Senyo Laser Dub

Anyone out there using this? I was thinking about using it for some pike flies.... I could not find anything simular on our host website (fishusa) but maby I was confused. are the fibers long? If you have used the laser dub, how much is in each bag is it a good bit to do some pike flies, or is it only alot if your making steelie flies and smaller stuff?
 
Thanks
 
Jacob

I dont know exactly what your plan is but Senyo sucks. I was sent a sample of this stuff and I kinda dig it. Shoot me a pm if interested in my source.

http://fishient.com/materials/stevef_farrarbl.htm

Thanks gentlemen, I am looking into the stuff you linked to here. I also found some synth hair called kongo hair, I am thinking about getting some to try just because it is DIRT cheap! If it does not do what I want, I will go from there but we are talking $1.50 per pack and it is in 18" lengths and 41 colors! If anyone has any info on it please don't hesitate to chime in I have not gotten my order together yet. I am suprised fishusa does not carry synthetic yak hair or the like....
 
jacob

Huh, all I wanted to know was if it was long like winging material.... did not know that there were so many politics involved with dubbing materials! I looked at the stuff the other day at the local fly shop and it did not look that evil at all little did I know! Although I did experience a slight burning sensation when I looked at some of his shaggy dubbing but thats another story. Either way, I ordered some congo hair, I am still waiting on getting it. I got some yak hair and some other synthetic hairs and I tied up a dozen clouser like flies for the toothy critters this spring. Sorry to create a whole "thing" with this thread.

Jacob

ORIGINAL: jagfly/666

Please realize by purchasing that dubbing your supporting Greg and his privatizing Elk Creek. He has cemented the Greens property on Elk into his private area to guide on. This area in the past has been open to locals and was a way for the General public to gain access to the PAF&BC easement at I-90. If you like private water then purchase the stuff.

ORIGINAL: Eriefisherman69

Ummm  Sure   All it takes is about 5 minutes of reading your Blog to see that you and Greg are Butt Buddies   

Your Credibility is lost

Try again

personally... i didn't get far enough to read about the "butt buddies"
...the snagged fish in the banner was all i could take

lining/flossing/snagging with a san juan worm.... SWEET!!

Kevin, how would a guy floss a brown trout in a deep jade green run?  I do appreciate how you are always on the attack though.  Keep up that fighting spirit.  You can drop your stupidity with me.  If you ever want to have a real conversation face to face, I'd be happy to do that...but, your hiding behind a screen name and talking tough and making personal attacks says far more about you than it does me.
 
Step up to the plate and be a man Kevin.

ORIGINAL: KJH807

haha...
i'm not hiding or attacking... just calling it as i see it

you have a picture of a fish with a san juan worm outside of the mouth
if you feel the need to talk in person about that... so be it

 
You can bust my balls all you want.  I good with that.  But, trying to smear folks you don't know is another issue.  So what I'm saying is...if you really have a problem with me that we should discuss, then lets get it done.  You have made a point of questioning my integrity several times.  If you knew me, you would not need to do that.  Whatever your perceptions are about me, you might just be surprised how much I take in to advisement the things that others have said to me...on a variety of issues.  Otherwise, back off or just make it clear that you are busting my nuts.  At this point, we don 't know each other at all, let alone well enough for me to know when you are busting my balls.

Maybe you two should try the PM function or meet face to face...debates are one thing, personal matters are another.
 
Now...I've spoken to and read various "experts" (professional guides and well known authors) that have differing opinions on whether the above fish would be considered "fair-hooked" as opposed to "foul-hooked". If that hookset is the result of an angler rippin' his line through the water or with any actions with similar intentions, then the result is certainly a foul-hook. If it's the result from a legitimate strike as the angler is drifting or stripping his/her offering through the water, then it's a fair-hooked fish. Others are staunch believers on the other end of the argument.
 
Personally, if the hook is not in the mouth, then its foul. I believe the CO's would agree, but their stream management seems to default to observed intent.
 
What say you board members??
 
 

ORIGINAL: Riverbum

Now...I've spoken to and read various "experts" (professional guides and well known authors) that have differing opinions on whether the above fish would be considered "fair-hooked" as opposed to "foul-hooked". If that hookset is the result of an angler rippin' his line through the water or with any actions with similar intentions, then the result is certainly a foul-hook. If it's the result from a legitimate strike as the angler is drifting or stripping his/her offering through the water, then it's a fair-hooked fish. Others are staunch believers on the other end of the argument.

Personally, if the hook is not in the mouth, then its foul. I believe the CO's would agree, but their stream management seems to default to observed intent.

What say you board members??

 
I caught the fish 3 weeks ago on Clear Fork River in OH (not private in any sense of the word).  This is nice brown trout water with consistent winter time flows due to the bottom release Pleasant Hill Dam.  There are tons of deep jade green runs with good flow.  I was drifting the San Juan under a strike indicator.  He hit the worm on the swing at the end of the drift.  There is no way to line or floss fish under those conditions.  You could not see a fish in that dark green water if you tried.  I used that pic in particular because I liked the way the fish looked.  I would not take a picture of a fish I accidently foul-hooked, let alone post it.  My thought on these types of hookings are that the fish do hit pretty lightly in these cold conditions and the reaction to the strike (hook-set) comes too long after the strike.  That is also why I think folks foul hook fish in the head when they are using a trailer.  I believe the fish strikes the and spits out the 1st fly and the delayed hook-set ends up being the trailer in the fishes head.
 
So, I think the real critique of the photo comes down to the fact that I need to be more sensitive to the strike and thus quicker on the hook set.  One thing I can assure you of...I have no interest in flossing or lining.  But I am absolutely open to any comment on better sensitivity and reaction in conditions in which the bite is very subtle.

Guys,

Please get this back on topic or I will lock the thread.

Thanks,

Eric

when using as dubbing... be careful that the UV material doesn't bind
(the stuff is just dubbing with UV blended in)
the "dubbing" part will stay bushy/buggy/what you expect dubbing to do
but the "UV" part has different properties... whether it is longer flibers/type of material (flat and non kinky) it will not stay bushy and will restrict the "dubbing"

when working with small amounts (18-22 nymphs) i've been removing some of the UV strands

I just cannot understand why some people cannot just answer a question without taking the opportunity to smear the reputation of another person. Senyo's fly material, all of it is excellent stuff. I am quite sure the Orvis company who named him Fly Tyer of the year would agree. So in the future go to credible sources for truthfull assessments of products as many of the folks on this site have personal vendetta's to fullfill. The property in question on this site, for the record is not closed, it is accessable through land owner permission only. If you are crying because you cannot get to an easement then blame the fish commision that you have to rappel from I 90, not Senyo or the land owner. The bottom line is, boo hoo to you! Keep crying and posting slanderous messages and at the end of the day you will still be WISHING you could fish this property because you just dont know who is reading this............Now do you!

Senyo, his materials, his flies, his waders, his rods, his truck, his everything is awesome. I have the same thing to say about elkcreek5. Top notch stuff. There you happy. I fell into line. Sorry I didnt know I wasnt allowed to voice a honest opinion.

Registering just to post a rebuttal... that's classy... and funny. All this thread needs is some snagging... oh wait