PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs"

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2011/01/21 10:59:10 (permalink)

PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs"

From the agenda just posted. http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=563329&mode=2
 
Streamlining the language in the definition of a bow to allow draw locs. 

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    bingsbaits
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 11:20:54 (permalink)
    What would the push be for a change like this and by who ??


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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 11:22:26 (permalink)
    Don,t see any reason why those would not be allowed.

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 11:24:14 (permalink)
    I believe in the agenda, it states that this would simplify the language since crossbows are now legal. 

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 11:26:28 (permalink)
    Thank you sir.....

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 11:26:50 (permalink)
    They make your compound a bit more like a crossbow which makes it easier to kill deer. That will teach all you bow hunters to complain about the crossbows. They will just convert yours into one.
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 11:58:20 (permalink)
    Not being an archery hunter, what exactly is a draw lock?
     
    Is it a device that would allow the bow to be drawn and left in that manner without having to hold the weight, even at the lessened level of a compound?

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 12:04:42 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: DarDys

    Not being an archery hunter, what exactly is a draw lock?

    Is it a device that would allow the bow to be drawn and left in that manner without having to hold the weight, even at the lessened level of a compound?

     
    Basically, yes.  The bow is mechanically held at full draw until the release is triggered. 

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 12:11:18 (permalink)
    Yep-- It's a rod not unlike a cane with a flat handle attached to the face of the bow. Once drawn your hand rests on the handle with no strain on your arm until you are ready for the shot. Once this is legal there will be many designs different than currently available for use. It basically converts your compound to a vertical crossbow. The original reason for them being illegal was for that very reason.
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 12:52:48 (permalink)
    Interesting.
     
    If it becomes legal, how many of you will use one?
     
    Why or why not?

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 13:00:50 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: DarDys

    Interesting.

    If it becomes legal, how many of you will use one?

    Why or why not?

     
     
     
     
    I will not use it, but if someone else wants to then fine.  
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 14:26:44 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: DarDys

    Interesting.

    If it becomes legal, how many of you will use one?

    Why or why not?


    They are legal in other states, not many people use them.


    Just as in flyfishing, the rise is the moment you crave, drawing with the animal so close is that, in bowhunting.

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 15:21:07 (permalink)
    A lot of those that would use the drawlocks may have already gone to the crossgun.
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 15:34:02 (permalink)
    I'd never use one as long as my body is willing and able to use a vert. bow and draw it in the animal's presence.  Same reason I won't use a cross-gun.  But, when that day comes and I am an old man like some of yenz (dardys...cough, cough, s-10.... cough, cough, deerfly....cough, cough), I may go that route in lieu of a cross-gun due to cost (I'll already own the bow). 
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 20:04:25 (permalink)

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 20:05:23 (permalink)
    i think its a good idea and it would give us another choice for that days outing!

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 20:24:06 (permalink)
    Yep.  Still gotta be close, know the yardage and play the wind. 

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 20:34:18 (permalink)
    I wouldn't use one if they made them mandatory.
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 21:10:27 (permalink)
    Do they make one to fit my recurve     
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/21 22:30:39 (permalink)
    Would be nice for us gray hairs that can not pull a bow back anymore. Would also give me the arrow weight that I like.

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/22 10:18:36 (permalink)
    Do they make one to fit my recurve


    Actually, they were originally developed for the recurves. When the compounds with 60%-80% let off came on the market the interest in them diminished as most people switched to compounds.
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/22 11:46:17 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: S-10

    Do they make one to fit my recurve


    Actually, they were originally developed for the recurves. When the compounds with 60%-80% let off came on the market the interest in them diminished as most people switched to compounds.

     
    was just being a smart**** , Id use a crossbow if I couldnt pull my recurve
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/22 17:39:36 (permalink)
    I wouldnt carry that around the woods if they paid me to do it.
      I agree with Blunt---
    If I couldnt pull back anymore Ct allows a crossbow with  a Doctors letter about physical disability- Id rather do that.
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/22 18:07:23 (permalink)
    I wouldnt carry that around the woods if they paid me to do it.
    I agree with Blunt---
    If I couldnt pull back anymore Ct allows a crossbow with a Doctors letter about physical disability- Id rather do that.


    I agree with you both, hopefully I'am still a few years away from a crossgun but when I have to in order to keep hunting I will get one.

    We actually made our own version of the draw-loc's back in the 60's using old canes attached to our recurves. They worked fairly well on the range but were a disaster when actually hunting something. Trashed a couple recurves when the draw-loc unexpectedly separated from the bow.
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/23 00:34:37 (permalink)
    If they invented a bow that discharged a bullet upon release, I'd go for that!
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/23 08:27:03 (permalink)
    Nah we need to go the other direction.
    Crossbows are to hard for many to****so the next step will be...

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/23 09:31:26 (permalink)
    I,ll take one of those.lol
    I really do miss being able to pull my bows back.
    I truely loved to shooot 3d tournaments.
    I have 3 trophy,s using fingers and no sights.
    Since having arthritis stopping all that I quit archery hunting.
    Just before crossbows were allowed I had the doc sign a paper to allow me to use one, but its not the same as a bow.
    Having a loc would be as close as using a bow that I would def. give that a try.
    The advantage would be that now I have an arrow that has the impact and weight for a hard hit.
    Whats the differance between using a crossbow and a loc? Not much except now I have the old feel of actually being an archer again.
     
    Just my thoughts, sorry if I affend anyone and I pray you do not get restricted to my level.
     
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/23 09:58:30 (permalink)
    Choice is wonderful thing, Mika.  It is still archery, IMO.

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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/23 13:53:20 (permalink)
    Hey- If there are physical limitations do whatever is needed to get out and enjoy.
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    RE: PGC recommending legalizing of "draw locs" 2011/01/24 08:54:18 (permalink)
    Pa. needs more seasons ! Open a spearing season,sling shot,high power air gun,sword throwing,knife tossing,snareing and any others you can come up with and have a year round open season. I'm in favor of it,I don't like to see deer anymore.
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