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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 13:22:16
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Just the fact that guy said FLOATING a nymph underneath a BOBBER kinda shows how much fly fishing he has done..just sayin
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 14:20:09
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TeamBA and Seven mile you do realize your bragging about catching stockies right?
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 15:06:07
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I am not trying to start a fight here but last time i checked the Delayed Harvest said artificials only, so that would include spinners of any sort. If they had a problem with the hook size then they would specify it in the rules which they dont. The problem is that these fly fishermen think that they own the stream when in reality it is used for public recreation. i spinner fish this stream and i am in my late teenage years myself and most of the time you get dirty looks from fly fishermen because they look down upon you because your a spinner fisherman. What they dont realize is we are just as talented as them and it takes just as much skill if not even more skill then floating a nymph with a bobber, as far as im concerned they could go bluegill fishing and have the same rush. Just to add, 270wbmag, you were that kid once too trying to hook in to trout when you were younger. Just remember that.
first off 270mag just gave an opinion what he thinks and why.
he was not saying spin fishermen can't fish there.
next if you think that a spin fishermen is more skillfull than a fly guy for trout you have never been fly fishing to know any better. it takes more skill just to learn how to cast a fly rod and fly properly than to throw a gadget from a spinning rod!!
i was a teenager too and used a spinning rod so i've done both.
glad to see you feel so highly of yourself. confidence catches more fish than dumb luck!!
hit that one on the head dt, i just started fly fishing in october and im still trying to get it down, it definetly takes more skill to flyfish and more patience
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 15:15:28
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Logan, im glad someone finally said that. Ive been thinking it all along.
Team BA and 7mile, I am glad you love to fish, and glad you catch fish. It is fun stuff, no doubt about it.
But please save us the numbers-ESPECIALLY when you are talking about catching that many right after it was stocked with pellethead trout that will hit anything. You said yourself that it was stocked on the 21st. You fished the 22nd and 23rd. Of course you're going to catch a lot of fish. Im honestly glad you did. But keep the numbers to yourself, it's not a big deal.
As for what takes more skill, fly fishing is clearly more difficult. That DOES NOT mean that spin fisherman are worse, and flyguys are better. Both methods of fishing are great. But there is no comparison between the two as far as skill level.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 18:18:06
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ok well all i am saying is that just because we spinner fish doesnt mean that we dont know anything about trout fishing. I hate the people that just think they own the creek and that they deserve respect just because they flyfish. and as far as everyone ripping us to peaces i dont hear any other numbers from anyone else? yes we caught 70 in two days(more like a few hours after classes) havent heard any more than that yet? if catching them is so easy right out of the truck then why arent these more skilled fly fisherman posting mindfreak numbers? And if you fly fisherman are so serious we would have seen you all there at 6 am when we were. Also i love how just because we posted something about buffalo creek you only assume that we catch stokies. we fish up north for most of the year the only reason we are fishing the buffalo is because the true season hasnt started. we fish the east branch of the clarion and alot of streams up in kane where the fish hold over and we do native fishing up there aswell. Also the other two people that we fish with are extremely talented fly fishermen so dont act like i was born yesterday and havent been around it. All im asking is for the specific ones who think they are a superior race or something to get off their high horse and realize we can catch fish too.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 18:30:19
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ORIGINAL: 270wbmag
fished buffalo del.hav.yesterday, fish were scarce, water low and clear..caught 3 rainbows on matukas. talked with guy said 20 people have been caught poaching, my opinion, should not let spinning fisherman fish in delayed harvest, they are throwing big trebble hooks compared to small single hooks on flies, they want to fish early, let the fish commission give them a stream all to themselves..while fishing below one bridge, too youngens came stomping in and started throwing lures at our feet and crossing our lines, just plain ignorant, not saying all are ingorant, but these two needed to go swimming...probable tick a few of you guys off, but would rather have a size 18 hook in your finger or a 6 trebble hook?????...these trout that are hooked become very spooky after being hooked afew times and might die..Buy a fly rod and learn how to use it..more fun..and takes more skill...
So was it the gear they were using, or was it the particular "youngens" that were fishing?
