Very Disturbng...

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times/courier_times_news_details/article/28/2010/december/19/man-charged-in-hunters-death.html

Ironhed

ORIGINAL: ShutUpNFish

The fact that the shooter tried hiding it, shows what type of man he is.

 
Does it?  I would think anyone might panic a bit and not do the right thing.  He did confess, that should tell what kind of man he is.
 

It IS disturbing to know that there are gun hunters out there that will actually shoot before completely identifying what they're shooting at.

 
The article said he was shooting at a deer.  
 
 

 No excuses for it, but the combined season sure doesn't help IMO.

 
Are you saying if doe season wasn't open it wouldn't have happened?
 

 One of the few reasons I no longer partake in PA gun hunting anymore.

 
Yea, it's really dangerous out there.  It truly is a sport for real men.  Stay home.

HANG EM, I SAY HANG EM !!!!!!!!!!!!

and you'll know who the poachers and snaggers are. Of course, thats just a generality

Nothing like hanging someone because of their opinion. Generally, the conservaties are for harsh punishment for crimes and liberals are for lighter sentenses for criminals and try to justify their actions due to upbringing or poverty. I guess all liberals are crooks. Of course, that's just a generality

Did you even read the article? Reading and comprehending are two different things.

Does it? I would think anyone might panic a bit and not do the right thing. He did confess, that should tell what kind of man he is.

The article even states that "Ten days after the shooting, Marino admitted that he had been withholding information and told Bucks County Detectives what he knew. And Manilla, after a series of attempts to conceal that he'd killed Groh, confessed Thursday that he was the shooter, say authorities."
Pretty self explanitory to me....why was it until ten days later, the truth came out?

The article said he was shooting at a deer.

No it did NOT...go back and read...What he said was He was shooting at what he THOUGHT was a deer....theres a difference. Also hunting with an illegal weapon in Bucks Co. to boot??

"Manilla says he thought he had seen a deer; his bullet, however, found Groh, piercing the avid outdoorsman's upper left arm and chest. He was dead within a minute, authorities say"

So, I don't recall ever seeing any florescent orange deer runnin' around on their hind legs out there...

Are you saying if doe season wasn't open it wouldn't have happened?

Not at all...since you obviousy cannot comprehend all that you read, how could you possibly understand someone else's view on something? I'd rather not waste my time.

Yea, it's really dangerous out there. It truly is a sport for real men. Stay home.

Not gun hunting for several reasons, (not JUST this one, which again, you failed to comprehend)it is a personal choice. I still do my part in herd reduction year after year on a consistant basis and I don't even need a gun. But you sir are a true man, I know, because you're a fearless PA rifleman....I get that. Cool!

The guy shot a man and knew it at the time or shortly thereafter the incodent....THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT....unless its purely accidental, which this was not or the shot hit someone a long way away. He obviously pulled up on movement and shot to kill. I'm sorry, but nobody should be out there hunting with a gun that does not or CHOOSES not to CLEARLY identify his target before pulling the trigger.

Boy you just love takin my stuff off!!!!!

Yes it did!!!

As a retired Cop I gotta tell ya there are a few people there who will be seriously looked at. I would imagine his close family and friends knew about his past. If that State is like most others he would have been precluded from firearm possession and therefore from a gun hunting liscence -if the news article is accurate about his past convictions.. If thats the case he would have been commitng crimes before this incident even happened.
 In many states a death caused by someone already in the commision of a felony greatly increases the level of the crime committed.
 To call this guy a HUNTER is like calling a bank robber a CUSTOMER.

ORIGINAL: ShutUpNFish

Did you even read the article? Reading and comprehending are two different things.

Does it? I would think anyone might panic a bit and not do the right thing. He did confess, that should tell what kind of man he is.

The article even states that "Ten days after the shooting, Marino admitted that he had been withholding information and told Bucks County Detectives what he knew. And Manilla, after a series of attempts to conceal that he'd killed Groh, confessed Thursday that he was the shooter, say authorities."
Pretty self explanitory to me....why was it until ten days later, the truth came out?

The article said he was shooting at a deer.

No it did NOT...go back and read...What he said was He was shooting at what he THOUGHT was a deer....theres a difference. Also hunting with an illegal weapon in Bucks Co. to boot??

