Berkely vs. Seaguar

I like Vanish but I might try out the Seaguar.Here in Clarion Co. its easier to walk into Wal-mart and buy Vanish

I used berkely vanish for a few years and did like it, though most on this board don't.  To each his own.  I switched to Spiderwire flouro and love it.  My buddy swears by seagur.  He uses for just about every species he fishes for.

Lots of people here really pour the Haterade on Vanish. Before I took up a fly rod, I used it, with success, in 2# test on my ultralight and really liked it, though the extremely light line probably helped it to behave.

For Erie, what little spin fishing I do, I use Seaguar InvizX in 6# test and have been extremely pleased with it.

Great point, Shutupnfish.  I've been thinking about trying out some seagur and maybe some sufix or pline.  I have become very comfortable with Spiderwire but am always willing to give other brand a try.  Once this spool runs out maybe I'll give it a shot.

Why not use a quality mono line and then add 3 ft. flouro leader?

Trout man, if you spool 100% 6# floro, your going to get way to many break offs.  Floro isn't as rugged and doesn't stretch as well as mono, these fish will run up and down the creek rubbing your line against anything they can.

Trust me spool your spinning real with 6 or 8# mono and use a 6# floro leader.  I prefer 8# mono main line with a 3' 6# floro leader.

Cold, I just don't like the flouro as a mainline for a few reasons... its usually stiffer and doesn't seem to cast as nicely, its expensive and it sinks. I bet they'll come out with a flouro that does all those things eventually if not already.

If the fluoro is so bad and abrasion-vulnerable, and break-off prone, why are you putting it on your line in a position where its getting the most abrasion and most likelihood of breaking off?

I use fluoro for a leader because of the low clear conditions often found in Erie.  If the water is up and green or murky then I will use a mono leader.  It's more about the stretch than the abrasion resistance.  Mono has lots of stretch but fluoro has very little.  If you think fluoro is as strong as mono then I'm calling "bullsheet" on you Cold!

Try this experiment in NY for King Salmon.  Take two identical spinning rods and spool one with #12 mono and the other with #12 fluoro and tell me which breaks more often and quicker?  I've done this twice, once with Berkley and once with Stren, it's not even close.  Every tackle shop in Pulsaki will tell you the same thing also.  Or try this experiment in Erie with 4# line.

Fluro might work better on a fly rod, because of the additional pressure that the fly rod absorbs compared to a spinning rod.

So why do you need stretch?

Monofilament line stretches, which can be bad or good.  Stretch makes line more forgiving when a big fish makes a strong run, but it also makes it harder to set the hook.  The amount of stretch can be controlled by the additives but all monofilament will stretch some.

http://fishing.about.com/library/weekly/aa111702a.htm

In Erie I rarely ever break my main line.  In Pulaski NY when fishing King Salmon it's pretty common unless your using 18+#  line or are fishing in an area where you can actually let a fish run and it's not shoulder to shoulder.

Whatever dude.

If you're getting 'way too many' breakoffs by spooling up with 6# fluoro, you're doing something wrong.

Then you're doing something wrong.

Just sayin'

Just offering my opinion.  Never claimed to be the "perfect" fisherman who never makes a mistake like you are implying about yourself. 

Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I still catch plenty of Salmon, Steelhead, and trout to keep me happy almost every time out.  I feel confident in my ability to catch Steelhead after more than 30 years of experience trout fishing year round. 

I have also heard allot of people on these very boards complain about 6# line breaking to often when spin fishing in faster water, and allot of guys who use 8# line in Erie when the water is high and off colored.

I agree...I never use anything less that 8# mainline. 4lb. mainline is too light.

I'm gonna go right ahead and call a BIG FAT BS right there!!!!!

I use 4# McCoy Mean Green as a mainline and 6# Cabelas No-Vis flouro for leader. This is on a 10.5 ft. St. Croix noodle rod with very few break off's. This has been my set up for years now. Cabelas No-Vis seems to me to have much better knot strength than Vanish. Call BS if you like but it is what it is.

Im gonna have to side whith shutupnfish on this one. It is pointless to use a heavier leader than your main line. I would love to see how you land a fish on 3.7lb line in a jam packed hole with no problems. There is no reason to use any heavier than 6lb line until march or april then I will use 4lb.