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 18:33:50
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oh and sorry for my dumbfounded spinnerfisherman termonology. how does this sound to the hierarchy of the fishing world "a awsome most, skilled roll cast into the current with my prince nymph underneath my EZ trout float / indicator" how does that sound to the o-so-more skilled flyfisherman? and yes i know that nymphs dont float im not living under a rock. they represent the larvae of the hatch of flies the trout are feeding on at certain times of the year. only dryfly patterns float.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 19:12:26
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TeamBA relax this comes up every year, some flyguy runs into a mouthbreathing spin fisherman in a DHALO section of creek and vents about it here. I would not be too concerned about someone who only catches 3 fish on a creek that was loaded up a week ago says. I was there sunday evening, plenty of fish and they were more than willing to cooperate with this simple spin fisherman.
As for the skill required for fly fishing, I don't think it really takes much to learn to roll cast and fish for stockies in Pa, being consistently succesfull with other species can be more challenging.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 19:17:43
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Since your other thread is locked TeamBA I can tell you one way to catch big numbers of stockies on spin equipment is learn to fish and tie jigs, they can be lethal once you get the hang of it.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 19:18:24
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Nobody really cares how many trout you caught to be honest with you, most people are satisfied to catch 2 or 3 sometimes, and others care more about quality then quanity, and if you don't have thick skin on this board and take some heat I suggest you go somewhere else cause threads like this are going to get some rough replies and most of these guys on here know a ton about fishing (any kind of fishing) but don't talk down on other people cause you will get bashed hardcore on here and just cause u said u caught 70 fish doesn't mean you actually did and not one person on here believes it till u have some serious proof....... and if you like to follow the stocking truck around and catch fish that's fine but expect to get ripped on
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 19:31:22
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ok well if you want quality fish as far as trout dont fish in PA because unless you travel north and catch natives you arent going to get anything of quality so i suggest you move west where native browns and such still exist. Also if your not out to catch numbers idk why you would call yourself a fisherman, fisherman like to catch fish, if they didnt game&fish commission wouldnt stock, therefore if you were to ask if you would rather catch 70 in two days or 2-3 "quality" fish every fisherman is going to say 70. Also thats taking pride in what you do. we didnt boast about it until someone started making derogatory comments as far as our skill. As far as being thick skinned im the one sticking up for myself arent i? and as far as following the stocking truck we NEVER said that, yes we wanted to shake off the cabin fever and get our new set ups in the water. we are serious fisherman so we went early, plus just because they put them in the water doesnt mean you are going to catch alot. we do have skill and i dont need your "forum" pat on the back for catching 70 fish. we did it and we know it and thats all that matters
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 19:54:54
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ok well if you want quality fish as far as trout dont fish in PA because unless you travel north and catch natives you arent going to get anything of quality so i suggest you move west where native browns and such still exist. Also if your not out to catch numbers idk why you would call yourself a fisherman, fisherman like to catch fish, if they didnt game&fish commission wouldnt stock, therefore if you were to ask if you would rather catch 70 in two days or 2-3 "quality" fish every fisherman is going to say 70. Also thats taking pride in what you do. we didnt boast about it until someone started making derogatory comments as far as our skill. As far as being thick skinned im the one sticking up for myself arent i? and as far as following the stocking truck we NEVER said that, yes we wanted to shake off the cabin fever and get our new set ups in the water. we are serious fisherman so we went early, plus just because they put them in the water doesnt mean you are going to catch alot. we do have skill and i dont need your "forum" pat on the back for catching 70 fish. we did it and we know it and thats all that matters
Again proving your lack of knowledge...there are plenty of wild/native fish in the area. The yough holds a lot of "wild" trophy fish. Various streams in state college hold wild fish that can get sizeable. I'm guessing you have never heard of the delaware either? Some monster browns in there, as well as the upper allegheny. Catching numbers of stocked pelletheads really isnt and accomplishment to me and I don't see how you catching 70 fish makes you anymore of a fisherman than someone who catches 3...your both fishing, hence you are fishermen. I caught 5 trout stockies on a dry in under 10min a week ago, then preceded to move out of the way, gave a novice a fly and coached him while he gave it a shot. Could I have sat there and caught more? yes could I have put a sub surface pattern on and caught 30? probably. Its just not fun, like shooting fish in a barrel. I would rather help someone out and teach them than continue to reel in fish after fish. I would take 2 or 3 quality wild fish over 70 in two days for the rest of my life. I'm not saying either way is right or wrong but people fish for different reasons and just because you catch 70 pellet heads in 2 days doesnt make you more of a fisherman than someone who would rather catch quality fish. As for whats more challenging, come with me to fish wilds sometime, on top, I will provide all the gear you need. Presenting a dry to wild trout is a lot different that plunking your spinner in the water and ripping it back to you and I assure you a lot more challenging. As far a nymphing goes, no there really isnt a difference between spin vs fly and neither requires much skill to catch a pellethead. Congrats on the 70 fish, seriously if thats what your goal is then good for you.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 21:10:20
