tmiller..

I thought about that, I always go into them the exact same way from the house to my spot ..

Even after a few days of not hunting there I could not find any tracks, my #1 thought is because there are 2 "groups" of them running and feeding in the field at night together they are traveling with or along with who ever is the leader and that deer is not a let's go into those hemlocks critter so the rest just follow along.. ????

I'll get my pay-back though...

Instead of starting my back yard feeding Christmas Eve like always they will have to wait until January 15th after the late archery season ..

as for squirrel hunting ... I was taught to shoot them any way you can...

I do not see the big deal, I was just explaining why I have not shot a deer yet ??????


If a guy can take pride in shooting a bedded deer so be it... gheezz.... I just could not do that... it's just like the guys who shot cubs and fawns... it's legal and some think nothing about doing it.. others just don't do it....

No deer in the hemlocks? No corn in the either,food plots are not baiting piling corn is baiting! As to shooting a deer in it's bed 2 bucks,3 does W/rifle and 2 does with a flint in 46 years.I felt like those where some of my greatest hunts,sneeking up on a deer is a tough thing to do.

ORIGINAL: DarDys

Do you shoot turkeys on the ground?

LMAO!

Sometimes running too!

Hey 10,
Try and work a bedding area. Use the wind and terrain on wet quiet walking days and be as ssssllllloooowwww as you can possibly be. Make still hunting look like a hundred yard dash. Its neat-sometimes you can get so close it will surprise you and if your real quiet and slow and dont work the spot too much they wont spook out of it forever, remember though-there may be several and you have to see them first.
I dont hesitate to CRAWL  into an area either. Had a doe come in late and bed about 20 feet from me once, there were already a couple of others about 40 yards  out bed down. That was my best ever and will never happen again- sometmes the stars line up just right.

Right on the head with the age thing-here too
  My bud says "remember when we'd shootem and just grab a horn and drag" , the last big one we got had to be cut in half and we each took half out. It was a good size deer but not THAT big- we just got older.
 Thats one reason I take a hard look at the bedding areas -more than the old days. Less of a hike and more of a very long stalk.
 Find those bedding areas very early and work out a couple of entry lanes long before the season. Surprisingly they try to use those areas even under pressure on thier home turf.

not sure bedded deer would hurt my "one shot" record as I said = I do not see any trouble hitting a deer that is laying down resting or sleeping or even better yet standing still....,.

I just prefer standing still ..

I see too many deer running around here wounded after the season and I am sure most of those were hit while running..... all ready seen a doe with a dangling front leg on Thursday..
that's the #1 thing I love about AR.. not easy to count points on a running deer...so I think some of that style shooting has been reduced...

although I did hear this conversation over the radio one day...


BANG ---- BANG ---- BANG

"" Was that you ED ? ""

""YEAH""

""You get it?""

"" NOT SURE ""

"" What was it?""

""NOT SURE ""



Unbelievable === what can I say ??????

I agree with Doc 100%- how often do we hear bang bang bang real quick. I couldnt do that on  a range with a rest and a still target and be accurate. It happens regardless of sex or antler restrictions. Face it- there are some slobs out there and we responsible hunters pay the price of their actions- in many many ways they keep the antis full of ammo.
Yes 10 your point is well made-- responsible hunters do miss on occasion and unfortunately bad shots happen (nervs-brush etc) but the far and away majority is bang bang bang.
  Not many can make that TV 300 yard shot either but next time your at a club or with a bunch of guys throw it out there and see how many say they tried it, then ask them how often they ever practiced for it- on thier 100 yard range. When they reply " oh yeaaa I practice" ask them about bullet drop and wind affect and see how long it takes them to come up with some BS answer. It only the rare guy who is really into that.

What I don't do is accuse everyone of being a slob hunter or think that every injured deer is a result of a careless hunter like you seem to do Doc. Before HR there were 30,000 deer killed by vehicles and many thousands more running around injured. What slob shot them? (Guaranteed not to miss). Bet you didn't think you would miss at 10 yds either before it happened. (rarely sees or talks to the average hunter on public ground) That's another example of a B.S. biased statement from someone who doesn't even know me or where I hunt. (Holier than thou attitude) More B.S. from someone who thinks anyone who doesn't hunt the way he does is a outlaw slob hunter. I tend to believe in innocent until proven guilty. I think it is supposed to be that way in a democracy.
I'll agree with you when you type something you can back up with facts and not your biased opinions.

