Stink Bugs for bait

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2010/09/24 13:08:20 (permalink)

Stink Bugs for bait

Anyone using these rotten creatures for bait? Was talking to acquaintence and she few these to her aquarium fish. Said that they ate these stinkers like candy. Just wondereing. Have not been fishing lately due to schedule but thought that putting a small hook through one of these and floating it would be interesting. Seems like they really cannot get out of water (they seem to flail around) as I catch and flush these suckers.

Ironic thing is that my mother called me stinky and her little stinker when I was a baby (oh so many years ago!!!!).
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    Esox_Hunter
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/24 13:21:29 (permalink)
    If you find that they work, PLEASE come to my house and remove the hundreds of them covering my windows and doors.
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/24 13:35:57 (permalink)
    I have free bait available!
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/25 23:59:12 (permalink)
    can anyone rationally explain the stinkbug outbreak?
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/26 00:39:48 (permalink)
    Congress joins fight against stink bugs Farmers want broader pesticide use
    Members of Congress from Maryland, Pennsylvania and three other states under siege by the brown marmorated stink bug are asking federal authorities to allow farmers to fight back with pesticides that are not now approved for such use.

    Rallied by Maryland Republican Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, 15 members signed a letter Friday to Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson, arguing that "if we fail to take action … damage from this insect could prove to be a national crisis."

    Farmers in Maryland and other Mid-Atlantic states are reporting significant crop damage — 20 percent or more in some orchards — from the invasive Asian species.


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    The congressional letter asks the USDA to "fast-track" reclassification of the stink bug, Halyomorpha halys, from a nonregulated pest to one that is regulated. That would allow the EPA to approve the unregistered, emergency use of any pesticides found to be effective. Many existing products don't work because of the insect's feeding and over-wintering habits.

    Greg Rosenthal, spokesman for the USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, said the agency has not yet seen the letter. But, he said, the service "is convening a New Pest Advisory Group to consider the regulatory status of the pest."

    The letter also asks the USDA to fund expanded monitoring, control and eradication programs, and to work with universities and private companies to register pesticides found to be effective.

    "Time is of the essence," the bipartisan group wrote. "The goal is to marshal all available government resources to develop an effective control than can be implemented by next spring." Besides Bartlett, signers include Maryland Democratic Reps. Frank Kratovil, Steny Hoyer, and C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, as well as members from districts in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oklahoma and California.

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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/26 00:44:57 (permalink)
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, September 24, 2010
    Shaped like shields and armed with an odor, dime-size brown bugs are crawling into area homes over windowsills, through door crevices and between attic vents in such numbers that homeowners talk about drowning them in jars of soapy water, suffocating them in plastic bags or even burning them with propane torches. In the process, some people are unwittingly creating another problem: When squashed or irritated, the bugs release the distinctive smell of sweaty feet. Get used to it, experts say - the invasion is only going to get worse. "This is the vanguard," said Mike Raupp, a University of Maryland entomologist and extension specialist. "I think this is going to be biblical this year," he said. "You're going to hear a collective wail in the Washington area, up through Frederick and Allegany counties, like you've never heard before. The [bug] populations are just through the ceiling." The change in season, as days shorten and nighttime temperatures start to dip, is nature's call to the brown marmorated stink bug - pest extraordinaire - to leave its summer gorging grounds and seek refuge inside. What's happening now is a massive population shift from orchards, cornfields and gardens to suburban homes, office buildings and hotels - the urban U.S. equivalents of rocky outcroppings in the stink bug's native Asia. Stink bugs are harmless to people and their possessions. They don't bite. They don't sting. They're not known to transmit disease. But their population has grown so tremendously that they are not only causing vexation to homeowners but also, for the first time, wreaking damage to peaches and apples, soybeans and corn, and even ornamental shrubs and trees. There is no easy way to kill lots of the bugs at once.
    They have no natural predators in the United States.
    Pesticides don't work effectively.
    The insects travel easily - hitching rides on buses and construction material - and adapt to winter in homes. 
    As a result, they have flourished, spreading to 29 states since they arrived in Allentown, Pa., in 2001, likely stowaways in a shipping container from Asia. They are native to Japan, Korea and China, where they are known as "stinky big sisters." And now they are causing a stink in the mid-Atlantic region. Experts say homeowners should prevent them from coming indoors by sealing cracks and openings around doors and windows. Once the bugs are inside, residents can vacuum them up, remove the bag and put it in the garbage outside. (Beware: The smell may linger in the vacuum cleaner.) Experts warn against using outdoor pesticides. It's true: 'They smell'
    "I'm looking out my window here, and I bet I have 30 of them on the screen," said longtime Middleburg resident Margo Tate. "My husband smushes them and throws them in the trash. They're a mess. They smell when you squish them." Lori Rice, 48, runs an organic farm in Middleton, in Frederick County. She finds them indoors and outside. Indoor bugs she traps in "death jars" - pint jars containing soapy water. The soap, she said, dissolves the exoskeleton. Twice a day, she flushes the bugs down the toilet. On Rice's farm, Asian pears, raspberries and tomatoes have all suffered.
    "If all our vegetables hadn't already [been] withered by the heat and drought this year, the bugs would likely have broken our hearts there as well," she wrote in an e-mail.

