Native trout patterns

DJ: Ive had a lot of luck with a dry pattern called the Brookie Cookie.....jim

Think I found it!

That is an awsome fly I need to find the recipe

#14 stimmie in orange and yellow. Nuff said. If you feel the urge to use something else, a big light colored wulff. I tie em about #12, with a cream/pink body and med ginger hackle...and a lot of it. Really, dries for natives are moreso dries for you. Tie something you can see, that's low maintenance, and will float high and forever. They'll take care of their end.

I don't bother with anything subsurface for them usually, as I've taken them up top from early March with spotty snow on the ground, up until this past november, bustin ice out of my 1wt's guides and still taking them on the stimmy.

ORIGINAL: Cold

#14 stimmie in orange and yellow. Nuff said. If you feel the urge to use something else, a big light colored wulff. I tie em about #12

Could have stopped there. Great advice though.

I could tie some badass flies out of human hair.

I like a size 16 tan caddis dropped with a size 18 beadhead flashback pheasant tail.

Chartruese wolly bugger.....right Skip!

Yep, Indy, it's all about visibility in those conditions. Sometimes the pool is calm enough to fish 'blind' and just strike at a rise in the general vicinity of where your fly should be, but that's the exception rather than the rule on most small freestones.

How bout a pic of that, wonderrod? I think I know what you're getting at. Sounds like a lot of extra work for what's essentially a stimmy...but in about a #10 it could be a killer hopper.

DJ: That's the one I use....jim

Some good advice on this topic so far!

For me, it depends on the actual stream that I am fishing. Some of the native/wild streams that I fish are pretty fertile, having abundant aquatic life and reliable hatches. For those streams, I carry what I think I will encounter for that time of year.

Some of the streams lack significant food sources and its more important not to spook the fish then to figure out what it will eat. For these streams, I stick to a handful of flies. For dries. Stimulators, elk hair caddis, adams parachutes, wulffs, and humpies. Since I am a fan of foam, I have added gurgulators, balloon caddis and monitors to my selection. When it comes to dries, I want something I can see. For subsurface work, I carry three nymphs and two streamers. These rarely ever get used. Pheasant tails, hares ears, and any peacock bodied fly(princes, ptps, zug bugs, etc.). I weight mine cause I hate messing with split shot sometimes lol. For the streamers, a black bugger and a white bugger. All in a nice little flybox I can shove in my pocket.

ORIGINAL: musthuntmusky

have only fished for natives with conventional tackle but the more i see you guys talk about this whole wild fish thing i am interested.  are natives tough to fish for with a fly rod as a beginner?  ive only casted a few times of a friends rod but might just get go get one here soon.  fishing with bait for trout is getting to easy.

I'd say once you get the fundamentals of casting down, and have appropriately sized gear, it's actually easier than with conventional tackle. With a UL spinning rod you can throw some light lures and baits, but it still has to have some significant weight, and that means a presentation that goes 'plunk!' when it hits. All natives/wilds are cautious with respect to movement, vibration (from heavy footsteps) and visual cues (whether seeing you, your shadow, your rod, reflections from shiny gear...whatever). What a fly rod allows you to do is to deliver nearly weightless offerings from a distance, that land with relatively little disturbance.

While I prefer to use a fly rod at all times, in this case, its also the right tool for the task.

Cold,

If I can get a photo to upload, I will. You are correct, it is a little challanging to duplicate without a recipe, I know it took me a while to get an acceptable copy that looked and fished right. I will dig out the fly boxes and see if I can post one of my versions.

Jeff

ORIGINAL: wonderrod

Cold,

If I can get a photo to upload, I will. You are correct, it is a little challanging to duplicate without a recipe, I know it took me a while to get an acceptable copy that looked and fished right. I will dig out the fly boxes and see if I can post one of my versions.

Jeff

If you have issues with the upload, send me the pic and I'll take care of it.