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2010/07/15 00:18:56 (permalink)

Steelhead Fly Setups

Well it's creeping around to that time of year again and I am looking to get a fly rod for steelies and was wondering what I should get.

I am currently liking the Echo Ion/Cabelas RLS combo offered by cabelas in 7wt but I am open to suggestions of others being that I have spent the last dozen years spin flying with my st croix avid 9 footer.

I have also looked at the TFO pro series 9'7wt and an Orvis Clearwater II in similar stats. What is everyone else using these days?
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    moooooo4me
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 00:22:29 (permalink)
    9' 8wt lefty kreh and a caddis creek reel
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 08:02:36 (permalink)
    Two custom built rods made by members ofthis board and a Ross reel. Plus I have a St.Croix combo that I got from fish USA. Each has it's own niche in my arsenal. But as a beginner I would recommend that you get an inexpensive set-up to begin with and then move up he 'food chain' as you decide what you like. Call he guys at fish usA and see what they recommend.

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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 08:49:59 (permalink)
    what ever you get , I would make sure its a 10 footer. Just my opinion. I got a new 10ft 7wt this spring. Maybe I wont break as many off this year with that extra foot of "shock absorber".
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 09:03:37 (permalink)
    I have two Cabelas models I use all the time. Both outfits were right around $100 each and came with everything: reel,line backing etc..I've caught hundreds of steelies on these and they will work just fine for the $. The rod and reel dont make the fisherman, its the ability to properly present your offering in a manner the fish will respond too. Good equipment helps,you usually get what you pay for,  but mid range equipment is all thats necessary if you can fish well.
    Just my $.02  
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 09:43:17 (permalink)
    I have a 10' 7 wt Orvis Clearwater, and it's heavy as heck.  I don't like it.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 09:50:48 (permalink)
    Cortland CL 8'6". Redington RS7
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 10:10:28 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: D-nymph

    I have a 10' 7 wt Orvis Clearwater, and it's heavy as heck.  I don't like it.


    I just sold mine. Decent rod for the scratch, but you are right that it is a heavy rod. I would be willing to bet that rod weighed about the same as my 11' 7wt switch.

    To answer the question, I use a Batson custom 11' 7wt for high flows or bigger water and I have a 9'7wt cheap Redington or 9'9" 5wt Cabelas LST that I use for the skinny water.

    Keep an eye out for discontinued rods, you can get some quality rods for dirt cheap that will still carry a warranty.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 14:07:40 (permalink)
    I have a 9'  6w Sage Launch matched up to an Orvis Battenkill III large arbor...
    Would probably get the 7w if I were to fish in the crowds much..
    I don't break off many fish with this set up and feel the 9' rod is long enough for the Erie tribs..
    But what do I know I'm still a NOOB.....

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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 16:09:42 (permalink)
    10'6" Beulah 4/5 switch rod with a lamson konic. Looking into getting a Winston B2X  9'6" 6 weight with the sage carbon fiber reel.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 20:45:32 (permalink)
    Behrend,
         Don't be sucked in by the big money aspect.  I fished for about 12 years with an old 8'6" ugly stick in 7 wt with an automatic reel.   And I caught a **** load of fish with it.

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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/15 20:52:31 (permalink)
    Im not looking for anything too high end, but on the other hand if I go too cheap I will just find myself using my nicer spinning setups instead.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 08:54:23 (permalink)
    i use a eagle claw blackeagle 7 wt and cabellas 3 forks reel and it works just great and did not set me back a lot of green either.about 60 bucks lock stock and barrel. might be cheap but it works.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 10:52:58 (permalink)
    Let's face it.  Steelhead fishing in Erie is NOT the most technical fishing in the world.  Expensive equipment is not needed.  Now if you were planning to also go to Maine for atlantics, or alaska, or up to the Maritimes in Canada then expensive equipment (and the ability to make the long graceful casts) would be an advantage.  But here in Erie my opinion is it's almost a waste of money.  I have some good stuff, and I have some really good stuff but I really think you could catch a steelhead with an 8' 2x2 stick and a  10 foot length of 20# mono.  I might even try that some time. But I will concede that better equipment does sometimes make it easier.

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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 11:49:12 (permalink)
    9' 6" mid flex clearwater rod.
    too stiff of a tip or rod and you'll break off more often if you're not ready for a steelies quick surge.
     

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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 11:59:53 (permalink)
    Too cheap of a reel though without a good drag will get you more break offs when they try and take you into the backing.....

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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 12:09:44 (permalink)
    The one I use most is a 10' 7wt legend ultra with a nautilus 7+ reel.

