SonofZ3
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Full Sinking Line
So after 13 years of fly fishing with floating WF and DT lines I purchased a full sinking line. My thinking was I could avoid the annoying casting issues associated with a weighted nymph and 3 or 4 split shot by tying up some short (3 foot) leaders and fishing the full sinking line. I don't indicator nymph, so thats not an issue. I also like fishing unweighted streamers, and a full sinking line with a short leader seemed like a great way to get my streamer where I want without lots of split shot or a heavily weighted fly. Any tips/issues/advice for fishing a full sinking line? Does the short leader and no split shot make sense to you guys too? Thanks for your input.
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/01 10:44:27
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...My thinking was I could avoid the annoying casting issues associated with a weighted nymph and 3 or 4 split shot by tying up some short (3 foot) leaders and fishing the full sinking line... you didn't take into account the drag and inability to mend with a sink line i would not nymph with a sink line ... it is better suited for streamers and swinging
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/01 11:03:47
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I agree. Without being able to mend, you won't get a good drift with nymphs. You'll like the sinking line for swinging in the right conditions.
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/01 11:06:51
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ORIGINAL: thedrake I agree. Without being able to mend, you won't get a good drift with nymphs. You'll like the sinking line for swinging in the right conditions. What do you know about flylines?
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/01 11:20:29
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ORIGINAL: DarDys ORIGINAL: thedrake I agree. Without being able to mend, you won't get a good drift with nymphs. You'll like the sinking line for swinging in the right conditions. What do you know about flylines? I only know what my company tells me.
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KJH807
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/01 11:23:27
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i can product test a 10 Int or sink...
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/01 14:29:33
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ORIGINAL: KJH807 i can product test a 10 Int or sink... Kevin, You don't need an intermediate or sinking 10. Just add some water gremlins to a floater.
post edited by thedrake - 2010/09/01 14:31:16
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KJH807
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/01 14:46:49
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i have a bunch of that roll on tug. putty... if i uniformly apply about 30 containers over 90' feet of backing... i think i will have a pretty sweet rig (this is my sink tip backing application that you all laughed at) or i can just strip the plastic plastic off a 100' extension cord and start flailing
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/01 16:13:14
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Do you have a certain taper that you form the putty into? or do you like a level putty backing line? Do tell.
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SonofZ3
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/02 16:24:15
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Thanks for the input guys. Now I need to be a new spool or another reel for the sinking line. Darn...
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SonofZ3
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/23 12:49:55
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/23 13:24:50
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fancy reel... did you attach the sink right to a 5wt line? or to running line? what did you do for connections?
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/23 13:35:41
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I use sink tips all the time and have found depending the rod you are using you can cast way heavier tip then most people thing. I use 300 grain tips 30ft long on my 7wts. All you have to do is only put out as much of the tip that loads your rod. the rest will come out on the release. One back cast is all you need.
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SonofZ3
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/23 15:07:54
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I bought a 300 grain full sinking line. One of the Orvis wonderline sinking models (This line, in 300 grains http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94HA&dir_id=758&group_id=10657&cat_id=5402&subcat_id=6010). 30 foot shooting head with intermediate running line behind it. I clipped 12 feet off and made 2 sink tips from that, planning on using them on the light rods looped onto their prospective lines. I now have an 18 foot shooting head instead of 30. only connections are backing to spool and nail knot from backing to line. If its still a little too heavy I'll clip more off. If I took too much off I still have what I had clipped so it can be looped back on just in case. edit: grammar.
post edited by SonofZ3 - 2010/09/23 15:12:51
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/23 18:02:50
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i held that same reel yesterday,Int.Angler? Let me know how you like it.Looking into another for the switch rod.good choice on shortening it.
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/23 19:05:40
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I have a couple of other reels from Dutch as well, they have really smooth drag systems, and being designed by Ari T Hart, they're works of art. I have absolutely ZERO complaints about my other reels, and I recommend them heartily. The only downside, if you want to see it as a downside, is their weight. However, this isn't really a big drawback for a reel on a switch or spey rod. I have a Dutch 3 on a switch rod, and it balances it out nicely. I fish a Dutch 2 off a 9 foot 5 weight and it balances perfectly as well. I think the drag system on the regular dutch reels have a wider range than the LA's, that is, I can adjust it to be much heavier (not that I would ever need to). When I bought that LA they were on sale too, so it was good buy. Also, like my sign. says, its always good to support your local fly shop!
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/23 19:36:52
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Thanks,i support them quite nicely.How muck does the 3 weigh? mine is 7.5oz and balances a 7wt.St.Croix & Beulah 8wt.both 11' to perfection?
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SonofZ3
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RE: Full Sinking Line
2010/09/23 22:01:46
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A Dutch 3LA is 10.3 oz. A 2LA is 7.9 oz. A Regular Dutch 2 reel is 6.3 oz, a Dutch 3 is 8.4 Specs here: http://www.dutchreels.com/index1.php?en A Dutch 3 will hold a Rio Windcutter 5/6 Spey and close to 300 yards of 20lb backing. My Dutch 2 Large Arbor has the sinking line, 100 yards 30lb backing and 100 yards 20lb, (30lb loaded on at the fly shop, but I wanted to fill up the spool more so I added some at home, and I only had 20lb) My Dutch 2 has a DT5 and a hundred yards of 20lb.
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