Boating ?'s

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2011/04/16 22:34:44 (permalink)

Boating ?'s

Im new to boating and have not yet put in the water till next week.Im buying the minn kota endura 50 but i need to know what brand battery to buy that will last awhile before charge but dont want to spend alot on it.Also what is the light requirements for a 14ft on places like donegal,greenlick,laural hill lake at night?Anything else you can tell me would be nice.I need to buy everything but the boat and trailer.
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/16 23:21:40 (permalink)
    "Also what is the light requirements for a 14ft on places like donegal,greenlick,laural hill lake at night?"

    Why rely on second hand information? READ the book. Every new boater should. And since you were born after 1982, you are required to pass a boater's saftey course/test anyway.

    http://fishandboat.com/regs_boat.htm
    post edited by spoonchucker - 2011/04/16 23:26:15

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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 00:24:49 (permalink)
    Is the boater's safety certificate needed on boats under 25HP??????????


    You need a red/green bow light and white or clear stern/anchor light when moving.
    Just the stern/anchor light when not moving.
    They make lights that take 2 D batteries-Most are junk.
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 01:00:15 (permalink)
    My bad Marty ( thought it was ANY motorized boat ), and the reaon I discourage folks from relying on second hand information.

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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 02:00:34 (permalink)
    and the reaon I discourage folks from relying on second hand information.


    I am not sure about the light requirement with just an electric trolling motor.
    What I stated above was for powered craft.

    Oar powered only needed a handheld light than can be turned on to warn nearby traffic.

    It might be time for me to retake the class or at least read the books.
    Passed 2 other times around 10 and almost 20 years ago
    I bought a bunch of the student and instructor books a few years ago at an estate sale and still have my older books.

    During the first class the instructor asked everyone if they had a boat, what size it was and how many horsepower.
    Do not ask if they mean with the nitrous oxide on or off.
    20' cathedral hull jet boat with big block and NO2 is not something they like


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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 04:17:00 (permalink)
    **** spoonchucker maybe practice what you preach READ THE BOOK!Also that is what i got outta reading the boat on the lights but i havent had the chance yet to go look at any.
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 04:18:42 (permalink)
    OK so nobody want to take a stab at the Minn Kota question ? I will. Your Endursa 50 is a 41 amp motor. If you bought a deep cycle battery with a 120 amp per hour rating you could go 3 hrs until it was completely drained. You should discharge a deep cycle down to 80 % for max life not completely drained.There is no such thing as a cheap long lasting battery. The true deep cycles cost more than a Start/deep cycle are are your best choice for a TM. Look for the highest amp per hour rating that you can afford.Remember the higher the APH, the more run time you will have. Do yourself a favor and get a Minn Kota hand held battery meter so you know the remaining charge in your battery. Sure beats paddling. AO
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 04:23:13 (permalink)
    Thank you outdoor that was helpful.I will add a battery meter to my list.
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 04:26:47 (permalink)
    A 14 ft boat is over 7 meters so you are required to have bow and stern lights after dark. No hand helds. OA
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 06:33:37 (permalink)
    Thought a meter was a little over three feet (like around 39 inches) so wouldn't a 7 meter boat be like 20 some feet?
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 07:35:33 (permalink)
    4. something is 14 ft.
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 07:42:05 (permalink)
    Hear ya go lilfishy http://www.boat-ed.com/pa/ You should do this online coarse. It has all the info on boating in PA!!!! It only cost $34.50 Is worth the money to know the do's and don'ts of boating. It can be completed in good rain day. On the battery you can get any with wallyworld batteries (EVERLAST marine) they will last for quite a few hours before having to recharge. If your planning on trolling all day other than moving spot to spot. Then You should buy 2 batteries and run them together they will handle about all the fishing you can. As far as the nav lights buy permanent lights they will pay for them self after a couple times out.You can buy all you need for about $30.00's. The flashlight nav's bite!!!! P.S. OA it stating that the 120amp will last 3 hours BUT THAT"S IF YOU RUN top speed of the trolling motor Dave
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 09:21:56 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bronzeback2

    Thought a meter was a little over three feet (like around 39 inches) so wouldn't a 7 meter boat be like 20 some feet?


    My bad, 7 meters is 23'. I did my math as 23". I apologize for the error. Being that your 14ft boat has a trolling motor is is considered powered and is still required to have nav and stern light.The ones that are exempt are non-powered vessels, such as canoes, kayaks, rowboats, and sailboats under 7 meters in length are not required to have lights installed, and may use a flashlight for navigation. The light does not have to be turned on at all times, but should be turned on in time to avoid a collision.

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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 09:35:48 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: BIGHEAD

    Hear ya go lilfishy http://www.boat-ed.com/pa/ You should do this online coarse. It has all the info on boating in PA!!!! It only cost $34.50 Is worth the money to know the do's and don'ts of boating. It can be completed in good rain day. On the battery you can get any with wallyworld batteries (EVERLAST marine) they will last for quite a few hours before having to recharge. If your planning on trolling all day other than moving spot to spot. Then You should buy 2 batteries and run them together they will handle about all the fishing you can. As far as the nav lights buy permanent lights they will pay for them self after a couple times out.You can buy all you need for about $30.00's. The flashlight nav's bite!!!! P.S. OA it stating that the 120amp will last 3 hours BUT THAT"S IF YOU RUN top speed of the trolling motor Dave


    You are correct. 41 amp would be the peak draw amperage. Lower speeds will draw less and have less amperage. You would need to know the amperage draw of each speed and figure your amp hours from there.
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 11:07:45 (permalink)
    Yes, you will be fine with a Walmart Marine Batt. Id get the 29 Series one there. $92 i think they are. Just keep up on the maintainence of the batt. ...Deep
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 11:37:36 (permalink)
    i always have a stern and navigation lights lit at all times when on lakes with motorized boats. just want to make sure everyone sees me. had a buddy almost run over a boat at night on Pigeon lake with no lights on.  always be on the safe side.
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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 13:27:44 (permalink)
    LED bow and anchor lights cost more but use a lot less power.

    Around 20 years ago I went to a seminar on Sun automotive analyzers.
    During the part about battery testers the instructor stated that almost all batteries were made by 3 manufacturers and just had different labels.
    Not sure how much that has changed but batteries are getting much better and some warranties are much longer.
    Even on a seep cycle I would buy the one with the longest warranty if there is a difference.


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    RE: Boating ?'s 2011/04/17 16:54:37 (permalink)
    Well ended up getting just a stoyaway 27 battery for now and see how it works for me.So i will be running a 14 ft with a minn kotta endura 50.That should move it pretty good.Still need lights but the gander mountain in greensburg is pretty ****ty on boating.Had to order online and ship to the store because they didnt have any there.
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