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well sorry Dr. Trout i didnt know that you were a trout scholar. And i also sincerely appologize for my "lack of knowledge". you were bashing me of my knowledge by saying "Again proving your lack of knowledge...there are plenty of wild/native fish in the area." when clearly in the post above i said go up north and catch natives. Natives ARE quality fish not these stocked trout that barely have any color and are 12 inches. thats not a quality trout. and as far as you using dry flies for native trout, though it is cool it makes no difference to me, there is alot of finess to be learned and skill in spinner fishing as well and im willing to bet i can catch just as many natives as you with the set up i have been using. you bash us for catching stockies when you stated in the post above "I caught 5 trout stockies on a dry in under 10min a week ago". so all we are saying is yes they are only stockies but we did catch 70. and if you are so gung-ho about catching only quality fish then why were you trying to catch stockies anyway. so dont talk down to me because i am a spinnerfisherman. we are the same type and have the same ideals. Dont act like i dont know what a native is because i can assure you i do, and now that i know you do fish for stockies as well you know that even though it is easier than natives 70 is still an impressive number. And as far as taking your fly fishing lessons i will never do that because i would never want to turn into a the stuck up d-bag the flyfisherman i run into are.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 21:24:58
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I'm not talking about native brookies here...I'm talking about wild fish...again you're off base. I'm not knocking you, I just said its nothing to brag about. Relax...
Yes I fish for stockies, I'm not bashing you for fishing for stockies...again Im saying 30 freshly stocked fish in a day isn't hard.
Good luck on your goal of 1000 dude, seriously...
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/30 23:55:30
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To say that all fly fishermen are snobby and look down on spinners is the same as complaining about fly guys hogging the creek and thinking they own it. In one sentence your complaining about fly guys and the next your complaining about us complaining about you??
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 00:06:58
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to say all fly fisherman are stuck up and snobby is the same as saying all bait fisherman are snaggers who keep their limit everytime...you are talking about the minority not most guys...we are all out there tryin to do the same thing so i mean if someone wants to go catch 50 stockies then sweet man good for you...personally i find more enjoyment in hiking up some stream and catching less fish but they are wild and beautiful..to each his own
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 00:16:08
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I hate the people that just think they own the creek and that they deserve respect just because they flyfish. and as far as everyone ripping us to peaces i dont hear any other numbers from anyone else? yes we caught 70 in two days(more like a few hours after classes) havent heard any more than that yet? if catching them is so easy right out of the truck then why arent these more skilled fly fisherman posting mindfreak numbers? And if you fly fisherman are so serious we would have seen you all there at 6 am when we were. You guys werent there at 6 am. You pulled in at 7 am. Once your caught in a lie, nobody will believe a word you say. Your not hearing a bunch of numbers because not everyone is out there to record numbers. Yes, all of us are out there to catch fish. That doesnt mean that we keep a count. It takes alot of the fun out of it when numbers become the only concern. There are way too many things in this country that are based solely on the "I gotta have the most" mentality. There are many guys just on Buffalo that could put up big numbers (both fly and lure), but would rather just catch fish and enjoy themselves doing it. If you want to keep track of numbers, more power to you. But to say that your the most serious about it because you caught 70 in 2 days, come on.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 00:39:43
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to say all fly fisherman are stuck up and snobby is the same as saying all bait fisherman are snaggers who keep their limit everytime...you are talking about the minority not most guys...we are all out there tryin to do the same thing so i mean if someone wants to go catch 50 stockies then sweet man good for you...personally i find more enjoyment in hiking up some stream and catching less fish but they are wild and beautiful..to each his own
Nick
Wait...all bait fishermen aren't snaggerzzzzzzz? and they don't keep their limit everytime? 
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 00:43:09
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ORIGINAL: TeamBATroutSlayerz
I hate the people that just think they own the creek and that they deserve respect just because they flyfish. and as far as everyone ripping us to peaces i dont hear any other numbers from anyone else? yes we caught 70 in two days(more like a few hours after classes) havent heard any more than that yet? if catching them is so easy right out of the truck then why arent these more skilled fly fisherman posting mindfreak numbers? And if you fly fisherman are so serious we would have seen you all there at 6 am when we were.
