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musthuntmusky
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2011/02/23 20:17:28 (permalink)

Oil Creek Grannoms

I see a lot of dudes (bings, taper, etc.) are familiar with the hatch of grannoms when april rolls around. 

Opening this thread to your personal convictions on fishing that hatch effectively.

My own:

first and foremost, if you have ever been standing in the water for this hatch, you will see a lot of shucks/shells floating downstream, and they do rise to them...

anyone else notice this?

Anyway, you find yourself amidst a blizzard hatch, but they aren't taking your high-riding imitation... chances are, these are just below the surface.

Since every fly fisherman thinks you need to match the hatch, you'll most likely be drifting the typical high-riding caddis, however, every other angler is doing the same

... the solution:

don't hackle your caddis (I've come to do this every time I"m fishing a caddis hatch, as it's almost an emerger, and sh1t, very simple to tie; dubbing and deer hair.




I also do well fishing pools that were hit hard by other anglers by throwing a large mayfly... show them a bigger morsel.


and the weirdest fly a few of us spanked them on last year...










post edited by musthuntmusky - 2011/02/23 20:24:58
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    bingsbaits
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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/23 20:26:54 (permalink)
    I trim my hackle on the bottom side very short. Helps them sit a little lower in the water.
    My best Grannom imitation is a size 18 Deer Hair Caddis, the deer hair is dark comparadun hair. They float like a cork..Might have to try a few with out the hackle,one less step.

    I have yet to be on stream in the middle of any really big hatch yet.
    But spring is coming.

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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/23 20:47:14 (permalink)
    a cdc underwing is nice too

    OR
    steely's teabag winged caddis






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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/23 20:50:46 (permalink)
    I don't fish the hatch on oil creek, but I do fish it on my home water (little juniata).

    For the adult I use natural un-dyed cdc for the wing, with black spirit river dubbing for the body.


    I also tie a lot of my grannom dries with a trailing clear antron shuck. I catch more fish on top with this pattern than any other grannom dryfly.


    Brown sparkle pupa's are another go to. During the hatch, I always fish a dry and pupa pattern. Soft hackles work well for this too.

    In the evening, I use egg laying patterns. Basically, one is the same dryfly as the first pic, with a bright green egg sack added to the butt of the fly. Since grannoms dive to lay their eggs, rather than lay them on the surface, a soft hackle with a bright green egg sack on the but works well in the evening, too.
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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/23 21:16:21 (permalink)
    A few on the bridge...





    post edited by thedrake - 2011/02/23 21:19:06
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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/23 22:04:52 (permalink)
    musthuntmusky,
     
    That is not a grannom nor a caddis in your 2nd and 3rd pics.
     
    My top producer is very close to Drakes.
    The only difference is that I clip the butts of the cdc feathers off at the hook eye similar to cutting hair on an EH caddis.
    Yea, I dub a green ball on some, and some have a shuck.
    A hackled EH caddis skittered is still a good pattern to use in between the morning and afternoon hatches.
     
    I had some nice effective underneath patterns that I used to use but now pretty much search for risers.
    I carried beadheaded and ribbed caddis worms for early morning.  Black pheasant and peacock bodied soft hackles for swung and stripped flies.
    A diving caddis pattern is always a good go-to for the evening.
    I still carry a few of each just in case.
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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/23 22:21:13 (permalink)
    This thread has got me thinking about the annual 2011 Oil Creek FishUSA Outing.

    changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes....nothing remains quite the same



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    musthuntmusky
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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/24 12:11:54 (permalink)
    dano,

    I know it's not a grannom, but what is it?

    fish were feeding on them, and the fly under those pics made em' rise.

    drake... I like that pattern and have fished.. the shuck is a great idea.

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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/24 14:57:47 (permalink)
     

    musthuntmusky,
    It's an alderfly.    Very common on the creek. I see em quite a bit crawling around the Petrleum Center Bridge.


    The shuck is a nice idea for emerging caddis and if you were to add a shuck to the pattern in your first pic, it becomes an X-Caddis Pattern.
    Quite a few guys I know swear by the x-caddis.
    post edited by dano - 2011/02/24 15:09:28
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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/24 17:21:18 (permalink)
    thanks man... will surely come in handy.
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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/25 08:16:46 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: musthuntmusky

    thanks man... will surely come in handy.

     
    You could have probably taken it into your local fly shop and got the id on the bug.

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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/25 15:25:18 (permalink)
    i use the xcaddis as often as an EHcaddis and many times have better results.  i plan to add some cdc to the x this year.
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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/25 15:31:29 (permalink)
    or I could have gotten on troutnut ;)
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    RE: Oil Creek Grannoms 2011/02/25 15:37:33 (permalink)
    put a lil greenbut on the end of that grannom have and egg layer

    I didn't say these are the ten suggestions
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