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Last Hunt of 2010

Back in the Fall I kind of coerced (okay, conned) two board memebrs to help me relocated a really, really heavy two person ladder stand (one had helped install it originally, so he should have known better).  As a gesture of thanks, I provided the Pointers and some birds for a hunt.  Here are a few photos.
 
 
 
Pheasant hunting, so easy, you can do it in your pajamas.
 

 
 
 
 
 
A Little Help.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Shoot them at 18 - 22 yards.

 
 
 
 
The First of Three Escapes By a Must Sought After Melonisitc phase.

 
 
 
 
 
that's 18 to 22 yards, not inches.

 
 
 
 
Yes, they can hide in very small spots.
 

 
 
 
 
Dinner and fly tying feathers.

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    Fisherlady2
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/05 16:40:45 (permalink)
    Very nice!!  Dogs who know their jobs, love their jobs and are good at them are awesome to watch
    Nice shooting and I'm sure someone enjoyed some great eating!
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/05 19:06:54 (permalink)
    Nice pics. Is that on a preserve ?
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/05 19:52:03 (permalink)
    Great pics Dars.
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/05 20:44:27 (permalink)
    Shawn,

    Had a great time. Looking forward to the next one...

    I enjoyed a meal of bacon wrapped pheasant last night. The trout have been enjoying the feathers .
    post edited by thedrake - 2011/01/05 20:45:45
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/05 20:48:56 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: DarDys

    The First of Three Escapes By a Must Sought After Melonisitc phase.






    No wonder I missed. It looks like I'm pointing the gun in the wrong direction
    post edited by thedrake - 2011/01/05 20:50:42
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/05 22:42:14 (permalink)
    Lol! Great !  Thanks that was sweet!

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 00:27:00 (permalink)
    The dogs are beautiful!!!
    The guys with the dogs...not so much. j/k
    Good shootin' Drake and 'Kype!

    Ironhed

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 00:48:55 (permalink)
    I have n't seen or heard of a wild pheasant in my part of Penna.(SE) in several years,since I see a few hens on the ground that must be at a preserve,nothing wrong with that just a observation.
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 02:45:31 (permalink)
    I'm not really into shooting birds that were pen raised. But if you like it, more to ya! It has to be a preserve. One person not wearing the required FO should tell you that. Nice pics either way you look at it.
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 08:04:20 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: thedrake

    ORIGINAL: DarDys

    The First of Three Escapes By a Must Sought After Melonisitc phase.






    No wonder I missed. It looks like I'm pointing the gun in the wrong direction




    Not real sure why Shawn removed the REAL target in the picture but here is the truth.









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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 08:06:29 (permalink)
    I took yer advice drake and also wrapped them in some bacon. Pretty good.

    Thanks Shawn. The dogs were fun to watch. And you've got some good timing with that camera !

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 08:21:09 (permalink)
    Yes, this was at a preserve.  It is the only way I can justify the expense of raising and training dogs.  It will be the last pheasant hunt for the season, even though the season runs until the last Saturday in April.  We will switch over to chukars for the balance of January and into February, until the Northeaster Chukar Challenge Championship.  Chukars are like grouse, but are labeled as Cornish game hens in the grocery store.  From mid-March until the end of the season, we wil switch again, this time to quail.  I also switch from the 20 to a .410.  By being a member of a club, I get to hunt birds for 6 months, not a few weeks.
     
    As for the FO, give the archery guy a break, he thought he had to get close and not be seen.  He insisted on wearing his pajamas.  We could not stop him.
     
    With regard to pen raised birds, there pen raised birds and then there are flight pen raised birds.  Pen raised birds don't exhibit many of the instinctual characteristics that so-called wild or liberated birds do.  That was part of the problem with the PGC stocked pheasants in the late 70's and early 80's.  Many were raised on a co-op in chicken-type coops and when released, they acted like chickens.  Many had never flown in their life, except when they were released.  Also, see the thread under this subject that BigHead posted.  Those were more than likely pen raised birds.  These birds are a lot like hatchery trout.
     
