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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/11 08:42:24
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not going to be hunting with the tc this year but i do have a question if someone could help? bought the gun a 2 years ago off of someone and off a bench is shoots about 8 inches high with the sight moved all the way. any ideas? im not sure how many grains i am shooting because on the measure he gave me the number was worn away but i just bought a new one so i can know for sure and adjust if i was using to much powder. if this don't work anyone have any other ideas?
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/11 08:47:00
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Change sights.Get a good quality Fib.optic sight,I put a Williams on mine and I'm pleased.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/11 14:03:52
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ORIGINAL: Ironhed Tuna, Do you wanna sell that Firestorm? Fishin 'Yote, Wanna sell yet? Ironhed LMAO I wondered if that comment/offer would surface Mike
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/11 15:09:20
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ORIGINAL: CRANKMASTER Big Tuna, Sorry but not interested in selling or trading. I bought a new .50 cal firestorm for my son to use last year but we never made it out. The firestorm is a nice gun. The only problem we have with it is the pan powder kept leaking out of the pan! You really have to keep it level at all times and check it frequently. Found that out this year in the early season. My renegade seals the pan pretty good, I can lean it up againt trees, lay it across my lap and walk around with it and the powder seems to stay in there. quick fix for keeping the powder in the pan is to run a small line of RTV (or other silicone) around the outer edge of the pan... did this with my lyman and haven't had a problem keeping the pan full
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/11 16:26:42
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Gotta sit this year out. I don't have a doe tag for 1B and already used my buck. But when there isn't 3 feet of snow and I have a tag, I use a Traditions PA pellet, nickel barrel, gray laminate stock, and set trigger. I propel a 240 grain hollow point sabot with 100 grains of 777. That combo works for me and if I can keep my head down, holds good groups at 50 yards. To keep snow off the lock, I have a light fleece hat that I loosely wrap around. Can't beat a 10 degree morning with fresh snow and not another hunter in sight.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/11 19:01:04
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Resisted temptation as long as I could. Wife says" bring one home, I want deer steak". A fat 7 point fell to the .50 caliber Traditions at 7:30 this morning. Spine shot, no tracking. Wife happy, all is well....WF
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/11 23:23:27
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Ironhed,I bought the firestorm for my son it's 10 years old and used very little,maybe two seasons.It's up to him on selling it, when he goes he uses my 54 because he like the set trigger and the way it shoots,if it was mine I'd sell it today.If he wants to sell it,its yours or anybody that wants it.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/12 09:09:27
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I'd like to buy a flintlock so if anyone has one they would consider selling, send me a PM.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/12 10:56:53
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traditions deerhunter or a PA pellet with a set trigger. always shot 90grains of goex black powder and a 245 grain power belt or .44cal 200 grain xtp in a sabot. simply just cut the end off a sock and slide it over the stock of the gun to help keep snow out.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/12 14:10:04
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ORIGINAL: CRANKMASTER Those of you that shoot the powerbelts,has anyone ever experienced the tumbling effect of the slug when it leaves the barrel? I've heard some poeple say they tumble instead of spinning from the twist in the barrel. Depends on the twist of your barrel. Long, heavy projectiles will not stablize in slow twist barrels. They need fast twist such as 1/28. The Firestorm has a 1/48 twist and many flintlocks have 1/66. Shorter, lighter projectiles will stabilize better in slower twist barrels. The 245 Powerbelts are grouping great for me. Anything over 300 grains will not group in my gun.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/12 22:23:48
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LMAO So that's a yes!?!?!? Bull, Wanna sell that Firestorm? Ironhed
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/12 23:32:04
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lol i'll let you know. i've thought about it before. i'd hate to not have it incase i feel like getting into it again. i havent gone out with one in about...10 years though..but thats not saying i wouldnt ever again. if i decide i'll definetly let you know.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/13 09:57:09
