outboard problem

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2011/03/30 00:37:08 (permalink)

outboard problem

guys i have a 9.9 horse mercury that will not stay running when it is at idle,the motor will stay running at idle with the choke on but as soon you take it off the motor quits. it also wont stay running at a slow trolling speed it will for about 3 seconds then putt right out. any help would be great.
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    pghmarty
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 02:04:12 (permalink)
    fuel line and/or bulb


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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 06:05:16 (permalink)
    One of the first thing i do when getting a new motor is buy the work manual. They are like 35$ and worth every penny.

    Like pgh said check the fuel line first thats easy. Also check the spark plugs for condition, connection to the wire, spark plug gap, wire to the coil. All very easy things to check.

    Next check compression, you might be low on one or both cylinders, hopefully you do not have a cracked reed (i doubt but maybe) at this stage i would not check that, last resort would i do a test to check that.

    If that does not fix it, get a carb rebuild kit. With basics tool, and a little thinking (help with a manual) you can rebuild the carb. The manual will have you reset the carb to factory setting so you will have a great point to start when tuning it in.

    If that did not work, it would be time for a link-n-synk. This would involve putting all the adjustments back to factory (carb, adjustable timing, shifting) I have done this before to a 90hp tower of power 6cylinder, it seems daunting but really isnt bad at all. i had my manual to walk me through it. You will need a timing light, bought or borrowed, this helped me out a ton with my motor. Because the timing could be advanced a little tomuch to keep idle.

    PM me if you need more help.

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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 07:05:44 (permalink)
    Rooster, sounds like your pilot jet in the carb is partially blocked. Disassemble and clean.
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 08:16:16 (permalink)
    Sounds like a carb problem.  You can go over to www
    iboats.com and they have dirctions on how to shock the carb system with seafoam.
    Had an old 64 Johnson that had the same problem.  Did as they said and it works fine now, didn't have to take the carb off and do a rebuild.
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 08:18:13 (permalink)
    Idle circuit in the carb is varnished/tarnished.
    Carb needs to be opened up, soaked and blown out.
    While you're at it, put in new float needle and seat...some of the older Merc inlets don't deal well with the eth. in the fuel. 
     
    You might want to replace the fuel lines (yes, even the internal ones under the cover) if they are more than 5 years old...ethanol really ruins the older Merc rubber lines.
    You might wan to throw in a fuel pump diaphragm just to add some extra "ethanol security"!

    On the internet, EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion!
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 08:47:55 (permalink)
    The fact that it runs with the choke on eliminate compression and spark as the problem. I would agree with the post that suggest it is the carbs idle circuit.

    I had a similar problem with a Johnson and removed and disassembled the carb and soaked it for 20 minutes in the 1 gallon Gunk can you can buy at Auto Zone for $20.00.

    After 30 minutes it is clean and strips away all varnish and carbon etc. It ran perfectly when I was done.
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 13:15:32 (permalink)
    thanks guys another thing that the motor does is it will putt around when you have full throttle then after its doing that for a while it will start to run,but as i said as soon as you slow back down to a no wake speed it will stall right out.
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 15:07:07 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: 3006savage

    The fact that it runs with the choke on eliminate compression and spark as the problem. I would agree with the post that suggest it is the carbs idle circuit.



    Can definitely eliminate spark, but not compression. I can tell you this from too much personal experience...

    His problem is most likely carb related...
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 19:19:35 (permalink)
    ok i am thinking its carb to with all of you saying this and some other ppl.what should be my first step?
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 21:00:44 (permalink)
    Your "first step"? - depends on you!

    Do you want it fixed for you or do you want to fix it yourself?
    ...if you want it fixed for you, take it to an outboard shop!

    ...if you have a few mechanical skills and want to do it yourself, buy a service manual and a gasket kit, spend an evening doing some reading, then the next evening do some disassembly and cleaning!

    Outboard carbs. aren't really the "Genie in a bottle" to be feared as lots of people think...ALSO, there usually isn't a quick fix to solve their ills.

    Out of curiosity, how old is this outboard?

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    RE: outboard problem 2011/03/30 22:06:29 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: rooster

    thanks guys another thing that the motor does is it will putt around when you have full throttle then after its doing that for a while it will start to run,but as i said as soon as you slow back down to a no wake speed it will stall right out.

    This problem sounds very much like a partially plugged main jet. By what you describing the carb needs to be disassemble and cleaned both the pilot and main.Pilot affecting the idle and low rpm range and the main controlling top end range. Be careful as to the type of solvent used.Erie Mako gave some good advise as to what else you might want to consider replacing.
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/04/03 18:32:53 (permalink)
    Motor that runs with the choke on but not off is most likeley sucking air somewhere replace ALL hoses.

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/04/04 00:47:10 (permalink)
    The choke butterfly is mounted at the rear of the carb intake throat.When the choke is closed there is a restriction in the area through which air enters the carburetor. This restriction in space lowers the amount of air coming into the carburetor. At the same time, the pressure in the carburetor lowers, pulling in more fuel through the pilot jet to the combustion chamber. A partially clogged pilot jet cause the motor to stall until the air ratio is decreased by closing the choke and upping the flow through the pilot jet. If this is beyond your capabilities remove carb and have some one clean it thoroughly for you. While carb is open may as well set the fuel bowl float level as well.Check for a worn needle and seat also. Replace any lines that may of deteriorated.



    post edited by Outdoor Adventures - 2011/04/04 00:50:17
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/04/04 15:40:16 (permalink)
    fuel restricted clean carb rr any bad hoses
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/04/15 11:12:21 (permalink)
    carb is messed up. if you have someone rebuild it wont be more than 100 bucks. Ive always had a mechanic rebuild mine because i dont think i have the skill or patience. Id worry about the fuel lines after it is running and you have some more time and can replace them soon but at your own leisure. but thats my opinion on the fuel lines
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    RE: outboard problem 2011/04/15 11:19:03 (permalink)
    Thing is that when a fuel line starts to deteriorate, it does from the inside thus small particles entering the fuel system and putting you back to where you started. A dirty carb.
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