   Im not getting into any arguments over hunting-period. There are lots of guys out there with lots of ways to do it. Some more productive than others . Some of us really dont keep score and just go for the fun of it and some of us ( like myself) are so addicted we do it as a lifestyle.
    We are all doing basically the same thing in different ways. To some the season is judged by numbers and to some its judged by satisfaction.
    I missed a huge buck last year after passing all seasons waiting just for him. My muzzel loader went pop instead of bang (just the cap) after stalking to about 30 yards in his bed - second to last day of the year. Had all the fun and none of the work. He ran off and I laughed out loud.
  My opinion was that it was a very succesful season. Some guys might cry about it and grouse about a clogged pin hole but the way I see it-part of the game.  Another guy may work just as hard and wait all year for a yearling - no stone throwing - just different strokes.
  10--Took a small fork a few years ago on the first day of rifle season in an area where I had the only permit to hunt and there were several really nice racks.
   He came in early to a scent I had out and he was limping badly. I passed and then got up and followed him till I got a clean shot. He had  a partially healed compound fracture on a  back leg and was nothing but coyote bait. Sometimes those things happen. Ya gotta give back now and then.

"Basically I screwed up because it was the first shot from a tree stand and I was allowing for the "drop" my compound launched arrow would have had and I forgot about the crossbow being so much more powerful.. thus not near the "drop".. shot went high over the back... "
 
 

Maybe it's time for you to get off your high horse and stop lecturing folks on what shots to take or practicing, or bragging about not missing shots. You missed once because you didn't take the time to practice and get familiar with your weapon and missed another because by your own admission it was beyond your skill level. By your own definition that makes you either a poor hunter or a slob hunter . Either you need to change your definition or stop doing the things you define as slob hunting. S--t happens to all of us at times but your the only one that does the exact opposite of what he preach's to the rest of us.

Who was it that said Quote- Had it been a shot with my rifle I would not have missed, guaranteed -End Quote---and this was After he already did miss with the rifle. Maybe not a lie but sure not not the truth

I know I have and won't try to deny it.

where do I begin ?????????

Had it been a shot with my rifle I would not have missed, guaranteed -End Quote---and this was After he already did miss with the rifle

I would not have missed because it was a 10 yard shot not a couple hundred yards.... I was referring to the miss with the crossbow in archery season.... weeks before the miss in rifle season... so NO I had not already missed with a rifle....gheezz.....

All those slob Compound elists that were to lazy to practice stick deer all the time...

Never said that... what I said was there are alot of compound shooters who are not as good as they think they are or past that there are... and as I recall I said most of the "stuck deer" are from taking poor shots... guys even posted about taking "poor" shots and were called on it... proving my point once again...

But if my bow is dropping at 10 yards so much that I have to compensate....Hmmmmmmm..

do you know how my bow shoots..NO  do you know the weight of my arrows... NO do you know the weight of my broadheads...NO  do you know the height of the tree stand I was in for the first time.. NO.... all of those could and do effect arrow flight... you the expert should know that...
so how in the hell do you know anything about the shot or my 50 year old compound other than just another of your MANY attempts at be-littling me ????

1. Bought a new weapon in season and did not practice and be familiar with it's abilities.

How do you know how much I practiced ?????  You claim I did not practice just because I missed one shot....  wait another couple weeks and see how I do from the ground and/or the fact I NOW know I do not have to compensate for drop with a crossbow.... I still have my 4 tags to fill... should I fill them all just to prove a point ????

Heck maybe the bolt hit a branch I did not see.. after all --- I could watch my arrow in flight from the Bear whitetail.. not so with the Horton....

You always said crossbows and compounds were equal in power.. What has changed that yours is now so powerful...

what world do you live in ????

many of today's compounds are as fast as crossbow....  some probably faster than the Horton model I bought...my SLOW bear was part of the reason I was in favor of crossbows...

Every shoot a crossbow ?????

That thing could shoot 1 inch groups at 30 yards OUT OF THE BOX.... even the guy who has the archery shop told me I would be SHOCKED at how accurate it was  "out of the box"


the fact they are so accurate from the start is one reason many here complained about them... " don't need to spend all that time practicing"....

I have NEVER denied that the miss was due to me not 100% understand my new crossbow... you guys are the ones making it more than that with the no practice, etc..

"This is only a fishing board and doesn't really count."

don't remember if that is exactly what I said or meant or how you took it... anyhow.. what I meant was the pole had about 30 replies out of thousands of members.... so really not a good showing for the members here... and most folks who dis-agree with some of you do not reply to this site anyhow,,, they see the abuse they will get .....

have no real plans on filling all the tags..   just my usual two deer...

BTW = Had I never shot a compound or at least not thought about my old one -  I may not have missed ????????

just like SOME fly-fisherman.. I "hammer" folks that think because of the weapon or style fishing they use makes them any better than anyone else...