CSX Roads Gated

I fished wills today and been doing it for about 5 years.It didnt seem like many fish in it for the last 2 years.The only hole that had some fish in it was the bridge as soon as you come down into glencoe.I might be looking for a new place next year.

I just have to ask - are these gates on property that is owned by the Railroad?
And when these gates are closed, they block access to property that is owned by the Railroad?

The gate that has our members blocked is on our landowners property. The R/R has a deeded right of way thru it to access their property. We ask for a key as was told that we had to "take it up with someone else". Can't imagine losing the stocking of fish and fishing access from Falls Cut to the county bridge in the state game lands. As for less fish; I did help stock on the 4 th. and I believe the numbers were lower than past stockings.To give you a comparison of states stocking the same stream; let me give you some numbers. Wills creek from Falls Cut tunnel to Mance is roughly 5 miles of stream to be stocked with about 3,600 or less fish. In Maryland the same stream is stocked from Elerslie to outside of Cumberland; which is about 2 to 3 miles with 7,400 fish. Plus Maryland does something that I wish Pa. would do. They close the stream for two weeks each time it is stocked. No truck followers at all.

ORIGINAL: henhouse

The gate that has our members blocked is on our landowners property. The R/R has a deeded right of way thru it to access their property. We ask for a key as was told that we had to "take it up with someone else".

I'd cut the thing down then, but that's me.

Used to have a ball on that creek when I was in HS/early college.  They always stocked some absolute hogs in there.  I haven't fished it in a several years though, sounds like a shame. 
 
take D's advice and cut the dam thing down.
 
On a Side Note....
You should see the videos on Youtube of kids jumping into Falls Cut.

nothing bolt cutters can't handle until they allow access to your own property... should be a shared agreement w/ the landowner and the RR if it is indeed actually his property and not just off the property line.

To all; Our property owner is checking on what agreements were in place when they bought the land. Wills creek is between the access road and the tracks. It(the road) is a good 80 yards from the R/R tracks. Also heard the latest from the talk between the R/R and the PFBC about access to stock these blocked areas. This is the reply from the R/R. They are willing to let the PFBC use these roads to stock fish; "BUT", do not want anyone trespassing on their property. How in the heck does anyone fish these areas without crossing over the tracks? The fish comm. doesn't want to lose the stream if we P.O. the R/R. My point to them is; you already lost it as far as access goes. Then why even stock it? From Falls Cut to the county bridge in the state game land will be affected. These areas have been open to the public to fish since I was 12, and before, I'm now 64.

Hopefully the members do own the property and the railroad is making a mistake. If I were to guess the railroad did its homework and closed there road. Again hopefully for the property owners and the fishermen the railroad is wrong. If the railroad does own the property I would be trying to work out a lease for access which would protect them from liability which is likely what has driven there decision to close this road. When I bought my house and started clearing the land/back yard with a dozer I had neighbors telling me where the property lines were and calling the police saying I was destroying there property. After a survey that included pinning the property lines one of the neighbors lost 30' of there yard, the other has a house built 5 feet onto my property and another cut trees on my property for firewood (which is the neighbor saying I was pushing his trees over. So many times property lines and boundaries are mistaken through the years and somewhere along the line somebody gets a survey and surprises everyone. Hopefully the railroad will be the surprised one in this case. I think I have a neighbor at my cabin that put a driveway on my property on my secondary septic site. We know for sure his driveway is on the septic site just haven't paid a surveyor yet to determine if it's on my property. Things like this happen too often.

Suggestion: Why not get members or owners to pitch in and pay for a survey to find out who's property the gate is on and if it's a railroad access road? Thats the first thing I would do just so I know where the lines are.