As for how far do I thing I should claim, I would say completely out of any sight line and then some.

 
so dar for the sake of arguement,  let's say the owner gave permission to someone else to hunt, you built stands every 200 - 300 yrds all over the property, do you expect to be the only person hunting that property, even though you can only hunt 1 stand at a time?

Sure, but to sit there and purposely aggravate the other hunter is a SLOB in my book. Looks like the shoe fits. enough said....

ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout

The year this happened I was still archery hunting.. I had hunted and scouted in this area several times during archery season, and never saw anyone or any stands. I will confess that while I am walking thru the woods scouting I do not spend alot of time looking up into trees for tree stands... and as I said.. it is public land.. first come first served...

call me what you want.. I was in the right.. I was there first... and to get up and leave because of that arse.... no way.. I was not brought up that way ... I was not backing down because I was in the right and I stand up for myself when that is the case.. had he been there first I would have QUICKLY AND QUIETLY returned to the truck and moved to some other spot.

If he was willing to sit there and put up with me rather than move ... so be it.... I always have the next day to harvest a deer....


If everytime someone happens along and I got up and left them have the spot on public grounds.

I'd spend half a day moving trying to get a place until someone else came along...

it's called hunting public land...

there's no way I'm going to believe you guys are going to get up and move if some one does the same to you... heck last year all I was reading here is how guys wanted to kick butt because someone came thru "their area" small game hunting or deer hunting while they were in a tree... make up your minds ???

ORIGINAL: RIZ

As for how far do I thing I should claim, I would say completely out of any sight line and then some.

so dar for the sake of arguement,  let's say the owner gave permission to someone else to hunt, you built stands every 200 - 300 yrds all over the property, do you expect to be the only person hunting that property, even though you can only hunt 1 stand at a time?

 
I can't even engage in that arguement because it is about as likely to happen as winning the lottery without buying a ticket.
 
When my Father, brother, and I all hunted this property we had a total of 3 stands, all built with the permission of the landowner, all within at total distance of 500 yards, all well marked and known to those that hunted the property regularly.  Now that my father no longer hunts and my brother is dead, those two stands have been removed.  That means there is one permanent stand on the property -- mine.
 
It should not be very hard to avoid 1 stand on over 450 acres on this landowners property, especially since the stand is more or less geometrically centered on it and that land is surrounded by about 3000 acres of other ground that is also private but permits the public to hunt.  Sometimes I think it is like being on a pod of fish and somebody needs to be in your vest pocket even though when you look up and down the stream there is no one else in sight and there are plenty of places for them to fish other than within spitting distance.
 
But to entertain your idea, I would never build a bunch of stands all over the property.  I see no need for it.  This stand has been in the same place for the last 37 years (when the permanent stand got just a little too scary for last year, I did install a two-person ladder stand -- it is about 15 yards from the permanent stand, which is still in place to basically mark the spot) and there has never been any reason to move it.
 
I have two points here, I believe -- 1) if I scouted into an area on private ground that I never hunted before and found a permanent stand, I would not hunt near it, ever, out of respect for the landowner or their proxy that built it and if that meant not being able to hunt the property at all because there was no way to avoid the permanent stands, I would not hunt the property and 2) this thread was about the antics of people hunting too near people on public land on which there are no "claims" to a spot other than being there first, which is weak at best, and I wanted to point out that even on private ground, with a the strongest possible claim to a spot, there were still hunters willing to plunk themselves down way to close.
 
I would tend to think if I were asking someone for permission to hunt their property that one of the first questions I would ask would be, where are the stand on the property that I should avoid.  Maybe I am just too courteous.

i hunt on private land and keep my treestand there year around.  i hunt it in archery rifle and flintlock and have for the past 6 yrs, and every year there are ppl who come in off the bordering public land and throw stands up within 50 yards of mine and my brothers the day before rifle.  last year opening day of rifle my brother had about 6 ppl within a hundred yards. all there stands went up a couple days before rifle season. i would say these people were way to close and had no respect.

I have several properties and no longer give permission for people to have permanant stands. Reason being is
that I hunt and I now have enough areas that I feel are not mine anymore. These permanant stands even keep me from
utilizing my own properties. Also I am sick and tired of all the disgarded stands that were not removed after
stands became unusable. I also do not allow anyone to use climbers or ladder stands that cut into the bark in any way.
Also no hunters are to climb cherry or white oak trees. I have to argue with hunters every year, most are polite
the others are evicted.

i can see the whole not building...i've been hunting an area now for who knows how long really now i have a guy on the ground that thinks he can walk up on deer and asked me how long i've been hunting "here" as where he found me in my climber the first day and i said longer then you. he simply went. oh. then he said he killed a doe "right here" the other day, during the 2b early season. i was like "great" in a sarcastic tone. becuase he just shot at a 6 point that was bedded 30 yards by me...missed, there was a button buck with him and he claims to have shot at it.


far as a vote goes if a stand is around, i usually go somewhere else, unless it was magically put in the tree i use...i know its harder for a hunter to tell if someone is hunting there...if they use a climber or do hunt on the ground. so hard to say with that kinda case..if hes there? maybe dont hunt. if hes not i'd hunt i suppose.

You scratch the bark off that Cherry tree on someones private property and it can get costly very quick...
Expensive trees....
 
Being a logger is see all manners of tree stands...
The old wood, nails in tree stands are fair game and explode when you smack them with a big Oak.(w/landowner/perm.)
 
Job I'm on right now there are 10-12 tree stands in these woods..
We are not even allowed to touch them or we will be sued...
Actually got a letter from their lawyer stating as such..
 
You should see the $2,000 Cherry butt logs ruined from nails and the rust from them..Straps that have been on the trees for years strangling them.
 
What a pain to have to work around as these trees don't always go where they are supposed to go...