new fish

Hey guys - have been away for a week or so but just read DSR report about NEW fish entering the system on expected high water.
     I may have started an episode a few weeks ago  about new  looking fish in late spawn season and believed they had just come in. Dime was saying that after they spawn they get new looking again on the way out  while getting back in shape and he sees it commonly down in DSR  fishing drops. Guys went back and forth on it a bit.
     Didnt say much at the time but I fish high in the feeders a lot during spawn as well as upper river and NOT down below. Thats where I see the new looking stuff. A LOT newer than what Im catching in the  cold. Not all the fish -but some of them and in the early spawn way up too- not just later when dropping.
     Just for the sake of an opinion being thrown around -If they are expected in the next week or so , Welll-mid April aint that far off.
    Look how  "late" some of the Hos and Sharks have been coming around. Was up 2 weeks ago and some of the dead HOS had just died a few days before.
   Not one of those guys who cant let go when wrong but this one still has me guessing

Hi Dime;
  Both I guess- and neither is a bad thing- like you said this river is Great.
  BTW - still believing some of those late steel are very fresh as they are on the beds and or moving up.

hi i made it back from israel i dont like the way they fish over there but oh well had to try it. im heading up this tue wed. got two days off from work any word on if they are going to slow down the flow for the week or do i have to fish the altmar area any hints on where else to go let me know ( i dont have any more time off till april and it has been a long winter)

   Guess we are getting quite lucky with the snow melt and big rain coming in mid  March instead of April.  Hopefully the major floods and real high water will be in the next couple of weeks instead of during the spawning period.   Suppose the Steel that hasn't come in yet will do it  on this high stuff.  Couldnt imagine it much better than my last frozen trip or two but - who knows.
  Any guesses on this stuff causing the spawn to happen a bit early. Would think if the majority of snow melts early the water may warm earlier too. The water seemed to warm real quick last year and the spawn on my favorite feeder spot was REAL quick- didnt last at all- fish came in and it seemed like just a day or two and they were running out. Never saw so many beds show up so quick.

The water will be down to base flow in early May(per FERC agreement)--can't remember the exact date---after that it only takes a couple of warm days to really get the water temp up.

Last year this time there was no snow on the ground at all mostly... we had already had a few days above 70 aswell. Most tribs atthis time last year were holding spawning fish and yes by mid april there was not enough water in them to hold too many of them. Metal is right with the base flow but let's hope there is more water this year than last.hey retired; im gonna send you a pm so check your mailbox.

Hey Dime, I read that you are going up- Good Luck.I just got back to my real job in the big city.Figured I could stash some Steel Cash but $500.00 into truck breakdown and $400.00 into dog X-Rays. He (Diesel) ate his bone. Not chewed on it- ATE IT. A couple of weeks before I can go,please keep us posted.The next best thing to being there.I am interested in ice out on smaller waters. Appreciate any info anybody has. Thanks.

3/14
   Just read where the river's down to 1800 so checked the Web Cam.
Still looks high downtown, must still  be a lot of runoff happening along the river.. Looks like coffee too. I hate that high muddy stuff. Nasty Nasty

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Hey Dime, I read that you are going up- Good Luck.I just got back to my real job in the big city.Figured I could stash some Steel Cash but $500.00 into truck breakdown and $400.00 into dog X-Rays. He (Diesel) ate his bone. Not chewed on it- ATE IT. A couple of weeks before I can go,please keep us posted.The next best thing to being there.I am interested in ice out on smaller waters. Appreciate any info anybody has. Thanks.

hey pete, I was up but didn't fish. I saw plentyof fished hooked though even when it was around 4000 on saturday. We hopped the fence to the hatchery to see what was going on there and beaver dam and the fish ladder was holding a few thousand fish. So if anyone is wondering where the large numbers of fish are... hi.t hint ...as for water levels and future... surprisingly they didn't get too much rain last week and supposedly they were running excessive water to thaw the gates. As for future levels... I went up to salmon river falls and there was betteen 2 and 3 feet of packed snow you could walk on top of. There was between 1 and 2 foot on my property... I imagine even more in redfield and theadirondacks supposedly got fresh snow over the weekend. So.... definitely watch the weather andwater closely because there's still the makings for some major flooding. On saturday I walked a little no name creek near my property and found a pair spawned out cohoes which is the latest I've ever seen. Still rubbing up on each other... and also a 15+ steely in its lonesome. As for the tribs, orwell and trout were at primelevels.. I didn't check the Dandys but I imagine they are running at perfect turquoise color by now. Good luck to all...

Checked out the WEB CAM and it looks like the water is really clearing up -but still a bit up there for my taste.
  Probably cant get up till early Apr.- then crazy back and forth for a few weeks.
   good luck Pete-  Dime , hope you can fish next time.

Hi Randy,
  Thanks for the advise but all tied up with politics right now- annual budget time- hate it but the annual fight lasts a while.
   You wouldnt believe how some people can fight over a lousy few million one way or the other- really cuts into the fishing time.

Eagle- Thats the point- after a while I just wanna go fish- those millions btw - its all for good stuff but too much good stuff is just too much.

PS- been fishing finally. Twice this week. Both days were epic. My boys, daughter and I caught prob. 20 Trouts yesterday. I was out earlier in the week on a local spring creek & did well too. Winter is finally giving in here!

Just got back from 4 days fishing. The bite shut off friday and the guides said it was the worst weekend they have seen in some time. We faired very well with many big browns and one steel. We fished hard and my back and shoulders are killing me but worth the pain. Pink worm small and large took all fish. Fresh eggs took record chubs(50+) but the browns were hitting hard on pink.
Fishon

[code][/code]Hey jonny, was it the lower river you were hitting browns in? I imagine by now that a lot of fish in the river are setting up on gravel. Last weekend I was up and saw a few thousand in the hatchery and beaver dam. A lot of big fish too. Give it a few weeks and let that water temp hit 40.... should be hot... thanks for the report.