    She is experimenting with spraying soapy water outside.

    For people, stink bugs are nowhere near the menace of bedbugs, which feed on human blood. Their resurgence prompted the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to issue an unusual statement last month about their public health impact.

    Stink bugs, by contrast, are a mere nuisance for people, though they are causing farmers real distress.

    Maryland's Agriculture Department last week warned that the bug is emerging as a devastating pest to orchard owners and potentially to soybean growers.

    "In Maryland this year we have had the most extensive brown marmorated stink bug damage to both tree fruit and vegetables ever reported in the U.S.," said Jerry Brust, a University of Maryland pest expert.

    Bob Black, whose 100-acre Catoctin Mountain Orchard in Thurmont, Md., includes peaches and apples, said he has lost about 20 percent of his crop. The bugs suck out juices, leaving pockmarks that make fruit and vegetables unmarketable.

    Dairy farmers are worried that cows that feed on chopped-up field corn full of dead stink bugs might develop a bad smell in their milk.

    Federal intervention?

    Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, a Republican who represents Maryland's rural 6th District, sent a letter Friday, signed by 15 members of Congress, asking U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa P. Jackson to take immediate action to limit damage caused by Halyomorpha halys.
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    Because so little is known about the insect, researchers at the U.S. Department of Agriculture and state universities in Maryland, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Virginia and New Hampshire (the bug popped up there for the first time this year) have formed the Brown Marmorated Stink Bug Working Group. Among the priorities: study the bug's basic behavior and biology, identify natural ways to control it and develop public awareness. 

    Tracy Leskey, a USDA scientist and a leader of the group, made the first positive identification of a specimen in Maryland in 2003, at a gas station in Hagerstown. She tracks them from her research station in Kearneysville, W.Va. Outside Shepherdstown, where she lives, residents have reported having thousands massing on the sides of their homes.
    "I have never seen anything like this in my career," said Leskey, 42.

    Researchers are racing against the clock to find ways to kill the stink bugs.
    At a USDA lab in Newark, Del., scientists have quarantined tiny parasitic wasps - collected from China and Korea, where they are the bugs' natural predators - to determine whether the wasps can be used against the stink bugs without harming other species here. The wasps attack the eggs of the stink bugs. That research is likely to take two more years.

