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2010/12/29 12:01:19 (permalink)

braid for spinning reels

i have used trilene xl for many years but keep reading about power pro. i tried it once for a day, but the noise that braided lines make bothered me, so i stripped the spoon and refilled with trilene. i am thinking about giving it another try but would like to hear some pros and cons.

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    davef
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2010/12/29 13:37:46 (permalink)
    Rich:  The noise and stiffness does take some getting used to but I have braid of one brand or another on all but one spinning reel I own (except for ice fishing outside a hut).  One of the main reasons I like it is I do not get near as many loose loops on the reel when I close the bail. I also have not replaced the line unless it gets to low on the spool. The stuff may get fuzzy and look terrible but it is still strong.

    One suggestion I will make is fill the spool almost to full then just add 50 yards of braid on top. I wish I would catch fish that take more than 50 yards of line out locally but except for steelhead in Erie it has never happened to me.

    The only negatives I can think of other than noise is if it tangles tight have a sharp knife handy to cut the line as a knot generally can not be picked out in my opinion. Also I do seem to get a lot of tangles at the rod tip but they are pretty easy to undo unless a have a 10 foot noodle rod and can't reach the rod tip. I usually end up pulling the rod apart just so I can reach the tip to undo the tangle.
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2010/12/29 13:46:20 (permalink)
    dave, thanks for the input. btw, hope your new year is a great one. maybe this is the year i find that stamp and that we fish together. man, i need to retire or hit the lottery.

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2010/12/29 17:20:14 (permalink)
    I plan on coming up one weekend day once the ice clears as my adult son wants to come up. I'll let you know and perhaps we can meet up. He doesn't have an Ohio license so I'll have to stick to Pa. streams that trip. I also hope you and your family have a great new year.

    So far I have no complaints about retired life and would recommend it to anyone who can afford it. Sad to say in these economic times perhaps it's on hold for quite a few people. I really complained about my old job but I actually had it pretty good compared to a lot of people. One thing I am sure of i can't see how anyone could afford to retire and live if their only income was social security. 
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2010/12/29 17:35:36 (permalink)
    rapalla11 I do not have a lot of expeience with braid i use for perch fishing on erie and i can tell you it really makes a difference in detecting the strikes. you can feel the strikes with braid a lot easier. and have had very little trouble with it I am using fireline. good luck and hope this helps.
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    rapala11
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2010/12/29 19:12:56 (permalink)
    thanks, friend. i keep hearing that it is really sensitive. hard to get old dogs like me to pee on a different tree but i think i will try it on a couple of reels this spring. i appreciate the advice.

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2010/12/29 21:41:26 (permalink)
    I like Spiderwire 8# braid for PA and I run 15# power pro on my salt reels
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2010/12/30 08:38:31 (permalink)
    i use braid on the spinning and the trooling rods love it last for years so the cost of mono to braid makes a different over 2years and i use the power pro its around 12 bucks for 150 yards of 8 or #10 lb
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2010/12/30 08:40:07 (permalink)
    8lb or 10 lb i use 20 for the lake and went to 30 lb got a good deal so love it and you realy feel the bites when you get them hiting short you can play them a little more
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2010/12/30 18:45:25 (permalink)
    I use Spiderwire on all my bigger rods . Has saved me a bunch of tackle over the years.
    The hookset is awesome when casting lures, no stretch puts it right to them..
     
    One caution when using braided line, be very careful with snags and trying to break the line with your hands..
    It will cut you deep if it runs through your fingers.

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/01 16:53:05 (permalink)
    My favorite for the spinning reel so far is Tuf-Line. My reasoning is simply the feel. Its smoother than the others. I also like the feel of the Sufix, but have not given it a try yet...this summer...

    The noise the braid makes, gives me a rush!

    Not many cons IMO Raps...better feel, no stretch, more instant hooksets=more fish to the boat, smaller dia. vs. strength, and lasts a hell of a lot longer. I always use the anology of "Its like the difference between carbon and aluminum arrows" Some of the old timers just cannot let go. IMHO mono is pretty much obsolete anymore except for just a few applications. Ice fishing, winter fishing due to freezing and rigger fishing...thats it for me and these are the ONLY places you will see me using mono anymore. Everything else is braid!

    Therefore not making mono obsolete Cold, I know I know
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/01 17:34:05 (permalink)
    thanks, guys. as for crappie fishing, should i use a mono leader? i would imagine i will be okay with straight braid for walleye and smallmouth.

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/02 08:35:36 (permalink)
    We use 20 & 30 # Power Pro for our trolling and catfish reels and so far have been happy with it.
     
    I use 10# Stren "Super Braid" on my "utility" rod and have about an 8' Flouro leader on it, I am very happy with the way that stuff works...BUT, I don't think it is produced anymore and it might have been replaced by what Stren calls "Sonic Braid"...seems like the same stuff only a different name.
     
    We tried "Spiderwire Stealth"...it was crap...it seems to have a plastic coating that just wanted to shred and constantly was making little whiskers on the line.
     
    I've found...in my "opinion", softer, more flexible braid works better on spinning reels...at least for me...
    The less flexible stuff, like Fireline wants to "do it's own thing" when casting.
     
    Also, I've found that overfilling a spool makes some of the braids want to go "poof" and puke off of the end of the spool when you open the bail.
     
    I have a rig that I slip-float for gills and crappies with that has 4# fireline on it.
    When I spooled it, I tried to "soften" or "age" the line by pulling the line through an old rag soaked with "Reel Magic"...it seemed to work in the fact that it took off the excess black coating and also seemed to relax the line a bit.
    So far it works ok with passing through the slip float.
     
