LoganWade03
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/15 19:55:04
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lol I just asked a question..
I own a boat as well my friend, watch the assumptions...I however do not feel the need to take to cost of gas out on every legal fish I catch. But hey if that's how you want to justify it, fine with me. Good luck with the pbt's, sell the boat and eat something other than fish every dinner...
The moment of truth. Where all other things unconsciously melt away from our minds the instant a fish takes our fly. We stand there on the water with wide eyes, caught in a battle stance with an idea of confidence and hope
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Riverbum
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/15 23:01:19
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Catch and release is the only way to go to preserve the these chrome bullets. If we don't, they will go the way of the coho. Remember, a foul hooked fish is illegal to keep and should be released.
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heyiknowyou
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 00:51:18
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...but i paid for them 
go back to spain 11-12-11: the last time i got punched in the face
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 00:58:29
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ORIGINAL: Riverbum
Catch and release is the only way to go to preserve the these chrome bullets. If we don't, they will go the way of the coho. Remember, a foul hooked fish is illegal to keep and should be released.
Uhm, I see your point. And I release most of mine. But we only got one run out of coho. Then they die. Steelhead live up to six years and we can get a couple of runs out of them.
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 03:29:49
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Okey doky! So here's another take on the C&R argument. How about C&R north of Rt 5? Except at Trout run and Godfrey Run? That way more fish will spread out along the creeks and provide more fishing opportunities? If it was all C&R there would be quite a few die off due to stress; so that is an unviable option. However if more fish made it upstream then there MIGHT be a chance for more natural reproduction. (It really does happen) I am usually a C&R fisherman but I have been known to take 1 or two per year for smoking. The entire case for total C&R is brought on by seeing so many 'roped' at the projects on Walnut by people who come back 3-4 times a day. Since I rarely get to Erie and I see it every time I go up, I imagine it is a big problem.
Of course if I had my 'druthers' I'd like to see Walnut from rt 5 to the lake made C&R and the projects reserved for elderly, kids and handicapped. I'd also like to have part of the wall set up for wheelchair bound fishermen. But even there the enforcement angle is unworkable.
I would love to see a section of the wall set up for handicapped fisherman/kids. My grandfather has had quite a few health problems lately, and doesn't get around very well. A 75' walk on level ground is about the most he can do without a good rest. When i was younger he has always taken me fishing, and i especially enjoyed going to Erie for steelhead in the fall. Two summers ago he had broke his hip and has recently been in the hospital with conjestive heart failure, but doing much better now considering his condition. I would love to get him up there and cast a line with him. Unfortunately the one area with access for him is either impossible to find a spot fish or just completely unenjoyable.
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 05:48:35
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ORIGINAL: Riverbum
Catch and release is the only way to go to preserve the these chrome bullets. If we don't, they will go the way of the coho. Remember, a foul hooked fish is illegal to keep and should be released.
How do you figure? The coho "went by the way" because the PFBC decided to curtail raising/ stocking them. PA steelhead all start their life in the hatchery. Our streams have never supported any measurable natural reproduction. The number of steelhead runnning has more to do with the number being stocked, than any other factor. True, C&R can contribute to some larger fish returning the following year, but it ain't helping with natural reproduction. If you want to make sure that steelies don't "go by the wayside", consider donating to some of the non- profits that support the fishery, as well as just being a courteous sportsman, and leaving the streams cleaner than we found them.
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 06:35:00
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Some folks just DON'T get it
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 06:47:48
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The clowns who complain about the taste of Steelhead are simply those who might as well go and buy a chicken! Fish should taste like fish.
Walleye etc taste bland to me....
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 07:18:04
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Oh heck yeah, I love the taste of musty old good year tires with a hint of fish. MMM-MMMM Good!
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 07:18:32
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Lets hope you don't have the same attitude toward wild trout streams in the interior of the state.
Catch and release gives the most number of anglers an opportunity to catch a steelhead. Like Larry said it has nothing to do about size and numbers, thats determined in the lake. But there is more to trout fishing than putting a fish on a stringer. Those who don't realize that are missing a lot in life.
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 07:18:53
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Call me a clown I guess. Just sayin.
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 07:27:32
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ORIGINAL: KilDux
Call me a clown I guess. Just sayin.
