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2010/09/11 16:36:35 (permalink)

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New guy here. I am glad to find a site that has people enthusiastic about the fishery around the salmon river. I moved here from Oregon not too long ago and am wanting to get at this east coast fishery. Its not going to be the same as what I left but I know I will need a salmon/steelhead fix this year not being back in Oregon. Quick question for the seasoned guys, I am used to side drifting or bobbering for salmon/steelhead, in fact that is what I do exclusively. I run mostly yarn eggs, normal colors, about the size of a dime or slightly larger. I was wondering if this is a normal tactic around here for salmon. I am thinking of making a trip up there soon, hitting a couple of other streams also, and I want to tie up some patterns before I go. If anyone has any ideas for an east coast newbie I would surely appreciate it. THanks
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    emal7717
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/11 19:06:55 (permalink)
    Having fished in the Pac-west and the great lakes...down size! Most of the patterns work. Send me a message and I will give you my email address so I can send you pictures of whay you should be thinking in size
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/11 22:17:44 (permalink)
    What is side drifting?
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/12 13:16:14 (permalink)
    What is the shortest distance between two points?   :)
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/12 13:34:43 (permalink)
    Drake.....a straight line.....how did I do?
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/12 13:50:17 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bucktailer

    New guy here. I am glad to find a site that has people enthusiastic about the fishery around the salmon river. I moved here from Oregon not too long ago and am wanting to get at this east coast fishery. Its not going to be the same as what I left but I know I will need a salmon/steelhead fix this year not being back in Oregon. Quick question for the seasoned guys, I am used to side drifting or bobbering for salmon/steelhead, in fact that is what I do exclusively. I run mostly yarn eggs, normal colors, about the size of a dime or slightly larger. I was wondering if this is a normal tactic around here for salmon. I am thinking of making a trip up there soon, hitting a couple of other streams also, and I want to tie up some patterns before I go. If anyone has any ideas for an east coast newbie I would surely appreciate it. THanks


    Side drifting would work on the bigger waters like the Muskegon, and manistee in michigan. Ust the more brighter salmon irons in size 2 / Low water tie, 4, 6 and 8.

    Cleo's and castmasters work good in Orange/gold Orange/silver Blue/silver Green/silver, but remove the treble hook to be legal and replace it with a size 2 2x strong straight shank hook.
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/12 14:15:19 (permalink)
    Pa - I'd say you are correct if it involves a bank angler, wader or a boat anchored up in a stationary position 
     
    I think the OP is referring to the practice of fishing from a boat and casting multiple lines downstream at a 45 deg angle and then controlling the speed of the boat which in turn controls the drift of their rigs. Not too far removed from backtrolling plugs.
     
     It would be a pretty tough venture during Salmon Season in NY without PO'ng a bunch of other people that would be fighting for real estate during the height of the runs.
     
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/12 15:43:56 (permalink)
    I also looked at the Google Earth of the Black River in NY and you can use Side Drifting there below the dam, but I dont know if you can use plugs.
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/12 16:42:48 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info. Side drifting is generally done out of a boat. The drift and the boat are the same so in essence you are traveling the same speed as your bait ( usually bobber and bait). Not a technique used over here alot because of the conditions.
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/12 16:58:24 (permalink)
    This technique is done on the river during steelhead season, mostley center pinn and float. Never seen it done during salmon season although I did see a guy center pinn fishing on friday, first time Ive seen anyone do this for salmon.
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/12 17:31:13 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bucktailer

    Thanks for the info. Side drifting is generally done out of a boat. The drift and the boat are the same so in essence you are traveling the same speed as your bait ( usually bobber and bait). Not a technique used over here alot because of the conditions.


    Ive seen it done with a planer board by people on shore. You can do drop back method and cover an entire hole from one spot. Works better on Big water, not creeks like the salmon
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/12 17:56:35 (permalink)
    Seen the planer board thing done in the oswego, opposite side of the locks by the island down low. guy had one rod on the planer and was casting another.
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/14 18:56:16 (permalink)
    New Guy, Check out the Black River, about a hour north of Pulaski. Its similar to many western streams. Im going to try it this weekend and see whats happening there.
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    RE: New guy 2010/09/15 10:07:24 (permalink)
    Thanks emal. Let us know how you do
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