question on augers

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2010/12/22 09:56:43 (permalink)

question on augers

Hi everyone,
I don't ice fish much, but when I can I get out there. Ive been looking for a manual non-gas powered ice auger. Ive seen 6, 8, or 10 inch. Is it feasible to drill a 10 inch hole manually with no problem? Im only about 145 lbs, so im not the hulk or anything. ive seen a couple used ones around, 25 bucks for a 10 inch, or 25 bucks for an 8 inch. Thoughts?

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    nw/jigmaster
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 10:13:20 (permalink)
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 10:15:53 (permalink)
    I personally use an 8 inch manual auger and it takes its toll on the arms after drilling a bunch of holes. I would imagine a manual 10 inch would definitely give you a workout.
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 10:35:39 (permalink)
    I'm not sure where your fishing but for many years I used a 6 inch spoon auger to drill holes and I never caught a fish that wouldn't come through that size hole. The biggest fish I can remember is a 33 inch pike my buddy Blue caught. He also landed a burbot about the same size but we didn't measure it.

    I wish I could hook fish that wouldn't fit but so far no luck. 
    We have moved up to 7 and 8 inch sizes though the 8 inch is gas powered. There is a huge difference in the energy needed as the hole size increases. I don't remember the numbers but to the math and see how much more surface is cut as you increase the hole size. If your drilling by hand use the smallest size you can get away with.

    If your only drilling a couple of holes a day it may not matter so much but if you get into ice 2 feet thick like High Point gets some years a manual auger gets to be a workout.
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 10:39:03 (permalink)
    To me 10 inch holes are dangerous to big, especially if their are kids around. I've been using a 5 inch auger for a number of years have yet not to get any fished hooked up through the hole. I've got an old Mora,but if jigmaster says Nils is good i know he's drilled a few holes in his day, i've tried the Lazers in 5 inch that worked very well also.
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 11:16:27 (permalink)
    Sharp blades make a big difference, I'd guess the used ones you're seeing for $25 will need a new set.
    I still don't like drilling manually with over a 6". Too much work when you're hole hopping looking for fish.
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 11:21:07 (permalink)
    if you buy one that is used the first thing i would do is buy new blades, although they may feel sharp enough to slice anything they may not cut ice.  if you do not do alot of ice fishing you can just go and buy a mora from gander mountain brand new for like 50 dollars and you will get many yrs out of it.  and also sometimes the workout feels good warms you up alittle.

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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 12:03:17 (permalink)

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    I agree 100%. I love mine too, however the OP doesn't sound like he's interested in purchasing a $500 power auger or $100 hand auger.

    FOM376, Most people start out with a cheaper Mora or lazer auger and will work well especially if you're not going to pop 20-30 holes/day. If you are going with a hand auger do yourself a favor and don't buy anything over 6". I love my 8" power auger because it gives me plenty of space for my flasher transducer etc., but if I had to hand drill every hole, it certainly wouldn't be over 6".

    Also keep in mind that if you buy used, there is a good chance you'll need new blades that will cost you $20-30 to replace with new blades, although there are places that do a blade swap. I'd buy new to be safe. $50 for a Mora from FishUSA.
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 12:15:55 (permalink)
    yea it is really up to you i have a manual 8 inch and i love it.  I am able to drill holes with no problem now that i put the new blades on it.  goes through 10-12 inches of ice with no problem

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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 13:00:35 (permalink)
    wow lots of responses! Thanks guys, this is all very helpful. I dont ice fish much, i live in Pittsburgh, and they took away North Park for now
    But i do go other places once in awhile. Hopefully gonna get to Erie over break. Sounds like a 10 inch is not a good idea. Ill go with a smaller one. Thanks again for all the advice. Merry Christmas!

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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 14:51:13 (permalink)
    I have caught steelhead that would not come up a 6 inch hole, And if the blabes are sharp it makes no diff the size of hole, but rather how deep it is....
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 15:46:49 (permalink)
    A 6" hole has a circumference of 19" and 28 1/4" square inches of surface area. 12" deep = a volume of 339 cubic inches
    7" hole has a circumference of 23" and 38 1/2 square inches of surface area. 12" deep = a volume of  462 cubic inches
    8" hole has a circumference of 25 1/8"  and 50 1/2 square inches of surface area. 12" deep = a volume of 606 cubic inches
    10" hole has a circumference of  31 1/2" and 78 1/2 square inches of surface area .  12" deep = a volume of 942 cubic inches

    This shows that a 10" hole 12" deep needs almost 3 times the volume of ice removed of a 6"
    Three 6" holes uses about the same energy to drill as one 10" and this does not account for the increased leverage
    post edited by pghmarty - 2010/12/22 16:11:19


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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 15:56:23 (permalink)
    wow that was intense lol but very good information where did you find that

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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 15:58:40 (permalink)
    Yeah, what he said ^
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 16:03:06 (permalink)
    Keep in mind when using a flasher the transducer takes up room in the hole. I never had a problem with an 8" hole. I bought a 8" power auger and will soon have a manual Strikemaster 8" Lazer for sale.
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 16:04:08 (permalink)
    I'm thinking school .
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    wow that was intense lol but very good information where did you find that

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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 16:05:22 (permalink)
    Volume of a cylinder


    V=pi x the radius squared x height of cylinder







    post edited by Bogeyjoker - 2010/12/22 16:09:32
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 16:09:52 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: eyeassassin

    wow that was intense lol but very good information where did you find that


    Jr high math class-I did cheat a little and used a calculator.



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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 16:16:33 (permalink)
    For the next lesson lets compare torque of a 3" radius to a 5" radius
    Nevermind this will give everyone a headache when you need to find the friction coefficient.



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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 16:38:12 (permalink)
    ahahahhaha

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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 16:38:55 (permalink)
    with the terrible day i am having at work i just laughed really loud after reading that thanks lol

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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/22 17:36:23 (permalink)
    I bought an adapter for my cordless drill a few years back. Best $20 I've spent on any ice gear. I use a 6" Strikemaster auger and can get around 30 holes from one battery if the ice is 8" thick. I usually take 3 batteries. Alot of times guys that have never seen one will come over to try it out and ask where to get one after seeing how well it works. You do need a drill with adjustable speeds and you have to use the lowest one. The adapter I have is made locally by a guy in Harborcreek.
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    RE: question on augers 2010/12/25 21:36:39 (permalink)
    mote and D-MAC saw my home made adapter for my 6in laser last year cost me about 75 cents for the mig wire all else was laying around the shop , who would have believed the pully nut off a geo metro alternator would fit a old style laser screw on handle
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