill looks dead.  Two of the sponsors from the Pittsburgh area have withdrawn thier support.  At least that is what thier respective offices are saying thanks to vocal opposition.

ORIGINAL: dpms

Logical this logical that.  What's next. The local police department can keep your guns till you need one to go hunting then you can go check it out. 

Get real, look at the big picture.  Every step in the wrong direction away from our 2nd. Amendment rights is one step closer to the above. 

Playing "devils advocate" with gun control means you are anti-gun, which is your right by the way.  If you are going to say you are pro-gun you are kidding yourself.

ORIGINAL: Pheasant Hunter

     First, let me ask... Did you actually read and comprehend HB 760? If not, you should do that now.
     Why do I oppose gun registration? Well, let's see... the government has no valid need to know who has how many guns and of what caliber. That's just a tool for the next step that these gun-grabbers intend to take - confiscating your guns!!! You can rationalize it all you want, but there are many people in positions of power, who believe there is no valid reason for a "common citizen" to own firearms. Don't believe it can happen, here in the good ol' USA? It already did!!! Visit http://www.givethemback.com/ and watch some of the clips. Pretty disturbing that this happened on American soil. These peoples' Constitutional rights were flushed down the toilet, in a heartbeat... and you think that we couldn't be next? Think again!!!... and if you believe the excuse that they had to do it, because of the turmoil, after Hurricane Katrina, you're advocating that our Constitutional rights can be revoked at any time the government deems necessary. These people were at a point where their guns and Constitutional rights were ALL THEY HAD, and the government took away both. Yes, this website is tied to the NRA, but if it weren't for the NRA staying on top of the gun-grabbers, where would we be?
     Our founding fathers believed so strongly in the right to bear arms, that they made it second, only to the freedoms of speech, press, religion, assembly, and petition ... it's THAT important.
 
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Notice... it says "people", not "soldiers." "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is also pretty blunt, and doesn't really leave room for interpretation.
   Face the facts... requiring people to register and pay, to exercise this right, would certainly be a MAJOR infringement.
Definition:




in·fringe [ in frínj ] (past and past participle in·fringed, present participle in·fring·ing, 3rd person present singular in·fring·es)



verb 



Definition:

 

1. transitive verb disobey or disregard something: to fail to obey a law or regulation or observe the terms of an agreement



2. transitive and intransitive verb encroach on somebody's rights or property: to take over land, rights, privileges, or activities that belong to somebody else, especially in a minor or gradual way
infringing on our personal freedom

We have to stop pointing the finger everywhere but at the very people who prey on us each day. Over time we have allowed our value system to erode.
We refuse to hold people accountable for their actions and constantly make excuses for their inexcusable behavior.
The incessant cry for tougher gun laws is a good example. Until we're ready to strictly enforce the current laws there is no reason for tougher ones.

Yes, there is a need to work on the social ills at the core of much of the unrest, but that does not mean we should accept those ills as a reason to excuse the behavior.
Those engaged in this violent lifestyle know exactly what they're doing.
They also know it is wrong.
And they also know there are no serious consequences for their actions.
It's not a matter of not knowing right from wrong, it's a matter of weighing the risk. And today they face very little risk.

Time after time these budding killers are arrested with guns, only to be returned to the streets with a slap on the wrist.

Is it any wonder we have trouble getting witnesses to speak up?

Instead of holding vigils at murder scenes, groups like Men United for a Better Philadelphia and Mothers in Charge should throw a ring around the Criminal In-Justice Center and demand that our judges hold the criminals accountable.

More than 80 percent of Philadelphia's cold-blooded killers have criminal records. Most of those records are lengthy, many for violent crimes. Every one of those arrests represents an opportunity to send a clear message, before they take another life.