    A more immediate solution may be ready for trapping them. At another USDA lab, in Beltsville, entomologist Jeff Aldrich and his colleagues found that stink bugs can be lured into traps with a chemical. The pheromone is released by a different species of stink bug native to Japan, a cousin of the dreaded bug now here. One company is developing a trap, expected to be ready by next spring, that uses the pheromone as a lure. Traps might be useful for homeowners but aren't likely to be effective in the orchards. For outdoors, Aldrich is working with another company to incorporate the compound in an existing attract-and-kill technology called Splat. It may be ready by next spring. "It's some sort of goo, and the beauty is that you can mix in the pheromones and add in the insecticide and use regular farm equipment to spray it," Aldrich said. In the meantime, homeowners are resorting to other methods. Silver Spring resident Parke Brewer used a plastic newspaper bag to trap 212 bugs one week this summer. Another Silver Spring resident, Muriel Cooper, said someone on her Stonegate neighborhood e-mail group list wrote of using a propane torch, damaging a screen door in the process. Not everyone finds the bugs disgusting. Lindsey Spindle's 2-year-old son is fascinated by them.
    They find three or four stink bugs in their Bethesda home a day.
    They are slow-moving and easy to catch.
    She uses them to explain how seasons change.
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/27 00:39:58 (permalink)
    I bet panfish would go ape over those things bouncing around on the surface of the water. There is a native strain of the bug that is the same size, so fish are probably used to eating some of them already.

    Luckily, I dont seem to have any at my house, or I would catch a bunch and try them out

    "A Homewood man led police on an hourlong car chase that ended with a crash injuring three officers.

    "The car was driving itself," Wright said. "The car has a GPS. It's a Lincoln Navigator. They drive themselves. I wasn't running nowhere."
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/27 06:44:37 (permalink)
    im thinking nothing eats stink bugs. thats why there is so many. i have never seen a bird try to eat a stink bug. same thing with the bag worms or tent worms what ever you may call them. i saw a bird pic 1 up 1 time and just drop it and fly away.
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/27 09:38:05 (permalink)
    A spray bottle with a high concentration (>70%, 90 or above is better) of isopropyl alcohol will knock them down and out and won't leave reside like Raid and is fairly safe for paint, etc. indoors. 
     
    My tomatoes definitely got hit some this year by them.
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/27 11:43:42 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: eyesandgillz

    A spray bottle with a high concentration (>70%, 90 or above is better) of isopropyl alcohol will knock them down and out and won't leave reside like Raid and is fairly safe for paint, etc. indoors. 

    My tomatoes definitely got hit some this year by them.

     
    Do you find this to be a good repelant, or more of a "hit & kill"?  I.e. have you noticed tomatoes sprayed being avoided, at least until a good rain?  Does the alchohol seem to have any negative affect on the plants sprayed? 
     
    That would kick butt if this works.  I'd imagine there are many spray bottle nozzles that would fit right onto an isopropyl bottle.  Worth a shot on the windows and door frames.  I'll put some in my death chamber for the stinky buggers that made it in so far. 
     
    Diluted isopropyl makes a good LCD screen cleaner too, use an old flannel shirt or old PJs, do not use paper towel to whipe.
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/27 16:46:55 (permalink)
    I think he is reffering to the mix as being an effective insecticide that is sprayed directly on the bugs, not as a pre-treatment.

    "A Homewood man led police on an hourlong car chase that ended with a crash injuring three officers.

    "The car was driving itself," Wright said. "The car has a GPS. It's a Lincoln Navigator. They drive themselves. I wasn't running nowhere."
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/09/28 09:12:01 (permalink)
    Yep, it evaporates so doesn't leave any residual. Not good for pre-treatment. Good for houses with kids though.
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/10/11 20:54:41 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: fruntz

    Anyone using these rotten creatures for bait? Was talking to acquaintence and she few these to her aquarium fish. Said that they ate these stinkers like candy. Just wondereing. Have not been fishing lately due to schedule but thought that putting a small hook through one of these and floating it would be interesting. Seems like they really cannot get out of water (they seem to flail around) as I catch and flush these suckers.

    Ironic thing is that my mother called me stinky and her little stinker when I was a baby (oh so many years ago!!!!).

    I threw one in the toilet and couldn't believe what I saw . It swam to the edge of the bowel , crawled down the side under water , made its' way down the opening for the drain  & came back up out of the outflow pipe . I watched it for 3 minutes and it was underwater the whole time ! Then it made its' way to the edge and started to crawl up the bowel wall out of water at this point . I had enough by that point , boiled some water and killed it . Tenacious little guys .
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    RE: Stink Bugs for bait 2010/10/12 08:00:44 (permalink)
    Little wonder they stink!
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