    Hope this helps...
    Again, the preceeding is only my observations and opinion.  

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/03 06:27:10 (permalink)
    EM I agree the spiderwire STEALTH sucks not only it get the whiskers, when snugging down on the knot makes coating come off and weak and that is after wetting/lubing the line. Now the original spiderwire was GREAT!!! I have been using the PROWER PRO 20-30 and the Sufix braid. Both are pretty good. Dave
    post edited by BIGHEAD - 2011/01/03 06:36:08

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/09 18:00:57 (permalink)
    i am also switching to braid this year and was wondering if i am using rapalas or using jigheads and crawlers for walleye should i be using a leader or just tie the braid right to the bait?
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/09 19:47:38 (permalink)
    I prefer to use a fluoro leader if the water is clear, or I'm fishing bottom style applications (like dragging a jig, especially when the bottom is rocky). Weeds, straight braid.
     
    For treble hooked lures (like the Rapalas you mentioned) I also use a leader but that's because I want a little strech in the line so that I'm not ripping the hooks out when fighting the fish. You can also just drop to a softer rod to accomplish the same.

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/09 20:01:03 (permalink)
    r2f, leader to line connection, do you use a small swivel? also, for most apps, how long a leader? thanks, in advance.

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/09 20:31:29 (permalink)
    and with the leader from the braid to mono will the hit still be better felt even though its not straight on the bait with the braid? thanks for the advice im a newbie with this braid stuff.
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/10 07:10:39 (permalink)
    as far as a jig if the fish are spookey and water clear use a floro if not hust go dirrect i fish for steelies with a small snap size #14 or #12 and put my spoon or rattle or rooster on it works darn good for me as far as perch i tie my own leader and use floro
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/11 16:35:42 (permalink)
    yeah dont try stealth that stuff is pure $hit
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/11 21:24:54 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ShutUpNFish

    My favorite for the spinning reel so far is Tuf-Line. My reasoning is simply the feel. Its smoother than the others. I also like the feel of the Sufix, but have not given it a try yet...this summer...

    The noise the braid makes, gives me a rush!

    Not many cons IMO Raps...better feel, no stretch, more instant hooksets=more fish to the boat, smaller dia. vs. strength, and lasts a hell of a lot longer. I always use the anology of "Its like the difference between carbon and aluminum arrows" Some of the old timers just cannot let go. IMHO mono is pretty much obsolete anymore except for just a few applications. Ice fishing, winter fishing due to freezing and rigger fishing...thats it for me and these are the ONLY places you will see me using mono anymore. Everything else is braid!

    Therefore not making mono obsolete Cold, I know I know


    Yesterday on the Versus Network I saw a segment,
    filmed at the World Wide Sportsman store in Islamorada,
    touting the benefits of a new braid called Tuf-Line DuraCast.
    It was on a show called "Saltwater Experience". Here is a link to Tuf-Line:

    http://www.tuf-line.com/groups_DuraCast.html

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/11 23:22:47 (permalink)
    When using briad for smallies, jigging walleyes, fishing for bass at farm ponds or saltwater fishing; I almost always use the uni to uni knot direct from braid to flouro. 2' of flouro.

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/12 14:24:18 (permalink)
    Just a note of caution Rap, the braid can be abrasive and could wear on the eyes of the rod and some reel components. I switched to braid on all of my rods, except for the surf rod I use once every two year. Didn't use to believe the hype about the sensitivity, but just go perchin' with someone that's using it while you use mono... you'll be buying braid as soon as you get back to shore

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/01/27 11:23:39 (permalink)
    It's awesome for perching on Erie, you can tie it directly to your rig with no flouro leader.
    I also like it on my catfish rod and for casting lures. Might try it on my trout rods this year with a 4lb flouro leader, not sure yet.
    But yes, the added sensitivity is worth trying it out.
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/02/02 00:07:49 (permalink)
    Been using it for 20 years now. I have tried them all and found sufix to be my favorite. They have a new 832 line this year that sinks slowly which most braids float. Braids are great except near rocks. If they rub hard against a rock they break down easy and more than likely snap. Now trees you can basically pull the whole thing in. I take a glove with me in case I get snagged and use that to pull in the line. Usually the hook breaks before the line. Great for detection and I don't feel you have to use a mono leader in clear water. I fish it all the time and do quite well. I use hockey tape around the spool so it doesn't spin when you load it on and have done it this way for a while.
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/02/17 17:49:55 (permalink)
    been using spiderwire for over 20 years best thing for light strikes on perch,casting plugs walleye and muskie I like 6LB diameter 20 test for lake Erie and have used in the Niagra river for lakers and kings never broke the stuff thumbs up. 
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/02/20 15:30:43 (permalink)
    The original spiderwire is was amazing, but stealth is horrible in my opinion. I have never seen a braid become so banged up from trolling before in such a short time. I have 4 muskies snap me off on the 50 pound braid, I'm going to stick to power pro
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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/02/23 08:46:24 (permalink)
    i used suffix braid once. after that first trip i stripped all the line from all my rods and went with the suffix. i've tried other braids and wasn't impressed. the worst braids (like all their other line varieties) came from berkley. i wonder if those people even fish.

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/02/23 10:14:33 (permalink)
    can anyone tell me if they make braided line in 2,4,6lb...or suggest a mono with low stretch...i fish for perch in 50-60fow and the strectch in my line is way too much

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    RE: braid for spinning reels 2011/02/23 13:35:07 (permalink)
    Yes they do make the braids in the smaller lines.
    We have our perch rods spooled up with 8 lb braid, I'm sure 6 lb would work also, never had trouble getting them to bite. Just attach your leader or terminal tackle with a small swivel and you are set.
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