    Flight pen birds, on the other hand, are raised in cover plots, up to an acre in size, that happen to be covered with netting, sometimes as high as 30 to 40 feet.  The feeding and watering is done automatically, so there is no human contact.  Because of the size and height of the pens, the birds are free to act like birds and fly.  They also get very warry of humans, especially since their only contact with them is when they are captured.
     
    Are some of the flight pen raised birds dumb?  You bet.  So are some of the wild ones.  But most are not.  On this particular hunt, we had four birds slip out from under points, even two dog bracketed ones; run to the nearest cut; and come off the ground at 50 to 75 yards -- well out of range -- just like wild birds.
     
    And I must write that these are okay to good birds.  At the preserve where I guide, the birds could be rated as excellent.  That owner buys only a certain strain of birds from a single supplier and they are not only beautiful, but strong fliers, and very good at avoiding dogs and people.  They are raised under the strictest of conditions to ensure the quality.  Since he over stocks the number of birds by at least 10%, there are a lot of liberated birds that are out for months on end.  And having hunted wild pheasants (I think, see the note in the youth thread about SD), they are as tough if not tougher to bag -- I guess getting shot at a few times will do that.
     
    For those that criticize preserve hunting, even in a back handed way, it is obvious that they have never done it or have never done it at a quality facility.  And they probably fish for stocked trout and steelhead, but their nose grows so they can look down it when it comes to critters with feathers.
     
    When I get a few minutes, I'll post some hunting photos from game lands, so as to not offend.

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 09:47:42 (permalink)

    For those that criticize preserve hunting, even in a back handed way, it is obvious that they have never done it or have never done it at a quality facility.



    One BIG difference is the COST, I am sure most guys who hunt preserves already have a fishing or hunting license , so it's added cost and I think that is why many "bad mouth" that style of hunting .. they just wish they could afford it...

    BUT == THAT SAID ===

    And they probably fish for stocked trout and steelhead, but their nose grows so they can look down it when it comes to critters with feathers



    I see a big difference with fishing for stocked critters and killing critters at a preserve..
    you can catch and release fish for another day or another person to enjoy..


    PLUS I have never seen dogs used to locate the fish before trying to harvest them ..

    Now that was not a serious point.. I was trying to be humorous...



    also not fair to compare steelhead fishing with stream trout fishing. I have never seen a trout stream that gets stocked have thousands of fish all just basically staying there waiting to get hooked or snagged...most stocked fish are caught as they are put in the stream or the population quickly declines at the spots for the stockings.

    I have never fished for steelheads and I am sure there is a certain "skill" involved but
    after reading the steelhead threads and videos of all the fish practically on top of each other ...like fish in a tank at a sports show . I decided it was not my cup of tea .. ... just like preserve hunting is not my cup of tea.. but to each his own...

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 10:08:09 (permalink)
    Doc,
     
    Do you play golf?  Do you bowl?  Did it cost more than your fishing license, which you already bought, to go on the Edward John for a perch trip?  Do you go to sporting events?  Do you go to concerts?  Do you watch TV? 
     
    Do they let you do it for free? 
     
     Here's a super surprise for you -- you get what you pay for.  I get to hunt for six months, on private ground, for birds I know are there.  And I don't need to buy a license.

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 10:26:00 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: SilverKype






    Not real sure why Shawn removed the REAL target in the picture but here is the truth.












    Dammit.

    I was waiting for that.
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 10:36:59 (permalink)
    Sorry Dan, I saw that barrel pointed that way and I couldn't wait to get my hands on photoshop.

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 10:55:07 (permalink)
    I didn't think that phesant looked right.
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 11:02:03 (permalink)
    Doc,

    Do you play golf? Do you bowl? Did it cost more than your fishing license, which you already bought, to go on the Edward John for a perch trip? Do you go to sporting events? Do you go to concerts? Do you watch TV?


    golf... tried it some 7-8 years ago
    bowl... not in over 45 years
    Edward John.. you got me == GUILTY !!
    sporting events... Nope
    concerts... not in 25 years
    TV.. maybe 15 hours a week, not counting NFL football games
    out for dinner.. three times a year.. 2 birthdays and one anniversary .. I managed a resturant so I know what goes on behind the scenes....
    movies.. not in 50 years... to expensive . I'll wait for the VHS,DVD or on HBO....


    see I'm really a stay at home boring guy !!!!
    post edited by Dr. Trout - 2011/01/06 11:03:07
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 11:17:28 (permalink)
    Maybe you ought to go phesant hunting at the club with us some time.
     