"Manilla says he thought he had seen a deer; his bullet, however, found Groh, piercing the avid outdoorsman's upper left arm and chest. He was dead within a minute, authorities say"

So, I don't recall ever seeing any florescent orange deer runnin' around on their hind legs out there...

Are you saying if doe season wasn't open it wouldn't have happened?

Not at all...since you obviousy cannot comprehend all that you read, how could you possibly understand someone else's view on something? I'd rather not waste my time.

Yea, it's really dangerous out there. It truly is a sport for real men. Stay home.

Not gun hunting for several reasons, (not JUST this one, which again, you failed to comprehend)it is a personal choice. I still do my part in herd reduction year after year on a consistant basis and I don't even need a gun. But you sir are a true man, I know, because you're a fearless PA rifleman....I get that. Cool!

The guy shot a man and knew it at the time or shortly thereafter the incodent....THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT....unless its purely accidental, which this was not or the shot hit someone a long way away. He obviously pulled up on movement and shot to kill. I'm sorry, but nobody should be out there hunting with a gun that does not or CHOOSES not to CLEARLY identify his target before pulling the trigger.

 
Shut up, I read the article.  Just because I didn't jump to conclusions after reading it doesn't mean I have reading comprehension problems.  Do you slander and belittle everyone who disagrees with you?  Maybe you should take 30 minutes and read your avatar some time. 
 
I can't blame a felon for trying to sneak in some hunting.  I'm not a felon, but I know I'd try to get away with it.  It's too big a part of my life to give up.  IMO there is no excuse for "mistaken for game" violations, however, that's not what was reported.  He said he was shooting at a deer and the victim was not wearing flo orange.  Maybe the victim was actually behind his target.  This is why we have trials with jurys of our peers.  They'll get to the bottom of what actually happened.  I think that beats the lynch mob mentality.
 
You never explained your statement "No excuses for it, but the combined season sure doesn't help ".
 
Oh, and I hunt with a rifle and bow since this matters to you.

Shut up, I read the article. Just because I didn't jump to conclusions after reading it doesn't mean I have reading comprehension problems. Do you slander and belittle everyone who disagrees with you? Maybe you should take 30 minutes and read your avatar some time.

No I don't belittle anyone unless they belittle me...have you forgotten what you wrote?

Yea, it's really dangerous out there. It truly is a sport for real men. Stay home.

I never directed my original post toward anyone here, it was merely my opinion in regards to what I read in the article and you jumped all over me. Just defending my thoughts and myself from an attempt of belittling me By the way, the guy WAS oviously wearing orange until he was gunned down. Even though it was just the hat, it was orange nonetheless. Still, ask yourself, do you think you would shoot at a guy even if he was in full camo?

ORIGINAL: tull66

I can't blame a felon for trying to sneak in some hunting.  I'm not a felon, but I know I'd try to get away with it.

Yep.

After allowing 10 days to pass before ANYONE of them told the truth to me is cause for all of them to get some sort of punishment... surely he will not be able to keep his lawyer license ????

As a convicted felon I find it hard to believe he was still practicing law anyhow ????

And.....waiting 40 minutes to call the police......and friggin leaving the victim, not trying to help him at all. Then, plugging the barrel of the 30-06 with dirt in an attempt to destroy it's evidentary value?
 
To me, this story tells EXACTLY what kind of guy this Manilla is.
 

ORIGINAL: S-10

and you'll know who the poachers and snaggers are. Of course, thats just a generality

Nothing like hanging someone because of their opinion. Generally, the conservaties are for harsh punishment for crimes and liberals are for lighter sentenses for criminals and try to justify their actions due to upbringing or poverty. I guess all liberals are crooks. Of course, that's just a generality

Take a look through the thread, Tull is the only one trying to justify/defend the guy, AND he admitted that if whe were a convicted felon he would illegaly hunt as well. Everyone else wants to throw the book at the guy, but the one person who came to his defense later admitted he'd hunt illegaly as well.

Did you ever think that maybe he is just jerking your chain You did leave yourself wide open with some of your comments. The guy sure sounds like a dirt bag but the reason for trial by jury is to try and separate the truth from the B.S.