wayne c
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Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
If you could give 2 or 3 reasonable suggestions that they would take and consider seriously, what would they be? Statewide or for just particular areas, whatever. I dont have any major complaints so dont have any major changes, but have two that would benefit me personally as well as many other fisherman in this corner of the state i believe. 1. Id like to see cast nets legalized for most larger waterways across the state, for catching gizzard shad etc. for bait with reasonable restrictions of course. Especially the mon river for this area. I see no reason for it not to be permitted when so many other states permit it, and even a limited number of waterways here in Pa. This would be huge for catfishermen of the state. Probably add some cash to fish & boats purse too if the $10 permit system were kept. 2. Id like to see the Mon River get more stockings of musky fingerlings. The stockings were discontinued back around 2006, and have just been reinstated on a very limited basis with "tiger" musky fingerlings, which by most accounts seems to be a waste of money as they are too aggressive and dont live long because of it. Also they have no natural reproductive potential. I think the mon has great potential and some of that potential is being realized by some of the avid musky fishers of this area. I would love to see PURE strain musky fingerling stockings reinstated & increased. And if some "outside the box" thinking werent out of the question, and there were no big price differential or biological reasons to prevent it, stockings of the "spotted" musky strain would probably make the river an actual travel to destination, and have many Pa musky guys drooling over not having to go 1000 miles to catch them.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/27 18:02:36
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Reduce statewide panfish limit to 20 per species per day. I think it is really needed on smaller bodies of water (<300 acres). Don't close trout lakes to fishing before trout season. Some of my favorite lakes for crappie are closed at peak times because of pelletheads.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/27 18:03:10
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i'd like to see more money spent on improving fish habitat instead of throwing away money on hatchery trout.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/27 18:35:50
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Block Dr. Trout's number on all Commission phones? On a more serious note, deregulate any stream capable of supporting a wild trout population.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/27 18:54:21
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ORIGINAL: ddubs3 Reduce statewide panfish limit to 20 per species per day. I think it is really needed on smaller bodies of water (<300 acres). Don't close trout lakes to fishing before trout season. Some of my favorite lakes for crappie are closed at peak times because of pelletheads. + 1
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/27 20:23:21
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1. Speed limits on lakes instead of horsepower restrictions. 2. Speed limits on lakes instead of horsepower restrictions.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/27 21:23:55
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-I think they should Reduce all bag limits (especially on small waters). I really like ideas of big bass and panfish enhancement. They need to increase size and reduce creel limits. -Increase the minimum size for Walleye. -also agree with not closing trout season. screws up good fishing for other species. Stock the tributaries of the 3 rivers with steelhead! ORIGINAL: esbdmb 1. Speed limits on lakes instead of horsepower restrictions. 2. Speed limits on lakes instead of horsepower restrictions.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/27 22:53:38
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ORIGINAL: Cold On a more serious note, deregulate any stream capable of supporting a wild trout population. Hey Cold Im not being a jackwagon here, but what do you mean by "deregulate"? Do you mean less restrictions and greater access? If so, wouldnt that be counter-productive to supporting the "wilds"?
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/27 23:14:37
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ORIGINAL: esbdmb 1. Speed limits on lakes instead of horsepower restrictions. 2. Speed limits on lakes instead of horsepower restrictions. i suggested this some time ago and there was a newspaper reporter that used to frequent these boards who explained why it would not work. dont remember what the reason was and im not sure i bought it but do remember there was a reason. i think it was some time ago on the old boards. taking a course in "Launch Building 101" sure couldnt hurt the PFBC. leaving the docks in the rivers later and putting them in earlier sure would be nice. just sayin'
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 00:20:42
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ORIGINAL: Cold Block Dr. Trout's number on all Commission phones? On a more serious note, deregulate any stream capable of supporting a wild trout population. I ran into something along these lines this year over your way. A nice spring creek littered with reproducing brookies added to the stocking list. It was outstanding in my mind because the day I was there, a guy starts telling me about these "red bellied rainbows" that they stocked in there, and there was an unusual amount of fishing traffic where there is usually virtually none. I come home and run down the list to find that this run had been stocked, which seemed odd, since you can't drift a fly 2 feet without a smaller brookie hitting it. There also seemed to be a whole lot of contention about this in Potter county when I was there this year. [edited for over usage of the word "over"]
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 01:08:13
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X2 !! ORIGINAL: esbdmb 1. Speed limits on lakes instead of horsepower restrictions. 2. Speed limits on lakes instead of horsepower restrictions.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 01:53:51
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"1. Speed limits on lakes instead of horsepower restrictions." Please! Then we can have how many 20 page, tear filled threads? Filled with cries, "I was only X over the limit". "There's no way they could have known how fast I was going", "They only pick on X, or Y type boats, or guys with Z"
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Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference. Step Up, or Step Aside The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody. GL
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 06:58:20
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lol. true dat. just sayin'
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 08:03:03
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ORIGINAL: Riverbum ORIGINAL: Cold On a more serious note, deregulate any stream capable of supporting a wild trout population. Hey Cold Im not being a jackwagon here, but what do you mean by "deregulate"? Do you mean less restrictions and greater access? If so, wouldnt that be counter-productive to supporting the "wilds"? If the stream can keep trout going on its own, stop stocking it and take all fishing-related special regs. off of it. Obviously bag limits, size restrictions, litter laws, etc. would still apply, i'm talking things like DHALO, CRFFO, WBTE, Class A, etc.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 09:51:00
