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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 11:28:51
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ORIGINAL: ubertracker
Now, for my tirade. I recently opened a thread titled "Fly rod/Fish pics".
ORIGINAL: rapala11
as the originator of the fly rod/fish pics post.......... Rich, you elitist snob. See what you did? I new that thread you started was eventually going to lead to dissention among the ranks. You need to be more sensitive to our spin fishing brethren. Can they not be considered sophisticated anglers,too? At least for argument sake? What about the pinners? Sure they have low standards when it comes to C&R practices, but I've seen a couple of good ones. Why just last week I saw one release a nice male brown trout. Didn't even stop to take a picture before he booted it back into the water. To our forum members, Guys and Gals, we need to bash every single questionable pic of "rod and fish". Even those posted by our highly sophisticated fly fishermen. That way no one becomes offended or felt left out. Don't forget those junior fly fishers. They are our future flamers. I'll start: Ubertracker, quit fishing for trout when the water is too warm. C&R in warm water is lethal to trout. Bings, nice pics. Good job. But, you catch too many fish. Stop catching so many fish.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 11:33:37
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Perhaps I came across as an @ss. This was not my intention. I personally prefer to fly fish. I have seen "bait guys" that were slobs and I have seen "fly guys" that were yuppies. I like to think that both were in the minority of overall fishermen. But I have to agree with uber that there is a double standard when it comes to fly vs. spin fishing on this site. It often comes from the "regulars" here. I also like to think that most anti-spinfishing comments are all in fun and I am fine with that. You "regulars" are the ones that keep this site going and I applaud you for that. But at any given time there are also thousands of "non-regulars" that are reading your posts and not always understanding that many comments are all in fun. And this is why us fly guys are viewed as elitists on here and probably always will be. We do it to ourselves and actually deserve it. just my 2 cents
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 11:40:11
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blah blah blah enough already.
"Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men." Matthew 4:19
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 11:50:05
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Curses! We're too late. 
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rapala11
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 12:13:25
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dano, i did it again, eh? 
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 12:31:23
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  For all i know they were kept, but the thing that really gets me, is the fact that no one, not one single negative comment was made towards the treatment of these fish. Thats probably because none of them were REALLY being mistreated. NOTHING in any of those pictures, was hurting any of those fish.....people just need to get over the "purist" "extremist" attitudes.
post edited by ShutUpNFish - 2010/12/11 12:34:22
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 12:59:04
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I am sorry if I offended anyone. I am going back to only reading posts not posting comments. Also for the record, the smart@ss comments are the only reason I read these forums. I personally enjoy them.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 13:06:32
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Ok, so personally speaking this is what I'm getting out of this thread.
First, I want to try to not get so upset by other fishermen. In general I've had a negative opinion of fly fishermen because I've stereotyped them and I want to try and stop that.
Second, I want to do a better job with my own picture taking practices. When I look back through my photos I see that most of them are taken in shallow water along the bank, on wet rocks, or at least on wet netting. However, I also see some where I'm farther up the bank and the ground is too try.
ubertracker is great at picture taking. He can give you better details but I know he uses some sort of floating table. He also catches way more fish that are picture worthy than I do.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 13:24:38
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Haha who cares man there just fish its people like you that make my day
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 20:24:39
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this site never changes.. same attitudes no matter the time of year.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 20:27:09
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hey ffpa, where you been? you haven't a girl friend now, do you? i am going to have to talk to your dad. young guys like you are supposed to think only about fishing, right...............  ? hope all is well with you and your dad.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 22:31:56
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haha, well reading up on the Erie feed really makes me really wanna travel north. Unfortunately I've been alittle busy making high school my b1tch, but roaming the forums makes the cold memories come back!
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 22:53:07
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ORIGINAL: ubertracker
These are about as close to native as you can get.. They were probably only 2-6 inches when they were originally stocked. Some might be native, because there are some local tribs that have natural reproduction of browns so some might be native.
I'd like to nominate this post for "Dumbest post of the Month... December 2010"
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/11 23:07:55
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+1 
I have become comfortably numb
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/12 09:50:59
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Have you ever seen them try and get up a waterfall when the water was low? Talk about a beating and banging. Then they usualy end up sliding back down to start all over again. Somehow they live through all of that.
There will be days when fishing is better than ones optimistic forecast, others when it is far worse. Either is a gain over just staying home. **Roderick Haig-Brown
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/12 11:14:59
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ORIGINAL: KJH807
ORIGINAL: ubertracker
These are about as close to native as you can get.. They were probably only 2-6 inches when they were originally stocked. Some might be native, because there are some local tribs that have natural reproduction of browns so some might be native.
I'd like to nominate this post for "Dumbest post of the Month... December 2010"
+886.1
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/12 12:42:19
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ORIGINAL: go-n-fishn
Have you ever seen them try and get up a waterfall when the water was low? Talk about a beating and banging. Then they usualy end up sliding back down to start all over again. Somehow they live through all of that.
Ah, ah, aahhh. No observations that call our "fish are fragile" beliefs here. I reject your observable reality and replace it with my own. Seriously though, they can be fragile. If you are going to release it, less handling is always better. I usually wet my hands before grabbing a fish so as not to take too much of he protective slime off from it, try to keep its head up, nose it into the current and let it swim out of my hand, etc.... It might be a feel good thing, but I want to give a released fish every chance.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/12 14:31:58
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Blah blah blah, and yakkity yack about some fish! They're tough buggers.