    Its anything but boring.

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 11:25:39 (permalink)
    I just knew there was a sucker joke in there somewhere.

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 12:55:58 (permalink)
    that first picture is sweet

    go back to spain
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 12:57:02 (permalink)
    Can't remember the last time I shot at a pheasant flying in the air

    SO I might not find the experience that enjoyable

    other than watching the dogs work.. that I KNOW I'd LOVE...


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    post edited by Dr. Trout - 2011/01/06 13:04:12
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 14:05:37 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: SilverKype

    Sorry Dan, I saw that barrel pointed that way and I couldn't wait to get my hands on photoshop.


    Well played.
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 14:13:00 (permalink)



    Absolutely the best photo, nothing like watchin' good dogs work.


    Doc, I have seen you getting beat around on these boards and never paid that much attention to it, just thought a couple of folks had some baggage with you. Your first post in this thread was idiotic and not obviously done if fun. Hunting the stocked birds isn't alot of fun unless you like the elbow to armpit stuff, frankly I always thought it was dangerous for my dog and everyone around. I've see some really crazy crap with over concentrated stockies. Most of my gun dogs days were spent chasing grouse and quail with few other people around. If you think the prices that DarDys posted are high, just buy yourself an Erie boat and then figure out what it costs you to go fishing (not counting the cost of the boat). I'm starting to think that you bring on the beatings yourself, next time you start to post a similar reply.... don't.
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 14:27:53 (permalink)
    Doc, I have seen you getting beat around on these boards and never paid that much attention to it, just thought a couple of folks had some baggage with you. Your first post in this thread was idiotic and not obviously done if fun.


    ANOTHER guy that can not read and has obvious "baggage"

    here's the post.. notice the smileys and I even say I am having FUN ...gheezzz.......some of you guys just love beating on me for no reason...



    For those that criticize preserve hunting, even in a back handed way, it is obvious that they have never done it or have never done it at a quality facility.


    One BIG difference is the COST, I am sure most guys who hunt preserves already have a fishing or hunting license , so it's added cost and I think that is why many "bad mouth" that style of hunting .. they just wish they could afford it...

    BUT == THAT SAID ===

    quote:

    And they probably fish for stocked trout and steelhead, but their nose grows so they can look down it when it comes to critters with feathers


    I see a big difference with fishing for stocked critters and killing critters at a preserve..
    you can catch and release fish for another day or another person to enjoy..


    PLUS I have never seen dogs used to locate the fish before trying to harvest them ..

    Now that was not a serious point.. I was trying to be humorous...



    also not fair to compare steelhead fishing with stream trout fishing. I have never seen a trout stream that gets stocked have thousands of fish all just basically staying there waiting to get hooked or snagged...most stocked fish are caught as they are put in the stream or the population quickly declines at the spots for the stockings.

    I have never fished for steelheads and I am sure there is a certain "skill" involved but
    after reading the steelhead threads and videos of all the fish practically on top of each other ...like fish in a tank at a sports show . I decided it was not my cup of tea .. ... just like preserve hunting is not my cup of tea.. but to each his own...



    post edited by Dr. Trout - 2011/01/06 14:29:47
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 14:36:36 (permalink)
    Was the sucker an extra cost?or was it part of the package to hunt for the day? Also, What type of additional training do the dogs need?....WF
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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 15:00:16 (permalink)
    No "baggage" here, just now understand why you're the punching bag that you are...



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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 15:08:15 (permalink)
    yep I'm easy to dis-agree with especially to those with opposing views, but I do hope you see my first post here was not to be taken very seriously as you suggested it was....

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    RE: Last Hunt of 2010 2011/01/06 16:01:06 (permalink)
    Does anyone else find it funny/ironic that Bulldog's 3200 post was "No "baggage" here, just now understand why you're the punching bag that you are... "
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