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stop stocking over wild trout end the opening day this would create more opportunities for put and take fishing on water that wont support trout year around, and take some of the pressure off of fishing the streams that get stocked over wild fish
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 09:51:02
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Reduce the number of steelhead being stocked and channel that money to enhancing some NATIVE species instead of the INVASIVE ones.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 10:43:28
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how about stocking steelhead in the upper yough,,,the cooler waters mite sustain them,,, i know in ohio down around the akron area, in the cuyahoga they stocked steelies and seemed to work well,,,maybe even some atlantic salmon strain would work,,,,,just my opinion
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 12:15:14
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I'd like to see them change some bass regulations, especially on lake Arthur. First thing I'd do would be lower the limit during winter. Either to 2 fish over 15", or I'd settle for a limit of 4, 12" minimum size, but only 2 can be over 15". I think that would make a difference. I'd also limit the number of total tournaments that can be held on a lake during the year. I enjoy fishing in them, but it's gotten out of hand.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 12:15:45
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Increase size limit on Musky to 50". This would protect the Musky until they are trophy size. Issue a Musky stamp like they do for trout and use the money for stocking more locations such as the Mon River.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 12:43:49
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1) Open up more waters for cast nets (with a reasonable size restriction on the net size) and make the permits good statewide, not the 'per body of water' BS they do now. 2) Reduce the panfish limits, impose slot limits where fishing pressure is heavy on them and take catfish and move them into their own classification and put limits of 6 (combined species) on them with only one allowed to be over 32" (unless fishing paylakes, with receipt as proof). The problem with this one is that it won't do much good if it isn't ENFORCED!!! 2a) to go with restrictions for #2 above. Figure out a fair way to have a child's limit on panfish further reduced so that a parent can't take 6 kids fishing, each keeping their 40 or 50 fish and wiping out an area, and potentially a small body of water, during a season of over fishing. And I do know of a small lake where that happened and stricter limits and enforcement may have helped.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 16:53:23
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Commander, Let's not forget complaints about. (A) Lax enforcement (B) Over zealous, jackbooted thugs And (C) Those that were in category (A), UNTIL they, or one of their friends gets ticketed.
Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference. Step Up, or Step Aside The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody. GL
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 17:12:08
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decent launches and longer dock time is cool with me. youll never satisfy people with A, B, or C. just sayin'
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 20:00:00
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A few years ago the West Newton Sportsmen did stock steelheads for 1 or 2 yrs but that didn't work out,maybe because they have an instinct to travel & that exposes them to more predation ? sam ORIGINAL: ROCKHARD how about stocking steelhead in the upper yough,,,the cooler waters mite sustain them,,, i know in ohio down around the akron area, in the cuyahoga they stocked steelies and seemed to work well,,,maybe even some atlantic salmon strain would work,,,,,just my opinion
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 20:31:14
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 22:16:29
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Wow, thats great news. I know we discussed some of this previously on some threads. Thanks to Bob & pfbc and all those who've contacted them about stocking skis in the mon!
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/28 22:33:46
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Permit use of cast nets and upsize them to a size that is actually common. Move the "fish for free" days further apart.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/29 00:07:09
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oops sorry, correction there were total 5,000 skies stocked 1,700 tigers and 3,300 pures dont know what i was thinkin geuss was wishful thinkin of 5,000 pures. anyway big news is they are finally able to get pures to eat the food pellets at the hatcheries now therefore its just as cheap to raise pures as it is to raise tigers now, before they had to feed pures minnies therefore was much more expensive to raise those bad boys.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/29 06:12:39
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ORIGINAL: musky maniac oops sorry, correction there were total 5,000 skies stocked 1,700 tigers and 3,300 pures dont know what i was thinkin geuss was wishful thinkin of 5,000 pures. anyway big news is they are finally able to get pures to eat the food pellets at the hatcheries now therefore its just as cheap to raise pures as it is to raise tigers now, before they had to feed pures minnies therefore was much more expensive to raise those bad boys. Does that mean Powerbait is now the secret weapon for muskies as well as stocked trout?
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/29 12:32:25
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1. Start to build more fish habitat, and stock fish that can actually survive the summer and possibly increase populations amounts through natural reproduction. 2. Heavy fines for fishermen who target fish with bows and then leave them there on the bank for the next fishermen to smell or clean up. Love when I take the daughter fishing and I find a pile of decaying carp on the banks.
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RE: Suggestions For Pa Fish & Boat Commission
2010/12/29 13:04:47
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1. More special regulation trout waters. Less than one percent of Pennsylvania's approved trout waters have any sort of special regulation. Oh, and I've seen an argument on here by Jolie that people who use special regs areas should pay more because special regs areas limit the use of the water. Ok, I'll pay a percentage license increase that equals the percentage of approved waters under special regs. 2. Focus on wild, or at least self sustaining populations of fish. There are streams in SW pa that should not be stocked. Its a waste. Focus on warmwater species for these streams, I'll catch rock bass just as happily as 9 inch stockies.
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