You guys werent there at 6 am.
You pulled in at 7 am. Once your caught in a lie, nobody will believe a word you say.
Your not hearing a bunch of numbers because not everyone is out there to record numbers. Yes, all of us are out there to catch fish. That doesnt mean that we keep a count. It takes alot of the fun out of it when numbers become the only concern. There are way too many things in this country that are based solely on the "I gotta have the most" mentality. There are many guys just on Buffalo that could put up big numbers (both fly and lure), but would rather just catch fish and enjoy themselves doing it. If you want to keep track of numbers, more power to you. But to say that your the most serious about it because you caught 70 in 2 days, come on.
70 stockies is somewhat beleiveable between two guys in two days..I mean thats like what 17 each both days? But I agree who counts or can keep track on a banner day? I know I had a good day when I lose count
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 01:09:16
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Im not doubting the numbers, just saying that to say that they are MORE SERIOUS about fishing because they were there at 6 am and caught 70 in 2 days is stupid.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 01:15:00
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hahaha..wellll they only dont keep their limit when they dont catch 5 how about that
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 07:28:34
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With those 70 fish you caughht, could have made for some good FLATHEAD BAIT LOL maybe I'll come up and load up on bait seeya @500am Dave
KEEP"EM SCREAM"EM DAVE ONLY CHILDERN and WOMAN use ALWIVES FOR STRIPER BAIT
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 07:32:00
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OH BTW I'll be the one with the throw net and I'll show ya some still LOLOL Dave
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 09:02:59
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"Again proving your lack of knowledge" buffalo creek is delayed harvest so you cant take any fish out . plus im not into eating fish id rather let them go to catch them another day and honestly i kept less than 5 fish last year between my dad and I.(he likes to grill them). And you guys are saying how i shouldnt complain about fly fisherman saying they are better but all you have done is tell me about how much better and more impressive it is, so really you just backed up what i was saying. Anyways im done arguing about this dumb stuff anymore. HOPE THIS IS A GREAT YEAR FOR FISHING.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 09:05:31
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BTW anyone know when trout unlimited stocks buffalo next?
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 09:20:16
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"Again proving your lack of knowledge" buffalo creek is delayed harvest so you cant take any fish out . plus im not into eating fish id rather let them go to catch them another day and honestly i kept less than 5 fish last year between my dad and I.(he likes to grill them). And you guys are saying how i shouldnt complain about fly fisherman saying they are better but all you have done is tell me about how much better and more impressive it is, so really you just backed up what i was saying. Anyways im done arguing about this dumb stuff anymore. HOPE THIS IS A GREAT YEAR FOR FISHING.
He was joking, cool your tool. Sounds like your a little jealous of fly fishermen 
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 10:07:05
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nobody said anything about being better than you because they are flyfishing, nobody said it doesnt take skill to do either one of them, all people are saying is not everyone does the same thing... some like to catch quanity while others like quality, and you do have "lack of knowledge" because you have never been flyfishing and refuse to do it because you think all of them are d-bags, well ive been spinning for a long time and decided to give flyfishing a try in october and it does take more skill than spinning whether u believe it or not, and its much more beautiful to watch a trout whether it be stocked or wild or native come up and slurp your dry off the surface and most anglers would agree with me, i saw a trout take a dry for the first time last week and it truely was a beautiful sight, so honestly you can keep catching your 70 trout on a panther martin ill stick to the more beautiful parts of fishing and enjoy the sights of flyfishing for trout and being happy with 5 trout whether its stocked or wild or native because in my opinion 5 fish days are great on any water and sometimes one fish days are good on a trout stream esp in the winter when you have been fishing days upon days and not catching anything and a big brown takes your fly. dont call flyfishermen snobs or anything else, we fish for the same reason you do, the thrill
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 10:27:38
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they stocked cool spring creek yesterday. go gett'm before they can hide!
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 11:33:21
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You guys are funny, or pathetic, not sure which yet. Everyone has the right to enjoy the streams in their own manner, whether it be spinning or fly fishing. To argue about it is nuts. Have fun and good luck to all.
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RE: Buffalo Creek
2011/03/31 12:05:30
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they stocked cool spring creek yesterday. go gett'm before they can hide!
shoot, i didnt know those fish hid...... i better change up my tactics!
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