good day...

Nice! I got caught in a d... down pour!

Nice Day K....wish I could hear that sucker run. Drag on an old reel is like..........Ron Jeremy special. Serious.

I also went out today....solo....in a downpour...30 mph wind...and I freekin hammered em...

like you said...I cant believe how many fish I brought to hand.

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isn't this a foul hook?  not trying to be an @ss, just wondering

Ive never said this to "you" before.....your a snagger....embrace it....your club card and hat are in the mail.

I dont care who ya are...that right thur is funny......


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Looks outside from here...exactly in what special way is it fished that makes it impossible for a foul hook?

isn't this a foul hook?  not trying to be an @ss, just wondering

Sheesh...if you say so

Probably lost him at the skagit double.

i wish PA would get over the whole snaggin thing....lots of other states condone it.

that fish was not flossed... it moved up in the column to eat a swung fly

i mentioned fly design
swing a short shank octopus hook on shank style flies will leave the body of the fly out of the mouth
notice the corner placements of the hooks

if i would have held this fish as the one from monday... it would look the same
but this fish was hooked more towards the front


if held out out the water, the hook and fly would have also dropped, probably around the jaw bone for a look similar to the original picture

fair enough, like i said... just curiosity

Back in the day when I worked at a sports shop near Raystwon, we sold trout for bait to the striper anglers.  I often fed the trout dying minnows and observed how they struck them.  While the takes were always aimed at the head of the minnow, many times the trout did not get the entire minnow in its mouth, particularly if is was a quick swipe at the bait, and half of the minnow would be hanging out of the trout's mouth until it decided to burp it up and try again.  Sometimes they swam around for half a minute like that. 
 
Since a streamer more often than not imitates a baitfish, it is not unusual for a trout, steelhead, or whatever, to aim for the head and not get the entire fly in its mouth.  The portion that would be hanging out is the part containing the hook point.  In other words, the fish struck the fly, but was hooked outside of the mouth from an outside in direction simply because of the way the fly was taken.

Jim-
the nut gauge was at just over 100 that day
its a 10.5' 4/5wt 18' SA skagit extreme head with 6' of T-10
those pictures are a mix of nikon and olympus

Dar
while i totally agree on fish attacking the head of a streamer, it is different when fishing a tight line swung fly
the fish doesn't see the front of the fly... at most maybe only 20* of the fly from behind... the movement and look of materials from the rear perspective is what gets the fish
thats why the hook placement is so far back... the eats come from the rear

kev,

would you say the same happened with this fish?? I only had a 4 ft. section, not sure the size, but the fish def. hit this fly at the end of the swing.. it was no "floss"

dar
if you throw a bend in your belly, you can present a broad sided fly... which will get that head eat

but, with the fly i was fishing, a broad side presentation would push the materials the wrong way and have the hook way out of the strike zone
with stringer hooks, I'm sure I've had eats that where not in the hook and the fish swiping cause the hook to set outside of the mouth....
but i would say that all these fish come unbuttoned before that can be landed