    I like the rod, and love the reel.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 12:41:34 (permalink)
    I agree. I'm sold on Lamson reels, the drag is flawless.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 12:55:40 (permalink)
    Im leaning towards this TFO/RLS combo in either the 9 or 10 foot 7wt. As much as I would like to pick the rod and reel seperately, I can't really beat the savings with buying a combo.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 13:06:23 (permalink)
    I have not fished much for Steelhead but I use a Reddington 9ft 8wt. Enjoyed cathcing them on it. My son uses a 9ft 7wt LL Bean combo, it was around $80.00. It works great when he puts the reel on currectly.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 13:29:52 (permalink)
    9'6" 7wt. St. C Avid/Ross CLA 4/Rio Gold 7 wt./Rio Fluoroflex+Maxima
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 16:56:09 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: BehrendFisher

    Im leaning towards this TFO/RLS combo in either the 9 or 10 foot 7wt. As much as I would like to pick the rod and reel seperately, I can't really beat the savings with buying a combo.


    That combo comes with the SA mastery series line. I use the clear tip.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 20:17:16 (permalink)
    the 10' TFO are very heavy if you are going to put in a full day with it
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/16 20:47:09 (permalink)
    Dave, you should spend a day with that 7 wt I made in bamboo.  If the fish were close to the surface I could use it as a harpoon.  Boo is nice but never as light as other materials.

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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/17 08:20:20 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: BehrendFisher

    Im leaning towards this TFO/RLS combo in either the 9 or 10 foot 7wt. As much as I would like to pick the rod and reel seperately, I can't really beat the savings with buying a combo.



    Sounds like you have made a good choice.  Unless you fish the small streams a lot, I would go with the 10'.  Helps keep more line off the water.  Agreed the TFO's are a bit heavy, but they make a decent rod for the money.  My experience with their warranty system has been excellent.  I snapped the tip section of one in October.  They told me they were very busy due to the time of year.  Had the replacement section back in 6 days!
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/17 17:50:46 (permalink)
    Now if I could just get someone to show me how to use it before the one fly... ;-)
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/17 19:16:33 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: BehrendFisher

    Now if I could just get someone to show me how to use it before the one fly... ;-)


    Don't worry about casting. Just get way upstream of everyone else and then drift the current right in front of them. You will know that you are doing it right when the people on the banks start to cheer for you. Many of the Erie angler speak a local dialect that harkens back to the days of the Eriez Indians. Do not worry if it sounds aggressive or if you seem to recognize some of the words, similarity in language is common--it is just their way of showing great and enthusiastic encouragement The proper way of showing your appreciation for their encouragement is to place you thumb on your nose and wiggle your fingers. At this, they may get so excited that they run toward you to embrace you. Do not run. Just hold your hands slightly in front of you, palms up and use this phrase, "Oyah, Bringiton."
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/17 19:20:28 (permalink)
    Seriously though, let me know with a PM when you get your rig. I have a big back yard and I am close to the creek. I am by no means the best caster on the board, but I have been doing it for a while.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/18 11:10:41 (permalink)
    great post and description cbeagler that really made me laugh. i have seen it occasionally on the creeks and it was funny to hear it described.
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    RE: Steelhead Fly Setups 2010/07/18 12:24:09 (permalink)
    BFisher
     
    ........when I started for steel I was using my trout rod--  St. Croix Imperial 5/6 wt with an Orvis reel.....then I moved to a St. Croix Avid 9.5 feet 7 wt ( great Erie Trib Rod) with a Fly Logic FLP 567 reel---fished this rig for many years (and purchased 2 other exact rods because one was stolen and was lost--fell out of the back of my truck)  ----  then I fished a 9 foot 8 wt GL3 rod with FLP 567 reel  ---  then a winston 11 foot 7 wt switch rod (got it used on Ebay) matched with a FLO 789 reel  ---   now, I got hurt at work and sold most of my gear......I will be fishing with a beautiful rod --  Scierra CTC 9 foot 3 inch 7/8 wt---matched with an Okuma Airstream reel----my other option is my St. Croix 5/6 imperial that I still own and fish (12 years old) and that has a Okuma Airstream reel reel on it-----now, will I catch less fish......probably not.........I don't have as much confidence in the Okuma reel as I do the Fly Logic reel, but I know that the Okuma Airstream reel (35 bucks) has handled salmon up to 30 pounds without issue and will handle anythig the steel can throw at it !!!!    I also have a brand new OLD STOCK Scientific Anglers 9 foot  6 wt rod that is awesome (2nd one I've owned)---it is older with a metal reel seat......the blank is blue with silver trim.....beautiful rod--and perfect for throwing poppers or fishing for the steel........
     
    as most here have said.........don't get caught up in the COST of your gear..........get the best you can afford and you will be happy.........just because some Duud is sporting an 800 dollar fly rod with an 800 dollar reel does not instantly make him a fishing legend.......and it certainly does not mean he is a good fisherman, just means he has some extra cash or found a great deal..............
     
    just make sure you get a quality reel.......but on Erie tribs, the fish isn't going to run that far...... you just want him to run as SMOOTHLY as he can away from you

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