I love how this post filled up so quickly because you called out fly fishermen. The snobs!(sarcasm)(or was it?)(was that sarcasm too?). You leave them and their fancy pants(expensive waders) alone. They can't help that their sticks are just bigger(expensive rod). Do you have any idea how much more skill it requires to move your hand if 2 directions as opposed to 1 while casting? So what if it takes 543534453435 motions to cast just as far as a spin guy(whoops, now it's snagged in a tree behind me. better start over) Then there's the stripping the fly in by hand(if only they made some sort of cranking device). You're so exhausted by the time you get home that it doesn't matter that you only caught a few fish. It doesn't matter if those bait guys catch more they are horrible people.(even if they lose more bait feeding the fish than actually catching or throat hooking them)
Go fish for musky. You'll never worry about the condition of a trout, while letting it go, again. Musky burn a ton more energy during a fight, and take alot more care to see off.
I'm a fly guy for life, fools. Just depends on what I'm fishing for.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/12 14:34:18
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ORIGINAL: wrighter00
Blah blah blah, and yakkity yack about some fish! They're tough buggers.
I love how this post filled up so quickly because you called out fly fishermen. The snobs!(sarcasm)(or was it?)(was that sarcasm too?). You leave them and their fancy pants(expensive waders) alone. They can't help that their sticks are just bigger(expensive rod). Do you have any idea how much more skill it requires to move your hand if 2 directions as opposed to 1 while casting? So what if it takes 543534453435 motions to cast just as far as a spin guy(whoops, now it's snagged in a tree behind me. better start over) Then there's the stripping the fly in by hand(if only they made some sort of cranking device). You're so exhausted by the time you get home that it doesn't matter that you only caught a few fish. It doesn't matter if those bait guys catch more they are horrible people.(even if they lose more bait feeding the fish than actually catching or throat hooking them)
Go fish for musky. You'll never worry about the condition of a trout, while letting it go, again. Musky burn a ton more energy during a fight, and take alot more care to see off.
I'm a fly guy for life, fools. Just depends on what I'm fishing for.
just when i thought the dumbest post couldn't be beat...
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/12 14:53:17
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ORIGINAL: KJH807
just when i thought the dumbest post couldn't be beat...
haha. <3 Seriously, mad love, bro. I have your "back country trout" post, amongst my own desires, to thank for my avatar. Now, if only we could all get along. I apologise if anyone has ever taken me too seriously, but what can I do? This site is too funny. I can't resist sometimes.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/12 15:08:19
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LOL wrighter... you are a gem edit: if you're exhausting yourself fly fishing, might be time to take up another sport or hobby.. scrap booking maybe?
post edited by Ginnis - 2010/12/12 15:09:56
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/12 20:28:10
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Did you here no more fly fishing permitted on Erie tribs?
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Ginnis
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/12 20:37:33
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fine by me, i'll be pinning.
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/13 10:56:42
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The title of this thread shows me this thread was just started to bash fly fisherman. Something that I find funny is that until this thread, the fish on the rocks issue was never a fly vs spin debate. In threads that I've read where fly fishermen pointed out that the fish in the pics were on the rocks, the fly guys never mentioned the guys tackle, or made mention that spin fishermen give spin fisherman a bad name. You guys can talk all you want about your dislike of fly fishermen, but before you continue I suggest you spend some time observing on fly fishing only regulated water, or water that is mostly fished with fly rods. If you do, you'll notice a few things... The first will be a lack of litter. There will be no styro worm containers, snelled hook packaging, or other garbage strewn along the banks. Also, there will be no birds nests of stren balled up and left, or stuck in the brush. Secondly, you'll notice the fish are generally in better shape. Their mouths will not be ripped to shreds by spin fishermen's treble hooked lures, and there will be no snelled hooks hanging out of their mouths from a bait fisherman. You'll see fish that look as though they've never been caught, because the barbless hook they were caught on, didn't have to be ripped out by a pair of pliers. Lastly, you'll notice a bunch of polite anglers who don't crowd the heck out of a spot because they believe the stock truck may have dumped some right there. Instead, you'll find anglers who give each other their space and rarely fish on top of each other without asking first. Despite popular belief, none of these anglers will be wearing tweed jackets. I know I went a little off topic, but I had to address the whole disliking fly fisherman post from outfortrout.
post edited by thedrake - 2010/12/13 11:00:42
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/13 11:04:05
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i'm sure some flyguys leave a fly or two behind in a fish's mouth (or back) on occasion much like a snelled hook 
go back to spain 11-12-11: the last time i got punched in the face
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/13 11:05:49
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Holy ****
4 pages and counting...
All over fish touching rocks. It really angers me when I see guys on the stream letting the fish get wet and even worst when they hold their heads under the water. Don't they think they need to breath too?
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. 
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RE: Flyfishermen give flyfishermen a bad name.
2010/12/13 11:25:18
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ORIGINAL: 350Z&Steelheads
Holy ****
4 pages and counting...lmao
All over fish touching rocks. It really angers me when I see guys on the stream letting the fish get wet and even worst when they hold their heads under the water. Don't they think they need to breath too?
I have become comfortably numb
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