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Brown Trout
If i recall correctly this time last year weren't the yearling brown trout at the mouth of Walnut? Haven't seen anything on it yet. I know it was a controversial subject last year.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 12:29:54
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as far as i know those were stocked fish put in by a private club thats hatchery had some kind of problem.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 12:38:51
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No, it is part of a co-operative effort between the PF&BC, and local clubs to establish a lake run/near shore Brown fishery. Projected numbers if I recall, of between 100,000-140,000 per year.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 12:45:50
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100,000-140,000 too many...unless they drop the # of steel stocking and we know they AIN'T happenin' Just Sayin'
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 13:22:35
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Shut,
They are going to be more of a nearshore, summer catch for boat anglers. Also, in speaking to Chuck Murray they appear to feed quite heavily on Gobies. This combined with their tendency to frequent the same waters, could benefit the Smallmouth Bass population. I think they are going to be a great addition. Personally, I think we could/should significantly reduce Steelhead stocking, with, or without the addition of the Browns. However that would go over about as well as HR/AR has for the PGC.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 13:24:06
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Brown Trout The scourge of the earth.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 13:27:01
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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker
Shut,
They are going to be more of a nearshore, summer catch for boat anglers. Also, in speaking to Chuck Murray they appear to feed quite heavily on Gobies. This combined with their tendency to frequent the same waters, could benefit the Smallmouth Bass population. I think they are going to be a great addition. Personally, I think we could/should significantly reduce Steelhead stocking, with, or without the addition of the Browns. However that would go over about as well as HR/AR has for the PGC.
Agreed.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 15:09:41
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The brown trout stocking is going to be concurrent with the number of coho no longer being stocked. The salmon had a tendency to run to tribs in other states and Canada. We were paying to send fish to other places, so that went by the wayside.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 15:40:00
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I for one would rather see more browns stocked even if it did mean a reduction in steelhead. Should I duck now? 
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 15:58:13
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They are going to be more of a nearshore, summer catch for boat anglers. Just curious, but does anyone know why the browns in Erie won't be running up the tributaries like they do in NY? I mean I'm sure a few will enter the tribs, but it sounds like the majority will stay out in the lake. Sandy Creek and several other Ontario tribs outside of Oak Orchards get large runs of big brown trout every year. Someone else on this site last year was saying that the PFBC tried to stock browns in the Erie tribs before, but they just didn't return to spawn. Is it because of the genetics of the browns being stalked or something?
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 16:00:16
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ORIGINAL: RhnstnCowboy
Brown Trout
The scourge of the earth.
there just dumb fish
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 16:05:02
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More ARE being stocked, without a reduction in Steelhead stocking. This is being accomplished through co-operation with 3CU, and the Wessleyville(sp) Conservation Club.
Anyone that would like to learn more about the Steelhead, and Brown stocking prpgrams will have two excellent opportunities next mont. Chuck Murray ( PF&BC fisheries biologist for Erie ) will be speaking at both the PSA Big Run banguet on Oct. 2, 2010, and at the Adventuremen Steelhead seminar on saturday Oct. 9, 2010, at the South Hills Assembly church in Bethel park.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 16:20:03
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ORIGINAL: SteelSlayer77
They are going to be more of a nearshore, summer catch for boat anglers.
Just curious, but does anyone know why the browns in Erie won't be running up the tributaries like they do in NY? I mean I'm sure a few will enter the tribs, but it sounds like the majority will stay out in the lake.
Sandy Creek and several other Ontario tribs outside of Oak Orchards get large runs of big brown trout every year. Someone else on this site last year was saying that the PFBC tried to stock browns in the Erie tribs before, but they just didn't return to spawn. Is it because of the genetics of the browns being stalked or something?
I'm pretty sure they follow the salmon up river to feast on one of their favorite things....eggs over easy! My feeling is that some will run the streams up to route five though also bringing a lot of the folk who head all the way to NY for them (and their eggs). The combination of PA brown stocking and NY license increase will make for even more company on the Erie tribs in the years to come. Just Sayin'
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 16:58:21
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Slayer,
I'm not saying they won't run the streams, they will. In how big of numbers, is yet to be seen. My point was, that the intent was to create a near shore lake fisherie. The browns are bottom structure oriented, and will tend to remain close to shore during the summer. Rather than sprading out in the deeper waters, as the Steelhead do. One of the reasons for poor recruitment in the previous attempt, was believed to be a lack of food source in Pa's shoreline waters. The presence (abundance) of the Round Gobie, is hoped to be the difference. I also believe they are stocking a different strain, as well.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 19:49:24
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ORIGINAL: Flying Fish
If i recall correctly this time last year weren't the yearling brown trout at the mouth of Walnut? Haven't seen anything on it yet. I know it was a controversial subject last year.
as mentioned, they were the Browns that were initially stocked that didn't head out to the lake. i reckon there'll be some returning this season in the 2-4 pound class. It won't be til next season when we start seeing full size mature Browns ..."IF" my understanding is correct ..L.T.A.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 20:03:38
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Slayer,
I'm not saying they won't run the streams, they will. In how big of numbers, is yet to be seen. My point was, that the intent was to create a near shore lake fisherie. The browns are bottom structure oriented, and will tend to remain close to shore during the summer. Rather than sprading out in the deeper waters, as the Steelhead do. One of the reasons for poor recruitment in the previous attempt, was believed to be a lack of food source in Pa's shoreline waters. The presence (abundance) of the Round Gobie, is hoped to be the difference. I also believe they are stocking a different strain, as well.
what would "near shore" be? just askin'
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/10 23:46:00
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ok thanks for enlightening me it was just my understanding from other people that the browns were put in because of a hatchery problem thanks guys.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/11 07:12:21
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It was getting old driving over to NY to zip the browns for there eggs. Now I can just jump one state into PA to do all my zipping.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/11 08:59:42
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I thought all the stocked browns were caught already?
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/11 10:38:37
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post edited by cbeagler - 2010/09/11 10:40:15
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/12 09:37:09
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ORIGINAL: RhnstnCowboy
Brown Trout
The scourge of the earth.
Just curious but, how come you dislike brown trout so much?
I don't give a crap if anybody listens to me or not.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/12 11:19:56
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Brown Trout-YES ------Cleveland Browns-NO
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/12 11:57:53
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Please educate me. What is the fascination with brown trout eggs? I've been hearing that for years they are the most valued spawn, especially among pinners. How did they reach legendary status?
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/12 12:12:27
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because poor richards sells them and they're cheap and they catch fish = legendary. deal with it. 
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/12 12:13:38
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Please educate me. What is the fascination with brown trout eggs? I've been hearing that for years they are the most valued spawn, especially among pinners. How did they reach legendary status?
just a wild guess....but apparently cuase steelies love 'em ..L.T.A.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/12 12:21:47
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true dat! just sayin'..........
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/13 08:44:39
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Just curious but, how come you dislike brown trout so much? How much time do you have?
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/13 08:57:33
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Please educate me. What is the fascination with brown trout eggs? I've been hearing that for years they are the most valued spawn, especially among pinners. How did they reach legendary status?
By outfishing most other bait... 
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/13 19:43:37
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Thanks to the folks who have a great grasp of the obvious. What I meant was, what do you think is the big attraction. Is it the size of the eggs? Natural color? Side by side, tied in the same size bags, cured the same, would brown trout eggs actually out-fish salmon eggs? Or is it just a general mystique about them that has perpetuated over time? I dunno. I don't use spawn. If you guys say there's no comparison, then can't argue with that.
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RE: Brown Trout
2010/09/13 21:53:28
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Brown trout eggs are steelhead candy.
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