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/13 10:22:10
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Dropped the hammer twice Saturday. Missed 'em both. I can group a 6 inch at 100 yards but I can't hit them at 30 moving. Had another one stand at 10 yards while a piece of my ramrod got stuck. Gotta shoot it out.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/13 14:36:19
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What kind of rod did you break? How do you get a piece stuck ? Just curious.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/13 14:56:38
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Homemade. I ran a patch fine but the second one got stuck. The rod that comes with the deerstalker is plastic, light, and very flimsy. Made some at a machine shop which are very strong but the end piece popped off. Time to take the gun apart and load her that way. When something gets stuck, I usually put the gun in a heavy vise, create a wick to the pan, light it, and run like hell. Fun Fun.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/13 16:43:41
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Try blowing it out with compressed air though the touch hole first. Why did you not make your ramrod from one piece? 2024 aluminum works fine. Thread the one end for a jag,worm,brush,ect. Take the other end and use a ball end mill to put in a concave radius matching the type of projectile you shoot most. You do this and you will never have another ram rod problem again. ORIGINAL: SilverKype Homemade. I ran a patch fine but the second one got stuck. The rod that comes with the deerstalker is plastic, light, and very flimsy. Made some at a machine shop which are very strong but the end piece popped off. Time to take the gun apart and load her that way. When something gets stuck, I usually put the gun in a heavy vise, create a wick to the pan, light it, and run like hell. Fun Fun.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/13 16:55:34
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ORIGINAL: dpms ORIGINAL: CRANKMASTER Those of you that shoot the powerbelts,has anyone ever experienced the tumbling effect of the slug when it leaves the barrel? I've heard some poeple say they tumble instead of spinning from the twist in the barrel. Depends on the twist of your barrel. Long, heavy projectiles will not stablize in slow twist barrels. They need fast twist such as 1/28. The Firestorm has a 1/48 twist and many flintlocks have 1/66. Shorter, lighter projectiles will stabilize better in slower twist barrels. The 245 Powerbelts are grouping great for me. Anything over 300 grains will not group in my gun. How are you determining the amount of twist in the barrel of your muzzleloaders? I have two Thompson Center .50 caliber Hawken flintlocks. Both shoot round balls well but I did not get the groups I wanted with sabots. I have checked the manuals I got with the guns when I bought them and I can’t find anything that states the amount of twist in the barrel nor is there any thing stamped on the barrel. I am assuming they are at least a 1:48 twist but don’t really know for sure. In any event I think I am going back to a patched round ball this year. R.S. Bodenhorn
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/13 17:45:09
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ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures Try blowing it out with compressed air though the touch hole first. Why did you not make your ramrod from one piece? 2024 aluminum works fine. Thread the one end for a jag,worm,brush,ect. Take the other end and use a ball end mill to put in a concave radius matching the type of projectile you shoot most. You do this and you will never have another ram rod problem again. ORIGINAL: SilverKype Homemade. I ran a patch fine but the second one got stuck. The rod that comes with the deerstalker is plastic, light, and very flimsy. Made some at a machine shop which are very strong but the end piece popped off. Time to take the gun apart and load her that way. When something gets stuck, I usually put the gun in a heavy vise, create a wick to the pan, light it, and run like hell. Fun Fun. That is exactly how it was made but the concave piece is separate and attached. I do have a high pressure compressor and will try that. thanks.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 03:35:15
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ORIGINAL: RSB ORIGINAL: dpms ORIGINAL: CRANKMASTER Those of you that shoot the powerbelts,has anyone ever experienced the tumbling effect of the slug when it leaves the barrel? I've heard some poeple say they tumble instead of spinning from the twist in the barrel. Depends on the twist of your barrel. Long, heavy projectiles will not stablize in slow twist barrels. They need fast twist such as 1/28. The Firestorm has a 1/48 twist and many flintlocks have 1/66. Shorter, lighter projectiles will stabilize better in slower twist barrels. The 245 Powerbelts are grouping great for me. Anything over 300 grains will not group in my gun. How are you determining the amount of twist in the barrel of your muzzleloaders? I have two Thompson Center .50 caliber Hawken flintlocks. Both shoot round balls well but I did not get the groups I wanted with sabots. I have checked the manuals I got with the guns when I bought them and I can’t find anything that states the amount of twist in the barrel nor is there any thing stamped on the barrel. I am assuming they are at least a 1:48 twist but don’t really know for sure. In any event I think I am going back to a patched round ball this year. R.S. Bodenhorn http://www.blackpowderjournal.com/archives/vol2no3/articles/BPJ23-5.htm Ironhed