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 07:36:08
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I don't always snag fish, but when I do... I choose Little Cleos I'm the best looking smartest snagging poacher alive...
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 07:39:56
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Oh good lord, Slick. That one is screaming for a little help from bulldog.
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 09:22:23
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Oh good lord, Slick. That one is screaming for a little help from bulldog.
go back to spain 11-12-11: the last time i got punched in the face
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 09:37:45
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ORIGINAL: Riverbum
Catch and release is the only way to go to preserve the these chrome bullets. If we don't, they will go the way of the coho. Remember, a foul hooked fish is illegal to keep and should be released.
the PFBC preserves these chrome bullets by dumping 1 million juvenile stockies in each year...so keeping one or two for the smoker isnt a sin
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psu_fish
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 09:41:20
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Lets hope you don't have the same attitude toward wild trout streams in the interior of the state.
Catch and release gives the most number of anglers an opportunity to catch a steelhead. Like Larry said it has nothing to do about size and numbers, thats determined in the lake. But there is more to trout fishing than putting a fish on a stringer. Those who don't realize that are missing a lot in life.
using that logic we should all throw back Walleyes and Perch out on the big lake for more anglers to have opportunities the love of trout never ceases to amaze me
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ShutUpNFish
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 09:55:38
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the love of trout never ceases to amaze me Thank God they don't have "female parts" or fish-porn would take up a whole new meaning! Just sayin'
post edited by ShutUpNFish - 2010/09/16 09:57:45
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Wild John
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 10:16:25
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the PFBC preserves these chrome bullets by dumping 1 million juvenile stockies in each year...so keeping one or two for the smoker isnt a sin
I'll go that 1 further- I suggest that PAFBC is over-stocking the Erie tribs to the point that it eliminates any chance (OK, almost any) of repro. These fish compete for redds- it's genetic. In the Erie tribs, where viable spawing grounds are almost nil, you have too many fish competing for too few redds. They waste energy, and eventually abandon spawning because it's too **** hard. The streams that do support repro in any measurable numbers have a small fraction of the numbers of fish (per acre) that Elk and Walnut have-that's a fact, including in their natural habitat. I have killed 1 fish in 10 years, I just don't care for them, but my actions have not made one difference in the population of fish in the PA tribs. That is solely controlled by PAFBC. So "rope'em and smoke'em" if that's what you're into, just don't kick them back or chuck them over your shoulder or "gill-blast" them for your "grip 'n grin" shot- that's just disrespectful. PS- Slick- We have a winner!!! 
post edited by Wild John - 2010/09/16 10:23:51
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 10:40:03
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ORIGINAL: Cold
woo kares dUUd/
Me. An datz enuf fer me dUUd! 
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 10:43:31
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C&R for stream anglers as opposed to lake boats? Because the fish coming into the streams are there to spawn. The 3 fish limit is fine. The problem is the anglers who abuse that limit by keeping foul hooked fish and making multiple daily runs to the streams. We need to be better stewards to keep our tribs a world-class fishery.
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psu_fish
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 11:51:02
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C&R for stream anglers as opposed to lake boats? Because the fish coming into the streams are there to spawn. The 3 fish limit is fine. The problem is the anglers who abuse that limit by keeping foul hooked fish and making multiple daily runs to the streams. We need to be better stewards to keep our tribs a world-class fishery.
Please link the spawning sucess rate of steelhead on slate bottom creeks in Erie County....my guess is you wont find much Increased stewardship is needed, and other fisherman need to police the ranks... but its not like these fish are producing wild steel
post edited by psu_fish - 2010/09/16 11:54:54
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 15:57:37
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I think the best solution is to outlaw fishing from boats.
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ShutUpNFish
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 16:09:59
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Saw this guy fishin' the wall this morning...he was catchin' 'em on pieces of his head!! This was the look he gave when a boat was coming out of the marina. 
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 16:26:15
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I've asked you repeatedly not to post pics of me. For the record...head chunks work.
I don't always snag fish, but when I do... I choose Little Cleos I'm the best looking smartest snagging poacher alive...
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 16:33:05
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Guys those yinzbuckets on the wall were not saying "brain" they were saying "skane". Muperes can't talk too good. 
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RE: should we strive for catch & release fishing?
2010/09/16 16:48:02
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more fish in the streams = more opportunities to catch fish = more anglers = more $$$ to the local economy
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