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 07:54:00
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ORIGINAL: RSB I have two Thompson Center .50 caliber Hawken flintlocks. Both shoot round balls well but I did not get the groups I wanted with sabots. I would bet that they are 1/66 which is a very slow twist designed for round balls. Most of the older flints were 1/66. Pa. is the market for flintlock hunting rifles and when Pa. legalized conicals, the manufacturers responded with some faster twists to shoot them. The Firestorm being one. The marketed the faster twist in that particular rifle. While 1/48 is faster than 1/66, it still is not fast enough for most saboted and conical bullets.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 08:13:21
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Even at 1/66 it should shoot a sabot pretty decent. I cant see the groups being that different to go back to round balls. I know alot of deer been killed with round balls but if you can use sabots its a easy choice. I have a Tompson and a traditions pretty sure both 1/66 and both shoot sabots pretty good.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 09:05:11
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ORIGINAL: rollcaster I have a Tompson and a traditions pretty sure both 1/66 and both shoot sabots pretty good. Sure they can shoots sabots pretty good. Especially the lighter ones. I think you will find though that if time is spent with different loads that shorter lighter conicals, balls or Hornady's Pa. Conical will be the most accurate with slow twists.
post edited by dpms - 2010/12/16 10:39:33
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 10:59:08
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anybody run Powerbelts through a flinter?
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 12:07:22
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ORIGINAL: psu_fish anybody run Powerbelts through a flinter? Yep. After several years of doing alot of missing I decided to spend some serious range time this summer with my 1/48 Firestorm. Settled on 245 grain Aerotip Powerbelts behind 90 grains of loose FFG blackpowder. Was getting a honest one ragged hole at 50.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 13:53:29
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"I have two Thompson Center .50 caliber Hawken flintlocks. Both shoot round balls well but I did not get the groups I wanted with sabots." Many years back, I had a TC 50 cal flinter, couldnt get it to shoot conicals, and it shot roundballs only "fair". A bud bought a Lyman 54 cal. deer stalker (1/48 twist) a while back and when he got it, i shot it at the range and @ 50 yrds it cut one jagged hole or at worst touching clover leafs consistently, using 400 grain maxiballs, and 90GR ffg. I bought one that year. Same deal, great shooter. Dad was impressed and put away his 54 cal renegade and also bought one. Same consistent accuracy. Another buddy of ours bought one for his wife. Same accuracy. Was surprised, thought thered be alot of variation between that many rifles... But not at all. We went and bought a maxiball mold and have hundreds of maxis. Great gun. Light and handles very well, not clumsy like some longer rifles. Id highly recommend them to anyone who would consider using one of the conical type bullets.
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 17:05:15
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At what distance do most of you sight in your muzzleloader, 50 yds? Although I was going to borrow a buddy's Firestorm for flintlock season, it appears I may now just buy one. With Ironhed's advice, I will more than likely use a load that he mentioned on the first page (2 PyroDex and 295 grain Powerbelt HP) With that in mind, what kind of performance can I expect out to 100 yds? I suspect it will drop some?
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 17:11:17
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Hollow or Areo tip ? ORIGINAL: dpms ORIGINAL: psu_fish anybody run Powerbelts through a flinter? Yep. After several years of doing alot of missing I decided to spend some serious range time this summer with my 1/48 Firestorm. Settled on 245 grain Aerotip Powerbelts behind 90 grains of loose FFG blackpowder. Was getting a honest one ragged hole at 50.Â
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 17:32:05
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Traditional long guns such as the Pennsylvania Long Rifle are best suited to shoot round balls 1:66. Many shorter 1:48 guns will shoot them well also. The T/C Hawkin with 90 gr of FF and a.015 Ox-Yoke and a Speer.490 RB should satisfy most. 3"-3.5" at 100
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RE: Flintlock Season Is Soon Approaching
2010/12/16 18:40:40
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